Amph Marvel's Falcon & Winter Soldier [Disney+]

The look on Sam's face was priceless when

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Bucky corrected his snarky White Panther comment with White Wolf.

 

I just skip over the end credits

 

There seems to be a lot of information in the end credits so I would assume so

 

Watched the episode again.

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The new Captain America - John Walker - I think we are headed for trouble with him. Not because he is a bad guy. He is starting from a good place but he is missing the key background elements of what made Steve Rogers the right choice for Captain America in the 1940s and guided Captain America in any time period.

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I think we’re going to learn John Walker is the Captain America military leaders would pick. Steve Rogers was picked by Abraham Erskine - a scientist who was forced to create Red Skull first and saw what his formula enhanced in a person. And Abraham saw the rise of Hitler in Germany. He picked Steve Rogers for who he was as a person - not for his physical strength. And he picked Steve for his sense of justice and understanding of people who need defending.

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John Walker’s locker room chat revealed some major differences with Steve about his background. Both men would be nervous before a big public appearance early in their career in their home town. But look at what John talks about.

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First John has a wife or girl friend that was his high school sweet heart. Steve Rogers was largely alone before going to the army. No long term girl friend. He lost both parents. Just his best friend Bucky. Steve Rogers had no anchor point - which later allowed him to be selfless. What effect will John’s attachment have in his being Captain America?

And the big change is John was an athlete. He has always been strong. John says in response to his football career “that’s why we never lost.” Maybe they were undefeated or maybe that’s a metaphor. Either way high school John Walker was a winner. That’s what he knows - victory and success. Steve Rogers never gave up but never really knew an easy win as a teenager.

This really isn’t a problem for John Walker unless he gets the super soldier serum.

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The other big difference is John Walker is an endorsed part of the military system. From the start Steve Rogers was an outsider. And Steve always was willing to stay an outsider - breaking orders to do what he felt was right. Captain America was a wanted fugitive after Civil War. I get the feeling John Walker is an agent of the military and will follow orders.

At least he’s not a hydra agent.

 

That and

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the Gandalf response which resulted in Mackie’s hilarious double take look. To be fair, Sam gave it right back when he snuck up on Buck in the FS warehouse. Bucky was not “way ahead” of Sam after all.

And thinking about that, Sam and Buck’s skills compliment each other. Same with their particular knowledge and skillsets. It’s interesting to see two military vets from different eras work together...or not.

 

I don't generally find Stan to be a funny person outside of his great chemistry with Mackie, but I'll make an exception for the hilarious look on his face after he told his date he was 106.

 

lol that has to make dating so much more pressure-filled. You have the typical nervousness,etc PLUS having to work in being an assassin as the reason why you have a metal arm.

 

What was his excuse for the gloves, poor circulation? OK, technically true since there's no blood flow to his hand.

 

He was pretty good on Once Upon A Time as the Mad Hatter to the point when they were going to do a spin-off and recast it, there was enough fan pressure to just leave the character out (he was already committed to Marvel).

Exactly. I love he never actually lied to anyone!

 

I thought of it right when we learned her name lol. I hope I'm right .

 

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a couple things that are off to me were Walker catching the shield. without the super soldier formula that thing would shatter his arm. And Bucky, jumping out of the plane. i mean , come on.

 

Do we know if that was a

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the real shield Walker caught or a fake?

Just throwing that out there. Most likely real, which brings up your excellent question.

Buck jumping out of the plane was purely a goof (For Sam’s punchline), and if you look at his history, a wink that he has always survived falls from great heights (Granted he has a form of the super soldier serum to thank for both instances.) I took it as a laugh and utterly ridiculous, yet entirely on point.

 

That 3 MoH thing knocked out my willing suspension of disbelief. Only 19 men have ever been awarded 2, and they were all from WW1 or earlier when it was awarded under different criteria. The MoH is awarded posthumously more often than not. If I'd been writing, I'd scale it back to 2, and introduce him as America's only living holder of 2 MoHs. To me, 3 goes right past impressive and lands in unbelievable.

 

I... disagree, but only slightly. I absolutely agree with your analysis -- but I think this is supposed to be an indication of just how bad it was, at least in the early days of the Blip as well as America's need to crown heroes. I suspect we'd see quite a few MOH winners from the first couple of years.

 

I get that, but for me, it's still just too much. Why not make it 5, or 10? Because that's too many to believe. And for me, 3 is also too many.

The MoH is the very highest honor we can give to a soldier, comparable to Britain's Victoria Cross, and the people who award them are very very careful to not bestow it where it might be dishonored or falsified. Which is obviously what's coming.

 

I think it's good to hold criticisms like this but at the same time you might as well call it all off because of over the top things like flying people and time travel.

 

they havn't even gotten around to addressing what wars came about during the blip, and i doubt they will

 

Yeah, it's funny how we all have different things that throw us off. Flying people and time machines are what I expect in a superhero show. But since this one is gritty and supposed to be realistic, what bothers me is 3 MoHs. If they do anything really stupid with my Herkypig, brace yourself for an epic rant. You have been warned.

 

Even for a superhero show, three MoHs is redonkulous so I agree with your assessment. I can suspend my disbelief easily, but...this tripped my No Way wire.

 

How much is that contribution to the jar gonna be?!?