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Senate The US Politics 2.0 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by Point Given , Nov 11, 2020.

  1. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Great, this is definitely a good time to start with the good ideas, Mr. President. I like that you kind ramped into it.
     
  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    ...so that’s the catch, I wondered what it was. He thinks if he does this, he can get the Senate to override the Electoral College and install him for another term.
     
  3. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    Watch as Congress relents, gives the $2k per person bill, and then Biden vetoes it because "Americans don't want a handout."
     
  4. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Congress can easily override his veto with the votes that passed the bill. I wouldn't be surprised if they listened to his worst complaint and removed help for undocumented immigrants. I think the only result of the veto will be delaying what relief the bill contains. Unemployment payments will already be interrupted starting on the 26th.
     
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  5. Tython Awakening

    Tython Awakening Force Ghost star 4

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    Do you remember your president Nixon?
    Do you remember the bills you have to pay?
    Or even yesterday?

    David Bowie, Young Americans
     
  6. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If the Democrats haven’t cut ads in the Georgia Senate races blasting Trump for vetoing the bill, then they’ve committed political malpractice.
     
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  7. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    Democrats have committed political malpractice by merely existing
     
  8. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Still, it's nice that he's doing good things like that, right?
    Oh, and he also did this tonight:
    "Trump has also pardoned four Blackwater private contractors responsible for killing 17 civilians in Baghdad's Nisour Square, an act that fomented terrorism against U.S. forces for years afterwards."
     
  9. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Touché!
     
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  10. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Supporting a good thing plus putting all the pressure on McConnell.
     
  11. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    Yes, obviously I'm praising Trump with that post, you poor man's Darth Weavile
     
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  12. Tython Awakening

    Tython Awakening Force Ghost star 4

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    Trump also pardoned my dog for barking.
     
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  13. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Chosen One star 7

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    We can't let increase the payments to what Trump wants, that would be letting Trump win. And at what cost?
     
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  14. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    Let’s reject $1400 to own Trump.
     
  15. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    If the idiot had said something in April or May back when the HEROES Act was passed by the House, he could have won reelection.
     
  16. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    he's just pandering, probably thinks he can stay in office by doing it. He had no part in the negotiations leading up until now.
     
  17. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Except that he’s fundamentally incapable of understanding the value of compassion. And let’s all be glad that he going to be thrown out on his ass.
     
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  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Bernie nailed it. The Democrats would be mind-bogglingly stupid to oppose this.

    Also this:



    I hope Georgia will bring him in as opposed to keeping Pandemic Profiteering Barbie with the Sean Hannity talking points.
     
  19. MotivateR5D4

    MotivateR5D4 Force Ghost star 5

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    It's pretty genius if you think about it. This could all have been part of the plan anyhow. But instead of Trump looking like the bad guy for not signing the bill, he gets to look like he's doing the people a favor. And then they just stall until everybody goes on vacation for two weeks. With people seeing it as a good thing, thinking they'll get more money this way, and it won't cause any widespread anger. When you look at how the Republicans blocked previous bills that were put forth, this doesn't seem entirely out of the realm of possibility. It is Trump's last month as president, and we all expected they'd be pulling fast ones during this time.

    All part of the plan, amirite?
     
  20. Yoda's_Roomate

    Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One star 5

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    He also pardoned people convicted of crimes from the Russia investigation.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2f038e-30f4-11eb-96c2-aac3f162215d_story.html

    President Trump granted clemency on Tuesday to 20 people, including three former Republican members of Congress and two people who were convicted of crimes as part of the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
     
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  21. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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  22. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    it seems like only a couple days ago Trumps buddies in the congress were opposing any payments. it's almost like he throws them under the bus. like if he touches them they die.
     
  23. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    Who cares. You people are just as graceless as Trumpists, if not more. I swear if Trump was going to force Jeff Bezos to give every American $100,000, you guys would still find fault in it.
     
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  24. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Yes, that's obviously what I was saying, Vivec.
    I'm not accusing you of being a secret Republican. Chill out.
    I would praise him if he actually had any ****ing ability or intent to do so.
     
  25. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    CT I think there are plenty of reasons for people to doubt Trump's sincerity. Namely, eight months worth of failed negotiations. If he was seriously going to pressure the Republicans on this point, why did he wait until now? And if he does, what fundamentally changed from all the other times he was asked to do so and refused? There's a fair case for being critical about that.
     
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