ST Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) In Episode IX

Luke will have one scene with Leia in the end.
He's guiding Rey in TROS and haunting Kylo Ren.

 

I think the only scene we will get of Luke and Leia will be in the rumored flashback.

 

If that happens ROS will make TLJ's firestorm fade into insignificance.

 

Yeah. What’s interesting is that it seems like many here think Palpatine might have more than a scene or two. And that’s despite the title, thought we still are unsure if it means Luke or not. I hope despite the OT references in the teaser, if Luke or Palpy or both are Batsu in it, there won’t be a negative reaction. Quality and appropriateness are what’s important here.


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Well, I thought people would be upset that Luke, Han and Leia were never reunited but I've been told over and over I just wanted fan service and it's better this way that they weren't and worse. I think the only thing that will set off this fandom is whether there is Reylo. Whichever way it goes, that will set one faction or another off.

 

I think the difference this time is its been far more overt. They had McDarmuid turn up on stage, his Imperial cackle is in the trailer, they call the movie the Rise of Skywalker.

They can't do all that, set the entire internet buzzing then do something contrary in the film and go: Hey, just 'cause you were expectin' it..... without a massive backlash. They can do it, of course they can, but I can't see it going down well.

(And yes, Luke, Han and Leia reunion on screen is one of the biggest missed opportunities of the ST.)

 

The only way that will happen is if that scene exists from deleted TFA footage, that was a rumour that was never debunked. May be it will one day be released along with other rumoured scenes like Vader and Luke fighting on Cloud City and Han, Leia and young Ben being sent away.

 

Wasn't the rumor that Carries daughter was playing Leia in a flashback, presumably CGI altered to look like a younger Carrie. and someone else was playing a young Luke?

 

Pretty sure it's Hamill in the flashback, but guess a body double may be part of the picture. Mark's face digitized onto his or something. Seems there's different ways about going about the de-ageing thing, different teams approach it their own ways.

 

Daisy Ridley says she was surprised by the title. This says to me she's not a Skywalker, and there will be no Skywalker Jedi.

All the title likely refers to is Kylo's return to Ben at some point, to the light side of the Force. Luke will have something to do with this, in relation to Rey or Ben. And that's all.

 

I think it's more likely that the title references a spoiler and that's why she was surprised... Why would she be surprised about the title just because Rey isn't a Skywalker when there are at least 2 other Skywalkers in the story?

 

I don't see why she would be surprised over the title if it was a spoiler. and why would she also need the meaning explained to her by Abrams?

 

Because JJ "Mystery Box" Abrams hates spoilers and is in fact known for doing just about everything possible to keep them locked down. Also, Daisy is quite good at redirecting during interviews so it's hard to say what she actually meant by that comment. I'm just saying that the title shouldn't be a surprise to anyone just because Rey isn't a Skywalker.

 

As I've said before I think it's because she's thinking, "I can't believe JJ, who is so secretive, would give the movie a name that gives it away that Rey is Luke's kid."

If Daisy needed JJ to explain the title to her it was maybe not because she didn't understand the meaning of the title but rather that she wanted JJ to clarify why he'd take a huge risk in spoiling Rey's Skywalker parentage.

 

I think she, and John Boyega, were surprised at the title because it has little to do with the movie. It's probably the equivalent marketing clickbait when all is said and done.

 

I don't know about. The titles of these films have always addressed important parts of the movies.

 

I think the easiest explanation is "spoilers." Saying you were surprised is pretty much the easiest way out of the question. "Oh yeah, that's what I figured the title would be" is going to lead to a zillion follow up questions that you can't answer.

 

John Boyega said he imagined something like "Heirs of the force". And Kennedy basically admitted it was supposed to make people speculative but still be vague and noncommittal. Now that the title is what it is, no matter what happens in the movie, there will be all kinds of meta afterwards on how it is totally fitting and means xyz from the movie.

I can make "The Rise of Skywalker" fit with: the broacast rumour, the MSW leaks about Kylo - the movie, the speculation about calling Jedi Skywalkers in the future. I can do the exact same thing with "Heirs of the Force" and probably a dozen other titles they could have used. IMO they put Skywalker in the title to hammer home how it is the final movie of "the Skywalker" Saga to especially entice people who weren`t so happy with especially TLJ in the context of the Saga. If it was just about choosing a title mainly for the ST and ST folks, I`m pretty sure something else would have been chosen.

Now I know Billy Dee called it "the Rise of Luke Skywalker" accidentally once or twice but I think that could be easily explained by him being a bit confused and just naturally putting "Luke" in front of "Skywalker" since that is what would be a natural association for him from the OT. I don`t remotely think he spoiled the movie per se. Unless the broadcast thing happens. And even that, I believe, wouldn`t play out as straight as that rumour went.

 

There will probably be something very ambiguous about it that can be interpreted in some very small way to have it relate to anything or anyone from different angles.

I will give them credit - the title has sparked discussion so prior to the movie its a good title. Afterwards will be up to interpretation and execution of the movie.

 

The opening crawl for TFA starts with 'Luke Skywalker has vanished'

But Luke had 'vanished' before at some point. In the TLJ novel, Poe remembers:

Poe was born 3 years before Endor. In our world, adolescence starts at age 12 for boys, on average. By the time Poe was 12-13 (15 BBY), Rey was born. Is that why he 'vanished'?

Luke's 'vanishing' had to do with 'pursuing jedi secrets'.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/08/09/star-wars-last-jedi-rey-luke-skywalker-daisy-ridley-mark-hamill/

"[Luke] made a huge mistake in thinking that his nephew was the chosen one, so he invested everything he had in Kylo, much like Obi-Wan did with my character."

The chosen one. Was that one of the 'secrets'? Ben/Kylo mentions it on the novel:

So Luke 'vanished' around the time Rey was born, and when he took Ben he had already the chosen one idea in his mind. So, maybe the girl was lost by then, and he tried with Ben - a 'huge mistake', as Hamill says.

So, I guess Leia:

1)refused to be a Jedi shortly after ROTJ.
2)trusted Luke with a baby girl, who was lost. This was 9-10 years post ROTJ. I think 'Leia blamed Snoke' dates back to this time.
3)trusted Luke with Ben. This was 16-17 years after ROTJ.

2) is hypothetical, but one's reminded of Obi-Wan trusting Luke to Owen&Beru.

Padme>Obi-Wan>Owen&Beru
Leia>Luke>?

Maybe Zorri Bliss knows something about '?' or is '?'.

As for Luke and Obi-Wan...I wonder if theres something behind Luke quoting Obi-Wan's 'greater numbers' line in the deleted 3rd lesson:

Was this lesson about balance based on some previous experience? Sounds like that Clan vs KOR (the raiding party) conflict, and Rey was lost because of it, or so went the leaks back in 2015.

Maybe Luke's temple was born from that conflict. To 'correct' it. Ben was, I think, a latter addition...and maybe Luke found something unexpected -that woman screaming inside Ben's head- and yet familiar when he 'looked inside' Ben's head in the hut, years later. 'You opened yourself to the dark side for a pair of pretty eyes' could be Luke talking about himself.

 

This. I still hold on to the hope that Rey is a Skywalker-or for that matter, even a Solo perhaps? The latter is my personal hope-and I have specific reasons for why I have always thought that way, but I guess I'd be cool with whatever, as long as it makes sense.

Honestly I'm just going into TROS with an open mind. I've learned from TLJ that having any sort of expectations is a bad idea.

 

I don't know if it means anything (obviously), but after reading this line all I can think about is that Luke 'vanishes' at the end to TLJ too.

I just thought I'd throw that in...

 

Oooo hmm good point....

 

I want Luke to be shown igniting his green saber for training purposes in a flashback. It's iconic to see him with that blade, and the brief scene in Bens hut shouldn't be its sole usage in the ST.

Maybe Rey can come across it as well.

 

I want Luke returning to physical, unmistakable life, robed in resplendent white, awesome in righteous-but-controlled rage, wielding his original lightsaber and destroying armies of red storm troopers and their Sith overlords with the power of a mature Jedi.

But I think it's more likely that we'll see Luke wielding the Stratocaster in my profile pic.