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  1. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    That video is hilarious. That post was so obviously fake.
     
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  2. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    That cheered me up [face_laugh]
     
  3. reyvision

    reyvision Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Star Wars Insider 193 (the official Star Wars magazine) has an article detailing Rey and Kylo in TLJ and describes their arc as relationship abuse 101. The images are large, so I'm putting them under spoiler.

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  4. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I’ll make a point to buy that issue.
     
  5. alwayslurking

    alwayslurking Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Wow is this for real? That's awesome. An article about relationship abuse shouldn't make me happy, but I'm just completely shocked to see the abusive dynamic acknowledge in an official publication.
     
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  6. 2Cleva

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    The "Putting It Into Perspective section" is even more enlightening - especially the last paragraph.

    Thanks for this!
     
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  7. reyvision

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    I'm with you. Honestly, the reason I have such strong issues with romantic reylo is because of how dangerous I see it from Rey's POV.

    And yeah, it's from this magazine.

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  8. alwayslurking

    alwayslurking Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thank you @reyvision. This article worked served it's purpose for me... my excitement for TROS has actually increased for the first time in forever.
     
  9. devilinthedetails

    devilinthedetails Fiendish Fanfic & SWTV Manager, Tech Admin star 6 Staff Member Administrator

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    That's music to my ears. I appreciate any sign that the ST is self-aware enough to realize the dynamic between Kylo/Rey is abusive. Hopefully this awareness will be reflected in TROS.
     
  10. reyvision

    reyvision Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You're welcome! I think the fact Daisy hasn't been shy about mentioning that it's toxic and this quote in particular:

    “J.J. does deal with [it],” she added. “It’s a very complex issue. People talk about toxic relationships and whatever it is. It’s no joke and I think it’s dealt with really well because it’s not skimmed over.”


    Really tells me they aren't going to ignore the abusive dynamic. Even if Ben Solo is redeemed and comes to help Rey. "It's no joke" really highlights for me that to Daisy, it's addressed.
     
  11. ScreamingWoman2019

    ScreamingWoman2019 Jedi Master star 4

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    Just read it. Crap.
     
  12. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    [​IMG]
     
  13. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    I’m crazy excited to freaking finally see self awareness on the part of LF... but I still want to say that it pains me that they saddled their first female Jedi protagonist with this kind of trash.
     
  14. Darth_Tweakpiece

    Darth_Tweakpiece Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Do you mean that the article's crap? Or that the debate on whether canonical Reylo is a thing is effectively over, as in, "Crap. What do we talk about now?"
     
  15. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    Whoa you’re right! Did that just set up JJ ignoring it? [face_laugh]
     
  16. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Welp. It's nice of LFL, to acknowledge that Kylo is abusing and manipulating Rey, when for the last 2 years it's been a pretty ready stream of "Kylo isn't manipulating her", "Kylo is telling Rey the truth", or "Kylo wasn't trying to manipulate Rey". As if some of us are just crazy for noticing and being repelled by Reylo.

    There you have it. There is no romantic Reylo. There isn't a moderate Reylo. At best you have an abused and manipulated person, teaming up with her abuser within an abusive cycle perpetuated by Kylo.
     
  17. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    It’s like suddenly LF realized that RJ is full of it.
     
  18. Def Trooper

    Def Trooper Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This. I'm ecstatic that they're actually acknowledging how messed up it is, but it's still sad that this had to be the story they told in the first place.
     
  19. devilinthedetails

    devilinthedetails Fiendish Fanfic & SWTV Manager, Tech Admin star 6 Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh,yeah, they would have been better focusing on the Rey being a Jedi angle than the Rey/Kylo dynamic as anything other than adversaries in my opinion especially if Rey is not related to him and never knew him before he turned evil.
     
  20. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    I'm looking forward to this response as well as the others.
     
  21. spacebaby45678

    spacebaby45678 Jedi Master star 4

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    Was this artist vetted by LucasFilm?
    Is this official Lucasfilm?
     
  22. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    Vetted? It’s published in a SW magazine. It’s an opinion peace.

    I just realized, based on history this author is probably about to be the target of obscene social media harassment for stating fact and opinion disapproved of by some.
     
  23. reyvision

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    It's from the official Star Wars magazine. I don't really know how they go about approving articles for it but the simple fact LFL let it be published should say that the "abuse angle" is a very valid interpretation.
     
  24. Darth_Tweakpiece

    Darth_Tweakpiece Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yikes..."Toxic Fandom - The New Breed" coming to a social media platform near you.:p

    It's going to either be a long time coming, or the most entertaining conversation in years.[face_laugh]
     
  25. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    If yall want to be entertained by the reaction, just search Twitter for "Star Wars Insider" [face_laugh]

    In terms of the "vetting" of the article:

     
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