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ST I Have A Bad Feeling About This - The "Haters" Sanctuary

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Pro Scoundrel , Dec 6, 2019.

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  1. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Give me all the negativity you have!
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  2. ForceGhostPrincessLeia

    ForceGhostPrincessLeia Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Darth Affluenza is such an ineffectual surface level Vader copycat who lacks the emotional currency to pay for his redemption arc that I worry any attempt will be laughably ridiculous. His arc only has significance in how it affects the protagonist, and Rey has no reason to be personally invested in Kylo's fate. I have a hard time believing TPTB are quite as inept as they appear from the leaks, so I'm kmfc the leaks are hiding a small but significant twist that allows Rey's story to reconcile with any alleged consideration on her part for the POS villain.
     
  3. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Good. Goooooood. :emperor:
     
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  4. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    "Do you think you got him?"
     
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  5. KSennia

    KSennia Jedi Master star 2

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    Someone kindly copy/pasted the article to Reddit. It just shows that no one at Disney understands Star Wars at all. They also don't seem to have any understanding of story dynamics or what is the difference between good writing and bad writing. It's sad really. They should have kept Lucas on as a consultant and had him teach a specifically chosen group how to write Star Wars. Instead of having JJ listening to Lucas talk, then patronizingly patting him on the head and tossing his outlines in the trash.

     
  6. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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  7. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    Did that used to be elmo? [face_worried]
     
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  8. Mr. Forest

    Mr. Forest Chosen One star 6

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    I don’t want to be a hater, but the trilogy so far has left me cold and I still have no interest in seeing TRoS. I might have to go see it with family, but if I do we’re going into the cheapest showing early in the morning. I don’t want to see this in 3D, IMAX, etc.
     
  9. KyleKartan

    KyleKartan Force Ghost star 4

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    Really?! Mike Zeroh...REALLY?! You do know his reputation, dont you?
     
  10. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    TLJ...
    I really don't like the whole section from when the Resistance get to Crait up until Luke finally appears.
    Actually to be precise; it dips sharply in quality after the moments immediately following the lightsaber splitting and the Holdo maneuver. The lightspeed ram I actually didn't mind but after this is another story.


    So many lame moments... Luke's return salvages it a little but it isn't really enough.

    "What the hell?" (yay ragtag speeders :rolleyes:. They are Rebels. We get it.)

    "I like this!" (Contender for cringiest Rey line in the trilogy so far)

    "They hate that ship!"

    Rose saving Finn and the audience being confused as to if they just collectively doomed the Resistance. Either if she didn't stop him it would have failed anyway, so his death would be for nothing... or she stopped him saving everyone's lives with his potential sacrifice.

    Finn starting to walk towards the battlefield to help Luke. Come on he isn't that dumb. And Poe having to "deduce" Luke is creating a diversion for them to escape. Sigh.
     
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  11. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just a reminder to keep it about TROS, we have a whole forum for TFA/TLJ.
     
  12. alwayslurking

    alwayslurking Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I have major issues with the leaks. However, none of the plot points alone would kill the movie for me. There's just one thing that does that... Reylo. Unfortunately, without Rey and Kyo being related, that's all we are left with. The entirety of their connection is built on an introduction via kidnapping and a rape allegory, followed by fighting and torture, and then an almost immediate transition to affection and caring. It's disgusting and offensive. Rey's perspective is disregarded, full stop. And it sounds like we are getting the exact same thing again. Kylo stalking and tormenting Rey, and then an almost immediate transition to affection and caring. Kylo is not going to be redeemed and just be a second set of hands... the goon that helps her beat the big boss. She's going to have an emotional reaction to Ben's redemption and to his "heroic" act (I refuse to use you-know-who's name :p), because that's what is supposed to happen in that kind of scene. The protagonist is supposed to care, so she's going to care. It's unearned, it completely devalues her character, and it's sexist. It's Reylo. I mean, what else is there between them at this point if they're unrelated?

    I HATE Rey Palpatine. It transfers the saga into the Palpatine saga; it creates competing and contradictory themes; it's a mess. Could I live with Rey Palpatine and enjoy a couple hour popcorn flick? Yep - I think I probably could. Unfortunately, IMO with Rey Palpatine comes Reylo, and that transfers the movie into a potentially entertaining but unfulfilling end to the saga to something that is stomach churning and unwatchable.
     
  13. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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  14. Bloberto

    Bloberto Chosen One star 8

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    It was worth visiting this thread for the gifs.
     
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  15. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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  16. KSennia

    KSennia Jedi Master star 2

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    I actually did like Tallie and was genuinely sad when she croaked. I felt the same way about Paige. They were both way too young and adorable to die.
     
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  17. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    Chewie.....were home
     
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  18. Rachel_In_Red

    Rachel_In_Red Jedi Master star 3

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    If the sequel trilogy were a football play, this would be it. It makes you say, "How did people making millions of dollars to do a job come up with something this stupid?"

     
  19. Mr. Forest

    Mr. Forest Chosen One star 6

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    =((

    Tallie deserved better.
     
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  20. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    actually, nm, this isn't TLJ thread
     
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  21. Mr. Forest

    Mr. Forest Chosen One star 6

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    EDIT: not a TLJ thread
     
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  22. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    THIS, AGAIN.^
     
  23. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    If I don't see my boy Hayden Christensen, movie doesn't go pass a 6 as far as I am concerned.
     
  24. astinus4

    astinus4 Jedi Master star 1

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    The ‘original’ leaks which had an Exar Kun like Palpatine spirit and indications of demonic possession had me intrigued, but now we have:

    * Palpatine back in the flesh
    * Rey Palpatine

    Really??
     
  25. MagnarTheGreat

    MagnarTheGreat Force Ghost star 5

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    I think a spirit possession idea was easier to convey for a villain but maybe got taken out because of China. How much would they have to change the script to appease China.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_China#Film

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_censorship_in_China

    It also brings up the issue that no SW film in the future will have these banned elements as long as they're banned in China.
     
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