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Mini Series The Book of Boba Fett 1.04 - Chapter 4 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Jan 18, 2022.

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Grade the Episode

Poll closed Jan 26, 2022.
  1. 10

    5.8%
  2. 9

    27.3%
  3. 8

    29.2%
  4. 7

    20.1%
  5. 6

    7.1%
  6. 5

    7.8%
  7. 4

    0.6%
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    1.9%
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  1. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I thought it was out of respect. In the EU, these two had worked together. And even if that's not so now, they knew of each other and likely had respect for each other. Hence, BK didn't try to maim Fett.
     
  2. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I liked the techno music during the scene. The heaviness of it also made the modders seem more dangerous. Which they didn't seem last episode. Music like that might've helped during their introduction in Streets of Mos Espa.
     
  3. Sarge

    Sarge 6x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    That's been one of my pet peeves in multiple franchises for years. Supposedly elite spec ops soldiers with ninja stealth skills are carrying all these gadgets and weapons with brightly-colored blinky lights, usually with beeping and whining sound FX so that they'll draw even more attention. That is so dumb.

    OTOH, tactics were a little better than usual. Did you notice in the firefight in Jabba's hangar, there were crates and barrels scattered around, and people actually took cover behind them!


    He still had that long Tusken rifle, but I don't recall him ever using it. I can let that slide for the stealth infiltration phase; he was trying to be quiet and not draw attention.

    As for Fwip, she gave Boba a helmet full of coins, and the implication was that he'd provide 'protection' for her business in return. But when BK was assaulting her paying customers and smashing her game tables, Boba just stood there and watched and she had to deal with the problem herself. What's she pay him for, anyway? She should ask for a refund. That said, I did like the way she handled things.
     
  4. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    He's literally the one who anticipates Han's ruse and tracks them to Bespin.
    That is to demonstrate Boba is ruthless, and is known for destroying his targets.
    Boba steps into view at the same time as the stormtroopers. Everyone but Vader was in hiding, so Vader could have his moment.
    Eh, he was still the only guy giving Luke an actual fight. But the real reason is to show off Boba's gadgets, and prolong the fight without breaking Luke's plot armor.
     
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  5. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I don't see those two things as mutually exclusive. He wants to have a family, and he wants to be his own boss. So...he becomes the boss of a family. A family, it seems, he intends to create out of people he respects.
     
  6. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Well I thought it was a fantastic episode, easily my favourite after Ep. 1, the flashbacks are the best part of the show. I can't believe they went and addressed the Legends scene with Boba blasting the Sarlacc but with Fennec that actually drops the thermal grenade, now changed to a seismic charge into the sarlacc. The flashbacks can't stop until Boba finds out Cobb Vanth has got his armour. Will there be a trail for Boba to follow, he's going to have to figure out Jawas took his armour though anyone with a relative knowledge of the desert should work out these pesky little scavengers would be prime suspects, we'll wait and see...
     
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  7. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Chosen One star 5

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    I'm gonna just give a little kudos here with the series' restraint thus far in keeping the cameos to a tasteful minimum. The handful of familiar faces have been peripheral to this point. Given the ending of this chapter, that seems likely to change next week. Hopefully we'll have familiar characters operating in service of Boba's narrative and not vice versa.
     
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  8. Blame_It_On_Lucas

    Blame_It_On_Lucas Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Lol are you seriously replying with counter points? My dude, I guess it wasn't obvious by my couple "lols" or calling Vader's confrontation with Han a "brunch" but I was being facetious just for fun.

    All good and meaning with absolute sincerity but my bad for not being more clear so you didn't have to spend time typing that response. I was aware or feel the same way you do about those points.
     
  9. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    There were some great scenes in this episode, but overall it might be the most disappointing one for me, because they finally went for the character development, and it was just completely uninspired. Boba is not a compelling character, just a prism refracting whatever production design-driven plot points the uninspired writers come up with. I've been very generous with my scoring up till now, but my generosity has reached its limit.

    The Good:
    • Garsa Fwip: has there ever been such an enchanting, splendid character in Star Wars? Definitely not from the feminine side. Her dress was fabulous, what a scene stealer!
    • Droid antics were great, especially the Chef Greivous.
    • Slave 1 was cool
    • Krrsantan: fairly one-dimensional for now (the standard for this show), but great design, whoever's in the suit knows how to move it.
    The Bad:
    • Boba's introspective moments are getting dumber and dumber. I've come to the realization he's just not a very smart guy, or maybe a dreamer. He's not a hardened bounty hunter, can't imagine he ever was, not in this story.
    • The "gather the bosses" scene was terribly written, everybody speaking in allegories and allusions.
    • Way too many night scenes, hard to see what's going on, and color is lost.
    • The recycling is getting annoying, we don't need to see so many shots of Boba on a Bantha, or going back to Sarlacc pit and wasting time there, or waking up in the Bacta tank two or three times every episode. The production design of this show is pretty good, but when they stretch things out it gets boring.
    • The music is not delivering for me, the techno was not great, but none of it is remarkable
    The Ugly:
    • Fennec Shand: what a pointless character. She adds nothing, and by the emptiness of her campfire scene with Boba, I don't think she could add anything if they wanted her to. Boba is talking about making a "house" and she is all-in on it. What does that even mean? Why does an assassin want that? Is it now normal for the scum and villainy of Star Wars to pack it in after their first brush with death? Why is it so hard for the tv side of Star Wars to achieve competent writing? The Mandalorian had this problem too, but it wasn't nearly as bad. I've said it before, I'll say it again, Cara Dune is a much more interesting, and far better written character than Fennec Shand.
     
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  10. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    He was given specific orders to squeeze Boba Fett not rip Boba Fett.
     
  11. BadAcrobat

    BadAcrobat Jedi Master star 4

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    This whole Slave 1 thing........

    I get why people are upset with the writing, and the decision they made.....as to me it will always be Slave 1, and I have no problem with that. And it annoys me that Disney/LF have to make that change. Its indicative of society today, how messed up it is. So look at it this way.....they can't call it Slave 1, because the backlash and publicity that would generate would be intolerable. Do I wish Boba would just say Slave 1, yes of course I do....but I see why the writes 'have' to change it. And yes, it should have been worded/written better.

    The episode was fantastic. The series is NOT all over the place, the pacing is perfect, the choices they are making (colorful speeder bikes, the mod parlor etc....) are all great, new and refreshing. Bold choices. I'm SO glad we are not getting, 'safe' Mando 3 here (as much as I love Mando...and we will get more of him later).
     
  12. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    By the way, right before the meeting with the three Mos Espa families, we unmistakably hear Cobb Vanth's introductory theme. I'm guessing that when Din comes, he brings Vanth with him - a guy who also has a keen interest in getting rid of Tatooine's oppressive criminal overlords.
     
  13. clone commander bossk

    clone commander bossk Ostrich Velocity Expert star 5

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    I think boba just called it a firespray so fennec would know what kind of ship it was.
     
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  14. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Me too. I wonder if it's just a matter of liking techno. Some people freak out over this in SW, but I'm very happy with it.

    I also think the mods are a great addition to the SW universe, and they make perfect sense for a number of reasons, but also if some beings want to make themselves like Force users via tech (assuming they're heard of Force users, which in my view, many more would have than fans often assume).
     
  15. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I suspected you were, but let's be honest, we've both been here long enough to know that it's hard to tell with this gang of misfits. And I say that with love. :)
     
  16. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    I really hope that Din and the Mando's don't swoop in like a bunch of deus ex machina's stealing Boba's thunder in the finale of his own show. Then again I was totally on board with Luke doing the same thing in the season two Mando finale.
     
  17. BadAcrobat

    BadAcrobat Jedi Master star 4

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    As much as I agree with you regarding how great a character Garsa Fwip is - I think your re forgetting Leia!

    As for your Bad points, disagree with all of them.

    Your ugly point. Disagree completely.

    Sorry you are not enjoying (a very well written and conceived) show.
     
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  18. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Chosen One star 5

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    Haven't we heard techno in SW before, in TCW? Anyway, it fits as much in SW as big band jazz.
     
  19. Sarge

    Sarge 6x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I know.
     
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  20. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I hate techno, but I didn't mind it at all in the episode. Not all in-universe SW music should sound the same, and if we're ok with swing jazz (cantina band), then why not techno?
     
  21. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    Wait what? So far she has been more relevant than Boba Fett.
     
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  22. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That and we've already seen the Jawas getting slaughtered by a Mando. :)
     
  23. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Interesting, I had not noticed that Cobb Vanth has a musical theme as well, even though I have listened to the themes of Bo Katan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka and Luke Skywalker a million times. I am going to go find it, and then watch the scene you speak of again.
     
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  24. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    You can compliment the show in any way you want, but to say it's "very well written" is just ridiculous. Come on.
     
  25. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Leia is wonderful too, and we'll always love her. The way Garsa can take over a scene though, man. Jennifer Beals might get to the same level as Ian McDiarmid if they give her enough material. Padme was enchanting too, but in a more passive way.

    I can't think of any scene where she could have been left out and nothing would be lost. She is pretty much a redundant aspect of Boba, his "bad side" that was written out for "reasons".