Lit The Proto EU Soft Reboot

Before Disney acquired Star Wars i think Lucasfilm made an Unofficial Soft Reboot to the Star Wars franchise starting with TCW it was clear that Lucasfilm already wanted to separate themselves from the EU in 2008 TCW Series clearly contradicted the events that occurred in the Republic comics i feel like the Underworld TV Series would have started and expanded the "Lucasverse" in a bigger way the Star Wars 1313 videogame originally was going to be about Boba Fett Origin story this game probably would have contradicted the Young Boba Fett EU Origin Novels so the game 1313 would have been part of this new "Lucasverse" very connected with the Underworld Series and not from the EU. The Force Unleashed came out during 2008 i also believe TFU was also part of the "Lucasverse" from what i remember there were rumors of Galen Marek appearing in Underworld also TFU was very high promoted as "the definitive story between Episode 3 and 4" so Galen Marek story would definitely have been part of the "Lucasverse"as well. Now the Lucas Sequel Trilogy would have contradicted the EU too the New Sequels was going to have new characters like Kira and Sam, Darth Talon was going to appear but it wasnt going to be the same Talon from the Legacy comics she was going to have a different story so the EU would clearly have been contradicted more and abandoned this time an EU Reboot was inevitable

What do you think of this Soft Reboot? do you think it was true?

 

Depends what you consider a Soft Reboot. The movies have been contradicting the EU since at least TPM, and probably since ESB. I can't imagine 1313 would have contradicted Boba Fett origin stories more than AOTC did. I'm sure the EU would have rolled with the punches and done its best like it always had. Now a Lucas sequel trilogy probably would have forced some form of a formal reboot, but I think that goes beyond what you are talking about here.

 

The first soft reboot was with TTT, frankly. Where they just ignored for a long time the Marvel comics, Splinter of the Mind's Eye, and all the Droids and Ewoks cartoons, the Ewok Adventures and the Holiday Special.

 

Marvel Star Wars 2013 essentially ignored other EU stuff to tell the story between ANH and ESB again

 

The coming into existence of the T-canon would be the soft reboot that the OP is talking about. The original CW cartoon had been C-canon like everything else.

 

That's after the official hard EU reset though.

 

That was after the Disney sale, but prior to the Legends reboot. Those comics are not Canon.

 

It wasn't Marvel, but yeah, Star Wood definitely feels a bit like a reboot. It's less noticeable since so few of the Yavin-to-Hoth works fit with any other, but between that comic and the Empire and Rebellion books, you can see the pivot to a "safer" area of the timeline, disconnected from the EU and more similar to early canon works (like, of course, Heir to the Jedi).

 

The hypothetical 1313/Underworld/TFU "Lucasverse" would almost certainly have just been another application of GL's "my universe and their universe" SOP. To be honest, I don't think Lucasfilm - defined here as "Lucas" - had enough concern about the EU to care about whether or not it needed a reboot. There might have been individual stories he was fond of for this or that reason, but in terms of the EU as a continuity, GL was indifferent.

To the extent that there was enough of a continuity to reboot back then, I actually give the "first soft reboot" honor to WEG, whose first edition virtually ignored everything but the films (with a handful of references to the Han Solo trilogy thrown in to bulk up the ship and equipment lists). TTT did that too, but whether Zahn consciously made that choice or simply followed WEG's lead, I'm not certain.

 

Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I just wanted to clear up the misconception that Star Wood was part of/after the start the of the DisnEU.

 

I wasn't paying close enough attention to the date since it was prefaced with "Marvel." Star Wood was Dark Horse.

 

Don't quote me on this, but I distinctly remember reading somewhere that, when Ryder Windham read the script for TPM in late 90s, he recommended rebooting the EU as it existed back then and starting from scratch. Obviously that was not done. If only I could remember where I read this.

Maybe by then, the "modern" EU had served its chief purpose, which was to help determine how much interest there still was in the Star Wars brand before they went ahead with the really big and expensive projects, namely the Prequel movies. After those began, it continued to exist(limp along?) as an adjunct.

 

Well, I think I did the opposite. I didn't even catch that the original post said it was Marvel (or my brain didn't recognize that as off).

 

Kind of funny how that tiered continuity thing is still in play without being spoken of as such. I wonder if there would be a new tier added for live action roleplays like Galaxy's Edge and Galactic Star cruiser...

 

The Prequels do not contradict the EU that much there were Retcons to make the Universe work better for me the problem started with TCW even Dave Filoni acknowledged that TCW contradicted the Multimedia Project the EU was no longer a priority in 2008 and if the Lucas Sequels had come out, the contradiction would be more evident with a bigger impact though im sure Lucas would have treated the EU more nicely and would have let the EU continue as an Alternative Universe

 

I wonder why Windham thought that.

 

The prequels contradicted the EU plenty, they just had the benefit of continuity fixes applied both as the movies were coming out, and in retrospect. I think people tend to overstate the contradictions between The Clone Wars and the EU, but it definitely suffers from the "wait-and-see" attitude LFL had about some (but not all) of the issues.

 

Agreed. And the Reader's Companion clarified a lot about the placement of the novels, leaving only the comics really in limbo.

And Clone Wars contradictions predate the series. Was Anakin knighted at the beginning (microseries) or end (novels) of the conflict? Did Quinlan Vol live (Republic comics) or die (ROTS graphic novel) in Order 66?

 

AOTC seems to have contradicted the EU at the time more than TPM or ROTS, which makes me wonder why Windham reacted that way to TPM.

 

The Republic comics retcon the Zahn Clone Wars with Pellaeon appearing in them
the SkyeWalkers novel helped to fix the continuity problems with the old Marvel Star Wars comics i think the Prequels movies dont had that much problems with the EU TCW was where the most serious continuity problems began

 

That Jedi are required to be celibate was NEVER hinted at before AOTC and caused a ton of problems. It even affected comics released between TPM and AOTC, since Ki-Adi was depicted as married; cue the retcon that he got a special exception because he's from an endangered species.

 

Obviously the EU had a better idea what to avoid in regards to the prequels, because they knew those were coming. TCW told stories that had essentially already been told in the EU. But there was plenty of conflict between the EU and PT. Ki-Adi-Mundi's wives and kids, Boba Fett being born Jaster Mereel, crazy cloners trying to take over the galaxy, Ki-Adi-Mundi being a Knight on the council (poor guy), Mace being 13 on the council - just to name a few that come quick to mind.

 

My favorite along these lines is that the EU already had a character named Mace Windu well before TPM.



(Yeah, I know Pablo retconned that before TPM even came out, but still.)