PT C-3P0’s reaction to Anakin becoming Vader

Did he see Anakin choking Padme? If he did, are there any canon or legends material that cover his thoughts on Anakin’s betrayal before his memory wipe?

 

"Curse the Maker!"

 

I don't think C-3PO ever left the ship. And if I'm not mistaken, he was in the cockpit when they landed. Based on the orientation of the ship to the fight, if he is in the cockpit, he's wouldn't have witnessed Padme being choked. And even if he did, his memory was wiped shortly after, so he wouldn't have remembered it.

 

Basically another case of Threepio the Human Understander having absolutely no clue about the galaxy-level drama going on with his human friends mere steps away from him. Meanwhile Artoo the Mechanic spends the entire movie beeping about how something's really wrong with Anakin, but Threepio's just like, "Well, he is under a lot of stress."

I love the irony that the human-like droid has no understanding of humans yet won't ever shut up about his expertise, while the computer-like droid has a superior understanding of humans but no one can speak his computer language except the human-like droid, who can still never understand what he's talking about.

 

Doesn't Luke understand R2's beeps?

 

It does make one wonder, though, the hell did 3PO think happened? He and R2 had to get Padme on the ship after the duel started. He's the one who tells Obi-Wan she's on board and says they should leave, and there's no way he didn't know Anakin was there. I think it's safe enough to infer that R2 told him at the very least something was up regarding Anakin

Evidently not in ANH, since he needs 3PO to translate R2's beeps for him. He's probably learned it by TESB, though, given how much time he's spent with him

 

No, he has a readout on his X-wing control panel that translates.

 

Oh did he not see it? I assumed he would have seen it through the glass and then told R2 about it afterwards.
So did R2 ever find out that Anakin choked Padme?

 

how would R2 have seen it either? Didn't Anakin tell him to stay with his ship? The only thing I can think of is if 3PO went and got him while Anakin and Obi Wan were off dueling, or if R2 found his way to the ship after that...but then he'd likely see Padme laying there, although he wouldn't know what happened.

Not to mention, he often had to have 3PO translate to him in ANH. Although, in ESB (at least it seemed like it on Dagobah) and especially TLJ Luke WAS able to understand him. I suppose in the 3 years since ANH, (or at least the 33 since then up to TLJ) that's plenty of time for him to learn it. Luke WAS with R2 for over two decades after ROTJ-maybe then if nothing else.

 

Anakin and Padme are at the back of the ship, almost underneath it. There's no way for 3PO to have seen it, unless he left the cockpit and was at the top of the ramp, but there is nothing to indicate that is the case. We don't see R2 come and help get Padme on the ship either, so I don't know if R2 saw it happen or not.

 

I don't know if R2 saw or not. Unless, and this is purely speculation, with Anakin's ship being on an elevated platform next to where Padme lands, R2 staying with the ship doesn't necessarily mean he got back in the droid socket, and could have heard the commotion,and moved to the edge to see what happened. R2 would have then gone to 3PO and told him to help get her back on board her ship.

Sorry for the double post.

 

I'm inclined to believe R2 didn't see him Choke her. I suppose it's also possible-although it's a stretch-R2 didn't know Anakin became Darth Vader either, now that I think about it. The last time R2 sees him, he suspects something's wrong but presumably doesn't witness all the things Vader did on Mustafar-from killing the Separatist leaders all the way thru to his being defeated by Obi-Wan. This would imply that R2 wouldn't have made the connection that the Sith in the mechanical suit is his old master.

Unless I am missing something, perhaps referring to that detail in Rebels or something...?

EDIT: We were quoting eachother at the same time!

 

R2 leaves with Obi-Wan without issue, so maybe he did witness it, and was like screw this guy, I'm out of here. I suppose if R2 didn't witness it, would he have a reason to make his way to the ship to help get Padme on board? As far as knowing Anakin is Vader, he'd probably be able to sense something was different, but R2 wouldn't know. R2 doesn't witness any of the events between Anakin turning to being burned on Mustafar, so he wouldn't know that Anakin is the Sith in the menacing mechanical suit.

I don't recall there being anything referenced in Rebels, or other media, concerning R2 having intimate knowledge of Anakin's turn.

Great minds think alike

 

Hmm, R2 doesn't seem to be anywhere in the vicinity when Padme's ship lands on Mustafar. Though it's possible that R2 saw the shuttle in the sky, headed over there to meet her (while Anakin and Padme's conversation was going on), and then arrived in time to witness the force choke from a distance.


And yes Darth Chuck Norris is correct, 3PO was facing away from Anakin and Padme. He could see front, right, and left, just not their direction. Though... he might hear bits of their conversation? Probably not very likely, as the background noise of the spewing lava was probably quite loud.

 

In the first two pictures, on the elevated platform, you'll see a little white spot. That is R2. I had to watch the Anakin arrives Mustafar scene to verify that is where Anakin lands, and since R2 stays with the ship, the little white spots have to be R2.

 

You are...absolutly right! Great insights.

Anakin arriving:


Padme arriving:


Anakins Ship parked in the other corner but its there. R2 probably reparked it .

Great new insights. R2 must have heard and seen all of it!

 

@Darth Chuck Norris Holy crap. I had no idea

So here's my idea of how the layout must've been. I think this should be right.

 

3PO not reading Sith in TROS is a direct correlation to Anakin choking Padme.

 

It has nothing to do with that, AFAIK, it's just something the Republic Senate outlawed.

 

See smiley face

 

Fine, then.

 

R2 is on the platform above Anakin and Padme, right behind Anakin in the pic. But 3PO should be right

 

Ah, I forgot about the platform above them. Makes sense — Anakin’s ship is nowhere to be found because it’s still up there. R2 probably had spent the whole fight making his way down to Padmé.

 

Huh, I never noticed that. I had always thought R2 didnt know Anakin was Vader.

 

what the world needs now is a novel from R2's perspective