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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    And that seems unnecessarily complex (and thus expensive) for an Empire that doesn't like spending money on fighter craft.

    I'm content that it's likely an Outland TIE Interceptor.

    Gideon has smaller forces, so specialises them more.
     
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  2. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    With the 90 degree shift the pilot would just get into the chair like normal and strap in...then it pivots to so the pilot is now facing downward. I think the lying down with a 180 pivot would over complicate it.
     
  3. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I enjoyed seeing that closeup of the bomber even if it was only for a second
     
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  4. Grevious_Coward

    Grevious_Coward Jedi Knight star 1

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    It wouldn't be all that complicated, basically it would just be a motorised swivel chair. I do think either method would require additional hand holds and foot rests to make it easier and faster for the pilot to get in.

    Edit: Just thought I would mention that I think your method would be nicer on the pilot once in the seat, as it would be like leaning over, instead of mine, where it would be like being flipped over and suddenly feeling like you're falling.

    The Empire remnants of this era seems to be moving towards more flexible and thus more expensive variants of standard TIE and Interceptor. The folding wings and added landing gear (I presume the Intercepter version can land, otherwise there is not much point to the folding wings) of the Outland variants would likely increase their cost compared to the standard versions.
    I didn't realise how many bombers there are. I count at least a squadron of bombers in the picture of the hangars. Add that to the number of TIE Interceptors show in an earlier episode (I counted around 26 deployed against Bo-Katan and Mando - 6 initially and 20 in the big swarm ). It's going to be a big fight next episode!
     
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  5. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    I also wonder if it might be like starfury deployment on B5 where the whole ship is rotated. Though I suppose that would negate the storage advantages...

    Also apparently Mel's Miniatures found a better picture of the mercenary ship from Kenobi, though I have no idea where from:
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  6. Grevious_Coward

    Grevious_Coward Jedi Knight star 1

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    If the fighters are manned and deployed one row at a time, you could have the ship rotate into position, but it'll will likely drastically slow down how quickly they can be deployed.

    Also good to see a clear picture of the Mercenary ship!
     
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  7. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It says Star Wars Celebration bottom left. So probably the Kenobi panel.
     
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  8. eagle_gt

    eagle_gt Jedi Knight

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    Could artificial gravity be used in the hanger to re-orient the pilots to match the orientation of the fighters? Seems like it would be an overly complicated, but technically possible solution.
     
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  9. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Good points.

    The interceptors did attack Bo and Din in waves earlier, might this be the reason?

    Ah, that makes sense.

    For some reason I read that as star wars federation and thought it was some fansite. Whoops.

    Star Wars tech does use artificial gravity pretty casually....
     
  10. gat-65b

    gat-65b Jedi Knight star 1

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    Actually it's the Doug Chiang Design of Kenobi panel (just Doug up there himself talking about design - production, costume and a little on the ships. There is some more talk on the transport Obi-Wan and Leia escape Reva from in episodes 2-3). I think it is on Day 4 of the Celebration streams (maybe Day 3?). Anyway, just like last year, it is a good watch. Doug always comes across as a super nice guy and you get all sorts of insight into the choices they make - sort of like a video version of an Art of Star Wars book.
     
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  11. Sly442

    Sly442 Jedi Knight star 1

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    wah wah
     
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  12. Grevious_Coward

    Grevious_Coward Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yep, no big space fight, was very disappointed that it didn't happen.:(
     
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  13. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Putting it on the list of the season's disappointments.
     
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  14. Long Snoot

    Long Snoot Jedi Master star 3

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    I didn't expect the TIE intereceptors to be just dropped like that, I hope the ship's split second manouver is aided by some kind of automated system (like repursorlifts in the wings turning on or something like that) and not left to the pilot. Visually it looked very cool.

    Did we see the TIE bombers actually do anything in the space battle? We see them strafe along with the interceptor but I didn't notice them launch ordinance of any kind. I'm guessing the battle was originally supposed to be longer but some pieces were cut, because concept art shows the Gozanti being involved.
     
  15. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Weirdly, there is concept art for the battle in the episode's credits, so...what happened? Did the budget run out? Footage get lost?
     
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  16. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Cockpit also appears to be inspired by Star Wars Squadrons. The Interceptors were also painted black and white, like the super commandos themselves.
    The TIE Bombers in the concept art are actually TIE Boarding Craft
     
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  17. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Fleetjunkie for life: [​IMG]

    Gesendet von meinem FP3 mit Tapatalk
     
  18. gat-65b

    gat-65b Jedi Knight star 1

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    Very disappointing as others have said. I mentioned in one of the TV threads, if Favreau liked space battles half as much as he liked monsters, we could have been in for some great action this season (did enjoy the starfigher fights this season, actually but this episode really dropped the ball). As it is, definitely looks like a space battle was cut from the finale. Maybe they wanted to save time for stuff dearer their heart... like R5 vs mouse droid hijinks. Sigh. Truly being a fleet junkie is a sad lot in life for a Star Wars fan, sometimes. I mean the setup was right there (not to mention all of the TIEs have to suddenly disappear for this finale to make any sense) I can't help but cast my gaze enviously at what Picard is promising Star Trek fans for its finale in contrast.

    Episodes 4 and 6 climax in massive space battles. Space fights should be a fundamental part of Star Wars on-screen offerings. Not an occasional sidetrip but a necessary part of a show. Can only hope somewhere Rogue Squadron finds life as a TV series or some bigtime 90s Zahn fan gets the reigns of a new show.
     
  19. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    With regards to disappointment over
    no space battle...it would have need a great opportunity to bring Dreadnoughts to live action considering that is a ship strongly associated with Thrawn due the the Dark Force plot line of the HtTE books. Not just have all the TIEs come up from the planet but at the same time have a Dreadnought jump in from hyperspace and give us maybe 10-15 minutes for of episode with some serious ship to ship combat.
     
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  20. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Maybe in Ahsoka.
     
  21. CampOfSorgan

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    I love Duchess Satine’s ship, the Coronet


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  22. gat-65b

    gat-65b Jedi Knight star 1

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    So in the interests of balancing things out, as a recap for Season 3 of Mando, I do feel there were a number of positives:
    1)Both pirate ship types, particularly the Corsair, were very nicely designed
    2)In general the dogfighting was the best it has been all series (and some of the best since ROTJ for me, actually)
    3)Great decision to use TIE Interceptors, which are criminally underused, almost as much as TIE bombers.
    4)Both the Guantlet but especially the N-1 (customized though it was) were given time to shine. BOBF gave us a wonderful love letter to the N-1 in its restoration and maiden flight episode but seeing it take out enemy fighters this season scratched an almost 25 year itch to see it back in action.
    Objectively speaking (though my disappointment about the final episode remains), this was a pretty good season for starfighter action; capital ship combat of course, remains as elusive as ever on and off-screen.
     
  23. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Seems like that is a re-use of the Fantail concept art...did they ever confirm that?

    [​IMG]
     
  24. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Jedi Survivor Spoilers (from review, not leaks)

    At the end of the review video one can see the Z-95s spotted in the earlier gameplay trailer - interestingly, they seem different from both the classic Z-95 and the Clone model. Wonder if it might even be the Z-96 mentioned in Resistance? Probably not, that was a pretty quick comment in a show that doesn't get many shout outs in other star wars media, but fun new model in any case.
     
  25. Long Snoot

    Long Snoot Jedi Master star 3

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    Interestingly they backtracked with the LAAT/le design, in JFO they made a "realistic model" with more armor and less visible solar panels while in Jedi Surviror the design is pretty much the same as in the animated shows.