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Comics The High Republic by Cavan Scott (Marvel comic book series)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ancient Whills, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. theorenwulf

    theorenwulf Jedi Master star 2

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    I found this issue to be better than most in this series, maybe because the pacing wasn't quite as frantic. Avar seems to be on a dangerous path, but I do like that the difficult situation affects her particularly, maybe we see the downside of the way she can connect all the Jedi. This connection makes her vulnerable and maybe a bit irrational in this siege situation. I loved Sskeers condition being a health problem and not the Dark Side. We've seen Jedi struggle with the Dark Side a thousand times and since this is pretty fundamental for them I wouldn't have necessarily minded another iteration of it. But seeing a Jedi struggle with health problems that affect their precious emotional balance is actually better, because it is new and allows for telling new stories. Though now that they have revealed what it is, I would like them to show some differences in how this illness affects Sskeer instead of it being the Dark Side. Or maybe the illness leads him to the Dark Side, would also be an intresting angle. Keeve on the other hand was really a mess in this issue. Understandable obviously, but instead of putting even more responsibility on her, Maru should have suspended her Jedi license so to speak. Letting her go out in the field again seems like a very bad idea, she needs some serious therapy.
     
  2. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    That was a really good issue. Avar is definitely beginning to go down a dark path and it will be interesting to see what happens to her in the future. As far as I know she isn't part of the 'Lost Twenty' so I don't think she leaves the Order. Though I am beginning to think that Avar plays a key role in turning the Order into what they become in the prequels.

    I like the development of this. These Jedi in this era have never gone through any substantial conflict in their lives so it makes sense some of them wouldn't handle it that well once they do have some significant stress.

    Looks like according to future covers issue 15 will catch us up to where the next book is.
     
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  3. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that Avar will miss the main event (again), and news about attack on Starlight will lead to her breakdown and attempt to kill Lourna.
     
  4. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    It would make for a good end to phase one for Lourna Dee to die at the hands of someone like Avar. It would clearly indicate what path the Jedi were heading down and wouldn't stop the conflict as they would find out Lourna wasn't the leader of the Nihil. [\SPOILER]
     
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  5. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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  6. Darth_Erebus

    Darth_Erebus Jedi Master star 1

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    Just read this months issue.

    I do love seeing Jedi turn towards the Dark Side so seeing Avar head that way is delightful. Seeing Lourna in a battle suit was awesome and her battle with Avar was good
     
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  7. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah this was a really good issue. So sad it's ending here next month

    It has been fun seeing Avar's transformation from what she was in Light of the Jedi to what she is now. It will definitely be interesting to see what they do with her during Phase III. I think she is going to be a key reason as to why the Jedi turned into what they did.
     
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  8. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Can you expand upon that last part?
     
  9. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I'm not keen on Avar truly falling, but it's clear her descent will contribute to some new rules within the Jedi Order.

    That said, her arc sort of reinforces my Galadriel impressions with her. I can imagine the Song of the Force around her right now sounds like the discord of Melkor in the Song of the Ainur. For her, that was in the deeds of the Nihil but she's allowed herself to be swept up in that discordant note rather than crafting a melody that incorporates and overcomes.

    Also really bums me out that Lourna turned away from her possible redemption arc in Tempest Runner. She could have turned her back on the Nihil and turned a new leaf, and she allowed Pan Eyta to drag her right back down into the muck.

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  10. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes infact I wouldn't be surprised if she herself puts some of those rules in place. She survives the Fallen Star and is pretty heroic in how she tries to save the people that are in the upper half of Starlight so she is going to have a lot of sway within the Order from here on out.

    During this arc she very much started acting like the Jedi of the prequels.
     
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  11. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Can we not have spoilers for TFS in here, or at least clearly mark them? Not everyone has had the chance to read it yet. @AvarandElzarsittininatree
     
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  12. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Ok. Will do. Sorry.
     
  13. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    IMO, this months issue is so far the best, both in terms of story and art quality.
    On the one hand I like how slow and gradual was path to Avar's fall, it is the result of more than a year of constant fighting and hard choices. But on the other hand, her personal conflict with Lourna, IMO, should have been established earlier, even before Tempest Runner (for example, by making Dee directly responcible for spreading the Drengir).
    Also seems like Avar is going to be stopped pretty fast before doing something unforgivable and Lourna is going to be just arrested again. Not that I want for Kriss to go full on the dark side, but her promising career as independent thinking
    and ready to take decisive action Jedi leader (Revan-light version) is seemingly (and sadly) over after losing both title of Marshal and Starlight Beacon itself.
     
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  14. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    This issue confused me.

    So Avar is going dark, I knew she would either fall or die, you don't build up a character as "The Paragon of everything good" if you aren't going to kill them or make them fall.

    But this fall, I don't feel it. "take them" isn't bad, Keeve seemed very dumb for her comments there. These people deploy gas and are shooting at you, this isn't cold blooded murder, this is self defence, making the flamer blow is just part of the fight, I am not feeling this as being dark. Even taking off Lourna's hand happened after she asked for her surrender.

    But yeah looks like that horrible selfish murderer (Lourna) will get arrested and then escape again.

    I wonder what Avar will do with no titles. Guess we will find out in a couple of years.
     
  15. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    Avar going dark is a touch less about the killing, this era of Jedi haven't been depicted as going into a fight with the intent to kill, and more about their internal state. Avar's intentions are clouded with rage. She's not as reluctant to kill as she would have been a year ago.

    It's not so much that she killed people or cut off Lourna's hand, it's that she's acting out of anger, arguably person and egotistical anger even.

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  16. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly. It's the fact that she is now acting out of rage and the need for revenge which indicates the path she is on. In Light of the Jedi she was acting out of a desire to help people. She's acting out of a desire for revenge because of what happened in earlier issues of this series as well as Rising Storm.

    I doubt she goes full on Darkside though.
     
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  17. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    See
    I think her reaction to Keeve questioning her showed that better than anything else. Since she came off badly and took bad actions.

    Killing people who are shooting at you doesn't show that as well I don't think.


    She is going Ahab on them.

    I wonder if she doesn't go dark if she will die to save others as a redemption.
     
  18. TherenAdarni

    TherenAdarni Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I really hope the comics for Phase III don't have Avar in such a prominent role. Ideally both she and Elzar would get significant attention in a Del Rey novel.
     
  19. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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  20. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Fianlly got round to reading the new issue.

    Keev do you ever get tired of being wrong? That might be the quickest "instantly proven wrong" in Star Wars comics. "she isn't a threat" then taken hostage. It would be funny if Lorna ended up on Starlight Beacon, but I doubt it. I am sure she has escaped and will kill more people.

    Thos does prove an interesting companion for Fallen Star.
     
  21. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    After seeing how this series is wrapping up I am really kind of surprised they are ending it now and not just giving it one extra arc in order to go up to the start of phase 2.

    They easily could have given the search for Lourna an additional few issues as they pretty much wrapped all that up in a single issue.
    I'm sure they had their reasons. Perhaps they just wanted to give High Republic material a short break so they could do some other things.
     
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  22. Gallandro007

    Gallandro007 Jedi Master star 1

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    Isnt phase 2 ser 150 years before?
     
  23. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Yep.
     
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  24. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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  25. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Decent last issue,
    especially all of the Maru (and KC-78) and Lourna scenes. Liked that she acknowledged Marchion's achievements, but decided to follow her own path (seems like she is going to be a third party in the conflict, like Starscream in Prime and Animated). And that revenge via headshot was brutal.
     
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