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Full Series Official "The Clone Wars" Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by RevantheJediMaster, Jul 15, 2005.

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  1. Bibliora

    Bibliora Jedi Knight star 3

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    While Rebel's is top of my list, TCW is impressive. It made Jar Jar tolerable, see the clones as individuals, and illustrated Anakin's fall. Also got me questioning what it meant to be the Chosen One. Too bad it's still perceived as a kid's cartoon, so even "grown up" fans of SWU won't watch it. All the article's around Ahsoka is relating it to Rebels, so maybe it will lead them TCW.
     
  2. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    So I have started a rewatch of all Star Wars animated content. Why I don’t know why.

    anyway quick thoughts on the film and ambush

    I don’t find Ahsoka as annoying as I remember. Last time I would have rewatched the movie was probably 2017 so much has changed since then

    however I must say I completely forgot about the ziro the hutt subplot that is introduced at the end of the film and for good reason. It’s so boring. And kinda just not needed. Like it feels like it was added just to get the film to feature length. I know that wasn’t the case as the film was just 4 episodes stitched together. But still.

    also my god. Comparing the animation from Bad Batch to the movie. Some of it looks god awful. Especially the backgrounds and the ground itself in some scenes just atrocious. Tatooine was one of the worst planets they could have picked for this early. It just looked horrible.

    I actually did laugh at a few jokes on the movie. And the movie included one of my favorite types of shots Star Wars animation rarely does. The first person POV shot. So that added on some extra points.

    I can definitely tell why Rex quickly became my favorite clone wars character and eventually my favorite Star Wars character. He’s just so ****ing cool even this early on and I bet my 8 year old self was obsessed when I watched this in theaters.

    Anyway something I want to figure out is objectively what is my favorite Star Wars animated show. So I am going to rate these. I don’t know if I will post thoughts on every episode. I may also bank them and lost once a week or I may give up on this whole thing tomorrow who knows.

    Clone wars movie gets a 7.456


    Now Ambush on the other hand is about the same animation gripes are the same.

    it also includes one of my lesser liked tropes. The fakeout from king Kutonko where he goes “that won’t be necessary my friend” and pulls out his sword like he will attack. Really annoys me. Luckily it didn’t last long.

    the episode had some good clone moments though but I am going to rate it less than the movie

    7.137

    Also if you can’t tell unless there is something that really sticks out to me my thoughts will mostly be on why episodes aren’t higher rated.


    Okay episode 2 rising malevolence

    this episode was much better than ambush and I didn’t hate ambush

    something I noticed that I really like the gas giant or is it a star the animation makes it harder to tell. Anyway you can see it have different layers on up close shots. So major props for adding that as it looked really cool

    also I have to hand it to Kliner some of the music in this episode was peak.



    honestly the malevolence is such a cool ship.

    there isn’t much to hate about this episode all things considered.

    plus it features some good moments of sass from Obi Wan. And I like Obi WAN’s sass he has earned it.

    8.678 out of 10
     
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  3. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Another day another review


    So I watched the Shadow of the malevolence


    2 jokes in this episode got an audible chuckle out of me.


    the first was when Anakin says about the giant space creatures.

    Ahsoka: that one looks pretty hungry

    Anakin: Nah he’s just smiling g at you


    second joke was

    Ahsoka: Changing course was my idea

    Anakin: that’s partially true

    Plo Koon: from a certain point of view


    both are hilarious the second one because that line has been joked about so much.


    also I completely forgot Nala Se appears this early in TCW. I mean in this episode we have no clue who she is, but her characterization of being much more caring towards clones in this episode doesn’t jive well with what she is up to in season 6 and the bad batch where the only clone she cares about at all is Omega.


    not that surprising it changed as she didn’t appear from 2008 all the way to 2013 or did season 6 come out in ‘14


    also a little nit pick I noticed. At this point the republic has about a million clones and somehow 60,000 are injured at this one medical station. That’s 6% and the war had only been going on for like 1 or 2 months by this point. How the hell is that sustainable. Although then again maybe this is the only medical station the republic has. That is kinda implied in the episode. But that would also be a bad idea.


    anyway overall I give this episode an 8.076

    okay also just finished destroy Malevolence

    This episode had two moments which made me laugh. Anakin and Obi Wan dock with the ship and Obi Wan says “spinning is not flying” Anakin of course replies with “it’s a good trick”

    the second time I laughed was when Obi Wan said it’s time for some fancy tricks while Anakin is flying and Anakin spins the Twilight. A good call back if I have ever seen one.

    also I forgot how much Dooku appears in basically cameo roles in early TCW.

    I do wonder was this the first time Grevious and Obi Wan meet? Also canonically Grevious said Hello there first.

    not much noteworthy about this episode. I just liked it.

    8.273 out of 10
     
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  4. Happy Sando

    Happy Sando Jedi Master star 4

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    I always felt like the Malevolence trilogy was an arc of steadily diminishing returns, but that's only because I adore its first episode so much. Over the years, I've come to enjoy bits and pieces of the second and third episodes a lot more (particularly the idea of a ship so vast, it has its own internal railway) but I still reckon it peaks early. The stuff with Master Plo and the Wolfpack delivers on the promise of The Clone Wars in spades, adding character and depth to the prequels' set dressing.

    Really looking forward to more of these write-ups!
     
  5. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    That is a can of worms that's best sealed shut and send down the trash compactor.
     
  6. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Also just an aside I always thought it was a shame that the twilight was basically abandoned after season 1 and was unceremoniously destroyed in the Lawless arc. Would have loved for it to stick around and be used more throughout the show.

    @Todd the Jedi your totally correct. Numbers of troops and ships is a whole mess and always has been in Star Wars. My problem was really two fold. One the numbers not making sense and two why the republic would have that many injured clones in one place. Seems like a juicy target. I mean just look at recent wars. You’d think it would have been best to have things be a tad more spread out.

    sure it can hurt and strain supply lines but I think having 3 medical stations with 20,000 people instead of 1 with 60 would make more sense.

    then again this is a kids show so I always keep that in the back of my head.

    I would be less scrutinizing of this than say Mando.
     
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  7. Force Nexus

    Force Nexus Jedi Master star 4

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    Mando is more of a "kids show" than Clone Wars ever was.
     
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  8. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I am talking solely based off Ratings. Mando is TV14 TCW is TV PG

    I do get what you mean. I think the animated shows have dealt with more mature subjects than the live action shows, but I also think that’s slightly to do with the fact that there have been like 50 something live action episodes and 200+ animated episodes of Star Wars.

    even though I prefer the animated shows, I still think the Live action stuff is great and also deals with fascinating things.
     
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  9. Force Nexus

    Force Nexus Jedi Master star 4

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    TCW is TV-PG V. And unless I am mistaken, it is the first Western animated show with this rating, and one of the few to have ever existed with this rating. The only other animated shows with TV-PG V rating that aired on television at the time were Japanese anime, which were generally more edgy and geared towards adult audiences. It is the equivalent of PG-13, basically.
    Mando is TV-14 only because it's live-action. There is nothing in it to warrant that rating. It is neutered in virtually every way.
     
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  10. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I am curious. To google I go.

    I just checked around I couldn’t find anything on it being the first but season 7 definitely has a TV-PG-V rating season 6 just has the TV-PG. what I completely forgot about was that Rebels stayed at a consistent TV-Y7 which is very surprising. Resistance as well is TV-Y7 and finally Bad batch has been consistently rated TV-PG-V which makes sense they did have two separate people take the Star Wars equivalent of a cyanide pill.

    Lol you can get a TV-PG-DLSV warning which I don’t know why it exists. D-Suggestive dialogue L-Course Language S-sexual situations V-Violence
    Isn’t that just TV-14.

    basically this has taught me even more that ratings don’t make a lick of sense
     
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  11. Watto

    Watto Force Ghost star 4

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    They did pick up on this as a plot point in the Padme trilogy of episodes that begins chronologically with "Pursuit of Peace." Senators are pushing for the creation of more Clones since they are running out and Padme is pushing against continuing the war. So at least there's that.
     
  12. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm more referring to some ancient fan debates over clone numbers and some particularly nasty chapters of JCF history. Contentious doesn't begin to describe that topic back in the day.
     
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  13. Seerow

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    Padme's episodes make a really good case for Chronological viewing, Making arbitrary numbers such as 60,000 injured troopers seem less like a throwaway line. The Clone Troopers were bred to die in the war and no republic citizen wants to enlist in their place as a senator puts it very bluntly to Padme. That is the main thing justifying their expense. We can tie what The Bad Batch series has revealed into this since it sure does look like Kamino was working toward selling the Republic a 2.0 improved version of the Jango clones even without a new template being provided.

    In the last episode in Padme's trio "Senate Murders" we have the Umbaran Senator get murdered which probably leads to the invasion of Umbara where a Rogue Jedi basically throws away countless of these expensive Clones. Additionally, I've always found it interesting ARC Troopers takes place between the Malevolence arc and Padme's trio. Where the CIS invading Kamino even if unsuccessful surely looks bad and probably enhanced the urgency of wanting to beef up Clone numbers. When tied together I think it subtly shows the plot against the Jedi.
     
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  14. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    So I watched Rookies s1:5

    I absolutely loved this episode as a kid and I still love it now

    • This episode solidified my love of clones as a kid and I can see why. Hevy is badass as hell
    • First thing that got me to laugh in the episode was Cutup dying and echo replying “that’s why we don’t go outside the base”
    • second thing that made me chuckle was just how the commando droids acted when pretending to be clones.
    • Loved how this episode tied into the end of the last with Anakin being upset that he didn’t capture Grevious
    • There was two POV shots in this episode very quick maybe 1-2 seconds each, but man it’s one of my favorite shots they do in these shows. I absolutely love them.

      Nitpick
    • How the hell do Commando droids fit into clone suits when they only have three fingers and clones have five lol
    • Overall I rate this episode a 9.257 definitely one of the better episodes of the first season from what I recall.

    Downfall of a droid s1:6

    Something I just realized the last 3 episodes act as a very decentralized arc of Anakin trying to track down Grevious and Grevious trying to track down Anakin. This is a reason not to watch in chronological order and watch in release. As Anakin finally face grevious and the same with grevious.

    Not much to say in this. Other than I find it to annoying that R3 screws everything up and no one questions this.


    Also I find Anakin’s plan to be both good and horrible. His plan did cost them a whole venator class Star destroyer. But anytime I get to see an AT-ET I am a happy man.


    Some of the explosion effects are really good this episode. So I will give the episode extra points for that


    also the fat trandoshan that is working for Grevious, his model can be seen in the clone wars movie.


    7.012 only gets a 7 cause of cool explosion animation.


    this episode suffers from basically the same problems as the previous it’s really annoying people don’t figure out R3 is a spy sooner and I think if I recall correctly I found it annoying as a kid.
    • this episode did get one chuckle out of me. That was when Ahsoka talked to Anakin in the hanger when fighting the vulture droids and he gives her the biggest side eye ever. It was honestly hilarious
    • I actually really like how they handle the Ahsoka and Grevious “dual” it’s not one and she has to basically run to survive. So the episode gets props there
    • I also think this episode is the first we see clones start to customize their armor the second clone in blue in this episode I think is the same one Cad Bane kills in season 2 and wears his armor. Daniel if I recall. And no Rex and Cody don’t count.

      this episode gets a 6.000 I just found the R3 “mystery” to drag on way to much.
     
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  15. cwustudent

    cwustudent Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thank you for pointing this out. ^:)^
     
  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Bombad Jedi season 1 Episode 8


    Honestly despite having Jar Jar in it the episode is still good. Better than the last two but not by much. I don’t think I have much to say on this episode other than I find it funny a giant inch worm saved the day.


    Darth Jar Jar was up to some tricks this episode


    And Nute Gunray captured. Thus starts the long multi season arc of capturing the CIS council


    Also I just realized is the Japanese stereotypes of the neimodians done for them because TPM was written in the mid 1990s when America feared a booming Japanese economy. And thought they would be challenging America economically?


    Thus why they lead the trade federation. One of the biggest conglomerates in Star Wars? I feel pretty stupid that I didn’t put that together earlier.


    Also I really liked that they actually referenced Padme’s family in canon. In on screen media.

    7.269

    Cloak of darkness season 1 episode 9


    A good episode but I have a question right off the bat. Why is Ahsoka with Luminara? Where is Barriss? Did Anakin and her just decide to swap padawans for the lols? I like to think so.

    Ventress episodes are always welcome

    Anyway I really love it anytime there is a spy in this show except R3 they still suck. This is how you do a spy episode better


    Also Ahsoka calls Ventress a bog witch so despite her past with the nightsisters not being revealed until seasons later it’s implied here which is cool.


    Also this episode plus the last and the next with grevious act as another loosely related arc this time with Gunray. Despite the show being an anthology. The standalone episodes are tied more together than I remember


    A good episode all around 8.785 out of ten

    Lair of Grevious season 1 episode 10


    This episode makes grevious a lot more menacing. So I am thankful for that


    I also like how this episode begins to show why some Jedi are struggling with the dark side


    Also something I have noticed in this episode and others. The lightsabers in early TCW can sometimes look to glowy if that makes sense. It is distracting

    also this episode contains a quick POV shot from Fisto and I always appreciate those


    The statues of grevious and the lore itself gives this episode my second TCW 9.050 out of ten



    Also I meant last 4 episodes. Since the theme starts with Destroy the Malevolence.
     
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  17. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Episode 11 season 1 Dooku Captured.


    Not much to say about this one other than I love it and I can’t find anything wrong with it. The banter between Obi Wan and Anakin is top notch and Hondo is one of the best side characters ever.


    It gets my first 10.000 out of ten. Now you see why I did 3 decimal places. I bet when all things are said and done 40% of all episodes will have a 9.000 or above rating. As I suck at rating thing’s especially when I see nothing really wrong with it. It’s why I almost never go below a 6 on anything.


    This episode does deserve it though an absolute blast


    Episode 12 the Gungan general


    Again not much to say about this episode other than the humor being on point. Hondo is great and the banter between Dooku and the Jedi is also just an added bonus. My only gripe is the way Senator Kharrus died was dumb as hell


    I would add more but I really have nothing else to say on these last two episodes


    Also just because I don’t mind Binks doesn’t mean I think he should be in as many episodes as he is in. Sometimes he improves episodes sometimes he makes them worse. It’s a very tricky balance. The show strikes it more times than it does not this just wasn’t one of them. And it mostly because of how the senator dies.


    8.349 out of ten


    Season 1 episode 13 Jedi Crash.


    This episode gets a 5.476 The only reason it doesn’t get lower is it has a POV shot twice in it. And that gets it points.


    Why I really ****ing hate this episode is the pacifism and neutrality the leader is all about. If I recall correctly he is proven wrong next episode, but my god. The line “what does it matter who started the war” “I’ll only trust you when you put down your weapons and discuss peace”


    Actually **** that. I hate this type of pacifism in real life to. Oh it doesn’t matter that one side is clearly the aggressor? **** you. Yes it does.


    Neutrality and Pacifism is never the answer in the face of something so evil as the separatists.


    God the more I talk about this the more annoyed I get. Nah **** it this is probably going to be my lowest rated episode of any episode in this rewatch. But the fact this wasn’t shot down immediately in the episode by the Jedi I just can’t.


    Violence can be an answer if peace fails and the fact that anyone would ever be idiotic enough not to see that in a fictional universe or our own will never not fail to piss me off.


    Basically to sum it up **** that lemur in particular. He can take his pacifism and shove it


    5.476 out of ten. I give it such a low rating because I want to stress how much I hated this without saying the whole episode was a wash. There is some good. If the dude didn’t mention the dumbest argument ever I would have probably given it a high 7


    Just please make characters smarter than this.

    Defenders of peace season 1 episode 14


    At least the son has some sense. You should be able to defend yourself if attacked and help those who are attacked unprovoked. But man the fact that someone would be so idiotic as to say I would rather die than fight is beyond me. I just wish they didn’t make the character so stubborn over something so stupid. The fact they learned their lesson will bump this episode up. But just barely as it shouldn’t have been a lesson literally no one would need to learn. Even when I was 9 I thought this was dumb as hell. And I think it’s incredibly stupid today. And deadly.


    This has got to be one of the stupidest characters in this show. Maybe all of Star Wars.

    it was cool seeing that separatist alien character that was also in Skytop station. So at least the episode had that going for it

    6.478 out of ten

    Season 1 episode 15 Trespass


    This episode dealt with messages about war much better than the last. And I like it a lot more, but man Lucas wasn’t slick making the Pantoran’s have South African accents.


    Also this is the first episode where the 501st all have blue markings.


    I do wonder how 3PO can speak Talz unless the Talz aren’t native to the planet and just got stuck there hundreds if not thousands of years ago.


    Also Chuchi definitely still fits her characterization in the bad batch


    8.836 out of ten

    Season 1 episode 16 hidden enemy


    Slick is right. I want to use this review to talk about why he is right.


    The clones are slaves made for one purpose. Whose life has been artificially shortened for one purpose. To serve the Jedi and later kill the Jedi. If I was a clone and that thought happened I wouldn’t rest until I was free either. I think it’s a shame slick doesn’t appear in anything later. I am sure he was executed. But he’s totally right. He’s just wrong that the CIS would give him his or his brothers freedom.


    Man I absolutely love clone focused episodes.



    Little nitpick Kenobi calls Commander cody a captain instead of a commander.


    9.300 out of ten.


    Season 1 episode 17 blue shadow virus


    Dr Vindi is one of the most Saturday morning cartoon villians in Star Wars cartoon history. It’s so over the top. But the episode does suspense really well. So the episode does get points there


    So this episode gets a 6.850 out of ten

    Season 1 episode 18 mystery of a thousand moons


    Jaybo is probably my favorite one of TCW character he’s just so chill wish we would see him again in something


    I am glad we didn’t have much of Vindi in this episode as he is far too cartoonishly evil for me.


    Also Jar Jar with a gun. You couldn’t come up with something more terrifying if you tried. No wonder Rex hated the idea


    Also the episode ended with one of Ashoka’s iconic eye rolls.


    Also the image of Anakin with that little shovel he has on Iego is just hilarious


    8.257 out of ten

    Season 1 episode 19 storm over Ryloth


    I think this is the first episode I really liked Ahsoka in. The rest I have been mostly okay with her character, but I really liked her in this one.


    Also I must say ramming a Star destroyer into a capital ship is a very Anakin thing to do.


    Also while we barely see him I always like it when Yularen appears. It’s a shame he decided to run the secret police of the empire


    If I recall there was controversy at the time cause the move Ahsoka pulled was a similar one Thrawn does in his books. Which is stupid. Two people can independently come up with the same idea.


    Episode gets a 9.127 out of ten

    Season 1 episode 20 innocences of Ryloth


    “Who knew clones were so Paternal”-Dr Hemlock


    Not much else to say. Really when episodes don’t blow me away and are just great I don’t have much to say.


    Always love a good clone episode


    9.256 out of ten

    Season 1 episode 21 liberty on Ryloth


    I like how Cham just has some random daughter we never see again in this episode. Guess Hera has a sister. Or perhaps it is just some family friend


    I think out of everyone so far on the show Mace has shown the most strength with the force which makes sense


    Also I see the seperatists now have the arc of the covenant.


    8.567 out of ten again good but not really wowing me. Like a 9 or above should




    Season 1 episode 22 hostage crisis


    Cad Mother****ing Bane he’s such a great character and this episode makes him a real menace.


    Also a nice continuation of some TCW movie plot stuff.


    Seriously this is how you introduce a villian. I have no notes and no complaints.


    10/10

    Thoughts overall on season 1. It’s a lot more connected than I remember it being. Some of the morals are a bit to in your face and a bit to stupid. I am specifically talking about Jedi crash here. I really thought of giving it a 5.4, but I think that would have been giving it to much hate.

    even this early on while there are some duds there are some really special episodes like Dooku captured, Rookies, Innocence of Ryloth and Holocron Heist. All episodes I thought of giving 10/10s. I do expect to give more out as the rewatch continues

    edit: Retroactively gave Jedi Crash a lower rating cause it’s far worse than R3 being a spy.

    Ahsoka also really grew on me thanks to rewatching storm over Ryloth.

    so this episodes brings back Bane. I think the team at Lucasfilm knew they had a fan favorite of them when they were working on him in season 1 and they were right.

    Also our favorite loveable explosive droid appears Todo!

    It’s cool seeing a changeling from AOTC. I have a feeling Bane was like I should hire Zam Wessel. Oh she’s dead? Who’s the next best thing?

    My one problem with this episode is how are the Jedi so naive as to think no one would want to steal a holocron?

    Bane is badass that’s all to really say about it.8.899 out of ten

    Also I may start doing these by dictation as it took me an extra hour to write out all these reviews. That’s 3 more episodes I could have watched.
     
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  18. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    @Jedi Knight Fett how come you are not watching the episodes in chronological order?
    https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder

    On topic:

    I just watched Cat and Mouse, that episode from Season 3 that is chronologically first, even before the events of the Clone Wars theatrical release. And even though I have watched all of them before, I still wonder how it is possible to see Admiral Trench die during the episode, when he also appears in Season 7 (and we see him die again)?

    Anyone have a good answer before I google stuff?
     
  19. Happy Sando

    Happy Sando Jedi Master star 4

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    "Storm Over Ryloth" is absolutely the first major turning point for Ahsoka's arc. I often see folks dismissing the entirety of the show's first season as skippable, but it lays so much groundwork for what's to come, and provides a contextual starting point for a lot of important developments. That whole Ryloth trilogy is such a great statement of intent; you get a crucial Ahsoka episode, a crucial Clone episode, and then a crucial conclusion offering some socio-political insight to the war and the state of the galaxy, all whilst tracking an entire planetary campaign from start to finish. It's freakin' wizard.

    @Master Jedi Fixxxer Trench is part-cyborg when he returns; at least half his head and some of his limbs are metallic. He wouldn't be the first person in Star Wars to get retrieved, revived and rebuilt. Maybe he's considered such a good strategist that the Separatists sent a probe droid out into the wreckage, to fetch him?
     
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  20. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    I see....thank you! And all of this happened after the entire bridge was hit with 4 proton torpedoes and exploded in a million pieces at who knows how many dozens of thousands of Kelvin [face_laugh]

    Ok at this point nothing surprises me anymore, I have made my peace with completely non-sensical revivals in Star Wars :p
    At least this one is inconsequential when it comes to the big picture, as opposed to many others.
     
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  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Oh why am I not? I am just lazy and I forgot to do so. By the time I had remembered I could have I was already on ambush and I felt like I would have to rewatch the TCW movie and honestly despite me not hating it. I like it. I did not want to watch it again so soon. So I just kept going. It’s not that confusing. Take hidden enemy. It’s very obvious from the start that is a prequel to the movie.

    Plus this way I can enjoy it the way I did as a kid. Which helps bring back memories better

    speaking about memories. If I recall correctly there was a sneak peak at season 2 at the end of season 1 and that got me super stoked I ended up stubbing my toe and telling my friend to **** off. Cause he was laughing. Now you may find it strange a 9 year old knows the context of how to say **** properly, but I have seen a 5 year old tell a councilor to **** off. Children know a lot of things.

    Edit: another clone wars memory has come back to me. my therapist when I was 8-14 who I would see once a month. Looked shockingly like Dave Filoni without a hat. He watched the clone wars with his son as I recall. So if we ever ran out of things to discuss I would discuss it with him. To run out of time lol. And when I mean he looked like Dave Filoni. He really looked like Dave Filoni.

    He was the one who put me onto watching TCW on StarWars.com minus the final. Went to my friends house for that.

    edit: I found the sneak peak
     
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  22. Happy Sando

    Happy Sando Jedi Master star 4

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    Out of curiosity, I risked that Google rabbit hole you wanted to avoid and found passing mentions of his species' hardy biology and some kind of pressure suit; in other words, they didn't have a better explanation, either. Seems like it was just a case of, "Hey, remember that cool baddie we had? Let's use him again!" "Didn't he die?" "And this is Star Wars we're talking about here, so your point is...?" "Oh, okay. Never mind, then."

    But he also survived two ship vaporisations so hey, at least they kinda made it his 'thing'...?
     
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  23. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Somehow Trench returned!

    I guess Luke's gonna have to make another run.

    You might remember the episodes and their plots better than me, but I generally never really placed them anywhere in the timeline as I was watching them when they came out. And I have watched them twice, but still. I also watched them in my late 20s and early 30s, and those things tend to make an impression a lot more when you're a kid/teenager. In my case, I just....watched them and had fun, never really bothered to even think if they're in the correct order or anything.

    Having said that, now that I am watching the whole show chronologically, I just realized that the first 25 minutes of the theatrical run are essentially the third and last part of the Christophsis arc. And the whole Jabba's kid kidnap arc doesn't really start until 25 minutes into the movie. So the movie is like 4 Clone Wars episodes, 3 of which are the main arc.
     
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    Season 2 episode 2 Cargo of Doom


    So this episode features the first clone to die after featuring in two or more episodes that weren’t prequels. Sorry Domino Squad.


    Daniel that clone trooper with the two face markings in blue also appeared in the R3 Duology.


    Bane continues to be a serious threat which is great.


    Also I realized what throws me about the animation in early seasons. Sometimes if a shot is quick enough I feel like they almost don’t fully animate it and it just makes human faces look even worse. Although the second season is already better than the first which is to be expected.


    This episode also features a POV shot the first one to also feature a clone HUD in the shot so double points for that.


    9.123 out of ten

    Season 2 episode 3 children of the force


    Palpatine has wanted an army of force sensitives for a long time. It’s ironic if Palpatine had just made a copy of the list the whole plot of Fallen Order and the first arc of the Darth Vader comic wouldn’t have happened as both dealt with this very same list of force sensitives. This is why it’s important to make copies



    Bane is as slippery as he is blue


    Also I have to wonder for the kids who hadn’t seen episode 3 yet or only watched the clone wars. Could they not put two and two together that Palpatine and Sidious were the same person. I mean I bet some of them couldn’t as some people couldn’t in the movies. And thought Sidious and Palpatine were two seperate people.


    A good episode but not a wow episode 8.459 out of ten

    Season 2 episode 4 senate spy


    Can I just say both Anakin and Clovis suck ass as boyfriend material. Padme may have one of the worst taste in men I have ever seen.


    She cannot detect a red flag to save her life. Literally.


    Also maybe it’s explained in another episode, but how the hell did Clovis talk his way out of not being killed.


    Also like how this works as a political prequel to the following episodes. It feels different enough that it doesn’t make the arc drag out.


    Anyway I give Padme’s taste in men a 1/10 and this episode an 8.236 out of ten.

    *Also correction Rookies had the first POV shot with actual HUD elements
     
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    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Season 2 episode 5 landing at point rain


    Now that I think about it this is probably the longest episode title in TCW


    Anyway what this episode does really well is action and animation. Definitely the best animated episode yet


    If I recall correctly this is the biggest battle we have seen for long periods of time since the battle of Christophisis


    Also I found it funny that Mundi says to Yularen there is no such thing as luck and within the very same episode he says with any luck we will meet up with Skywalker


    Also it’s cool being back on Geonisis where it all started. Cody was right the arena fight was entertaining for the audience


    Anyway I give this episode a 9.136 out of ten cause of the animation improvement.

    Season 2 episode 6 weapons factory


    Another key episode for Ahsoka’s development. While I think this rewatch will do me good for liking her more I still doubt she’ll break my top ten of Star Wars characters. I think I was just more easily annoyed as a child. And I am slow to change my mind on anything.


    It’s why I probably liked Ezra and Omega more even in their early seasons. Cause they were originally less annoying. Sorry Kaz you’re still annoying.



    This episode also reinforces the point Yoda made during the movie. That Anakin will need to learn to let go. But he never can. That’s anakin’s undoing. He is far to possessive and obsessive if both Padme and Ahsoka and Obi Wan as seen in the Rako Hardeen arc


    Also I like how Ahsoka and Barriss contrast with each other. I wonder if Barriss has a confirmed age? She’s definitely older than Ahsoka. My best guess is she’s 16 and Ahsoka is still 14 at this point.


    This episode gets a 10/10 again solely on the grounds of character development. And a reminder of Anakin’s greatest flaw.


    Also of note I think this episode has Ahsoka’s first kill of a sentient being. Not that any sort of deal was made about it.


    I will almost certainly bring this up again but my god how much has the Jedi Order and the republic have fallen when they are sending 14 and 16 year olds out to go fight wars.


    It keeps getting worse as the war goes on as Padawans get younger and younger.


    Hell Cal Kestis I think if I recall is something like 11 when he gets taken as a Padawan. And is only 13 when order 66 happens.


    Basically I am saying the Jedi order kinda sucks. And the child soldier aspect of the padawans is not touched on enough. Hell the only place I know it’s touched on at all is Survivor, but even there it’s barely talked about.


    So again 10/10


    No flaws in the episode and it’s one of those wow episodes


    How some people say the first two seasons can be skipped is beyond me. They cannot. And are key to making characters like Rex and Ahsoka and even Anakin more likeable.

    Season two episode seven Legacy of terror


    There are a lot more POV shots in this show than I recall. From here on out I will only comment on them if they include something extra cool but just know they are still factored into my rating as I absolutely love the shot


    Anyway this is a good Halloween episode along with the next


    I remember watching this episode the last time I would ever go to my best friends house. He loved Star Wars more than me and he was moving away in a couple days. It’s a shame what happened to him after this. (He became a complete ass last I checked him out on Facebook) but at least I have this last memory of him.


    Also this is some of the best Obi Wan and Anakin banter of the series. Study the bottom of my boot will never not be funny


    9.000 out of ten


    Season two episode eight brain invaders


    Another good Halloween episode really also helps to establish Barriss and Ahsoka as friends along with weapons factory earlier in the season


    Ahsoka probably would have saved a hell of a lot of time if she just killed Barriss here knowing what happened in season 5, but ironically the decision to not kill her here ended up saving her life. She almost certainly would have died if she didn’t leave the order.


    Also only Barriss kills a clone in this episode. Ahsoka only wounds one


    Also what do the clones mean by if clones know anything it’s how to kill a Jedi? Just leaving that out there.


    Also when Obi Wan says “Ahsoka is following orders as well as you do” Rex makes a little smirk towards Anakin and that got me a good chuckle.


    My only gripe is where the hell did Sythe find enough eggs to fill up a whole backpack worth?


    8.269 out of ten


    Season 2 episode 9 grevious intrigue


    They really should have let Grevious kill Eeth Koth. Him killing a council member who is gone by episode 3 kind you would have really cemented him as a threat in the show


    It’s ironic not that long after this Eeth Koth actually leaves the Jedi Order. Has a kid and becomes a priest. Vader kills hon shortly after Order 66


    I really forgot this episode existed and for good reason. The action is fine, but this all just seemed like overly long setup for the goodness of the next episode the deserter


    This episode so far is my lowest rated of the season 7.089 out of ten


    Season 2 episode 10 the Deserter


    I think you guys already knew I was gonna love this episode


    It’s going to get a 10/10 because god if I didn’t like Rex already I loved him after this episode.


    I don’t have much to say on this one other than this episode plus later Umbara and of course all the little moments in between are the reason why Rex is my favorite character. I grew up thinking he was an absolute badass and just more free thinking than the other clones.


    Also Cut Lawquane is a great character. I believe in some other material I read his daughter here eventually wrote a book about him and he was referenced in the aftermath trilogy. I Stan a family man.


    God I could gush about him for hours.


    Rex is that guy.

    10/10 because clone focused episodes get a 9/10 automatically and this episode is a wow factor episode despite there being a glaring continuity error. Grevious doesn’t have a cape at the end of last episode he does in this episode. Does he just store them in escape pods on his ships?


    10/10 for Cut Lawquane and Rex and Grevious’s magically appearing capes

    Season 2 episode 11 lightsaber lost


    So last episode we had a great character episode this episode not so much. It’s not like any of the characters were bad in this they just didn’t show anything new about their characters. Ahsoka has a whole episode to herself and what happens? Nothing really and that is the problem.


    I don’t hate the episode. If I hated it I would be giving it a bad grade it’s just like I felt they wasted potential with this episode. At least Sinube was cool. If not a stereotype of every old person ever


    Most interesting part of the episode was when Sinube talks to the girlfriend. That was actually interesting and what saves this episode from getting a low 6 something


    6.825 out of ten

    to add to lightsaber lost. It’s one of those episodes where I am checking how much time is left and that is what really makes it a 6 something
     
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