Animated Shorts Official *Tales of the Jedi* Discussion Thread

These shorts will be for PT to ST era Jedi.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the show has a lot of retcons.
-Canon stories tend to heavily imply or outright state Dooku was on the Jedi High Council at some point. In this show, we see him resentful that Mace is getting a seat on the council. Maybe Dooku was once on the council but was kicked off of it.
-Dooku is called Master Dooku when he's at the temple in 32 BBY, despite the fact that he left the Jedi in 42 BBY. Now, maybe it's just a sign of respect. I'm pretty sure another canon story says he is allowed to come back and visit the Jedi Temple since he left the order voluntarily.
-The entire Ahsoka YA novel seems to be erased now. We already had the brief Mandalore opening retconned by TCW Season 7, and now it seems like the Inqusitor encounter and Bail scenes are all wiped from canon now as well.
I don't need a canon written in stone, but one of the things I preferred about the Disney era was keeping almost everything consistent. Now, it seems like they don't really care.

 

Of course maybe they could go outside Skywalker saga, but I doubt it.

 

If it's not on screen (animated/live-action), it's not really canon has been the approach from what we've seen.

 

This, basically. They've shown a willingness to both draw from external sources, i.e. books, comics and video games... while irreconcilably retconning the very sources they're drawing from in the process. The Ahsoka book is a prime example, as are the Aftermath books, and there are tons of examples big and small spread about. And frankly, I'm fine with that. For the vast, vast majority of fans, Star Wars is really just the movies and TV series. If contradicting a YA novel leads to the best movies and TV, then so be it. My enjoyment of something like the High Republic novels won't be lessened if they're eventually contradicted by some future trilogy or what have you.

 

I'm not going through 30 pages of replies.
Was it not an accident that Yoda had no lines of dialogue? Out of respect for Tom Kane's condition, to be sure.

 

Exactly what I was thinking. Lucasfilm is surely looking for new Yoda VAs (or have them already) but didn't find it necessary to have Yoda speak in this series.

 

Surprised they didnt get Frank Oz for small role. Probably just as respect for Tom Kane while looking for new Yoda voice actor.

 

I haven't watched any episodes yet, but can I just ask, have Disney done a Netflix and released all the episodes at once?

 

Yes, all 6 of them.

 

Considering that this batch of TOTJ focuses on two very different individuals who nevertheless were connected by loosely similar journeys, one possibility for the future is that they'll show us more of the Jedi paths of Leia Organa and Ben Solo.
Leia as she begins her training, interrupts it and then begins to train Rey. Ben as he is sent to Luke's temple, is manipulated by Snoke/Sidious and joins the Knights of Ren.

The latter has already been depicted in comic form, but you never know.

It would be interesting to see something involving Darth Bane, though.

 

Oooh yes, I'd love something with Leia post-OT, even if it's after her formal training with Luke.

Oh and of course, Leia and Rey in between TLJ and TROS.

 

Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura would be nice for S2, or Ventress.

 

How was she amazing by the end of the episode? By being able to hold off Rex and the clones for five minutes before getting knocked out again? Whew. Or do you mean Order 66? But she never acted alone. She got help from Rex and the droids. If she were so awesome and flawless as you claim, she would need no help and no mentoring, and nothing whatsoever.

Well she is a Force sensitive. I doubt she used the Force consciously. Maybe she was simply not afraid. You know, that works IRL, too. People often give kids advice to not be afraid when surrounded by dogs and such, because they can sense it, and they are more likely to attack you.

And Obi-Wan cut Darth Maul in half effortlessly, while he stood there and watched him do it. And Darth Vader just threw Palpatine into a hole. What's the problem here? Villain is arrogant and unbalanced, the hero calms themselves, does not succumb to anger, lets go of fear, and focuses instead, in order to overcome the villain. Inquisitors are not exactly exceptionally skilled, either. The Grand Inquisitor, the best one they've had, was defeated by Kanan, an ex-Padawan. Cal Kestis, another former Padawan, defeated three of them.

Yeah, she's the hero character, of course she's special. By virtue of being a protagonist alone she's special. She earned her skills and worked her way up.

lol

 

Bah. It's common for Force sensitive toddlers to do amazing things. Caleb,
who cheered her on, is three years younger (still in his preteens, most likely) and thus understandably awed.
And Inquisitors? Vader deliberately keeps them from reaching their full potential so they can't overpower him. Someone like Ahsoka, who's been trained to an exceptional level by Anakin, should have no trouble defeating one of them.

Ahsoka is not the Chosen One, but she was trained by him. That should make a difference.

 

Is that what you want?

MORE MARK HAMILL, please and thank you!

 

Second.
More Mark Hamill is good.

 

Next Season, Luke and Rey journeys.

 

She did indeed do Animal Bond (Force Power) as a toddler, but it showed in her training against Rex & his Troops, she isn’t all powerful. I liked as you said, Anakin not being flattered by the remotes and that ironically he trained her to survive his own enforcement of Order 66. I wish we’d see Ahsoka and Vader (ROTS) fight at the Jedi Temple.

Ahsoka: Master?!
Vader: Anakin is dead, I killer him. There is only Vader..
Ahsoka: No.. that’s not true.. that’s impossible!
Vader: Obi-Wan once thought as you did, now you like him are my enemy!

 

So you answered your own question: she became good, because she worked hard to become good. I don't see the problem, and I don't see how that's a bad message.

Any Jedi could have done that. It was literally said in the episode: "That's what every Jedi does."

The episode had many other points, besides "reminding the audience that Ahsoka is amazing." But you seem to be focusing only on this. Your focus determines your reality, as one Jedi Master once said.

Apparently. Happened in one of the highest grossing movies of all time that started the whole franchise.

Training is not pointless. Talent without training is nothing. You have to refine your skills to actually become good and make use of the talent.

It's not like I liked that episode, but it sure didn't make me mad or anything, as if Filoni ran over my dog, or something. I mean, she is Force sensitive. The Force binds everything, surrounds, yada yada. Animals are a part of that living Force in the Star Wars setting, they are just as affected by it. Fear leads to aggression and the Dark Side. This is Star Wars, I am sorry. What happened there is not out of the ordinary. This is a part of the mythical aspect of it.

I mean it's one thing to say you think she's over-exposed, but it's another thing to contradict yourself and the text of the episodes to make that point.

Actually, no. He shouldn't. His ingenuity, his ability to think outside of the established box and look at things differently is what he had over most of the other Jedi, which was illustrated both in The Clone Wars and here. He imparted that onto Ahsoka, and he used that to train her differently from other Jedi, which led to different results. That is what saved her many times, and that proved that Anakin was a good teacher.

 

Just finished. Fantastic show. More please. Far past, after ROTJ with Luke and Ben, post TROS with Rey and Finn. So many avenues.