Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Undoubtedly.

In particular, it has been noted that the Eye of Scion used 7 SSD cores for its hyperdrive, but the corellian yards apparently sold nine, opening the possibility the remnant might be hiding a working SSD somewhere. It would be quite the sight to see in action.

 

Or perhaps an Eclipse, I've always preferred that design over the Executor. But it doesn't really fit Thrawn's style imo.

 

Well, some of them could have been legit, just for appearances sake.

 

There are fan done cross sections of the Moldy Crow and Ravens Claw that look real good...but if you search them be aware that the RC does take a shot at the Sequel Trilogy with Kyle killing those characters.

Here's the one for the Moldy Crow...https://www.deviantart.com/matmoura/art/The-Moldy-Crow-599703244

 

There's a possible the Eye of Sion is using 9 hyperspace cores.
The show mentions 7 hyperspace engines, but the hyperspace core is only one part of each engine and it is possible that one or two of the engines have more than one hyperspace core. Also in the current episode the ship has to calculate 9 coordinates, the same number as the hyperspace cores.

 

Based on all the detailed scaling stuff we've been given in Ahsoka - which @Ton_G, the fandom's most gentlemanly fleet afficionado, has been doing great work with... the new cruisers work out at roughly 1.2km (!) and the Home One is several times that size...

... but the think that's cracking me up is the way they've gone about it...

For one thing, I suspect they've pushed out the seating in the briefing room away from the central console, in order to bulk out the width of the bridge pod a little to match the expected scale... but I'm not sure of that, and any input is welcome...

But also, and more entertainingly, they've messed around with the hangar configuration - in Return of the Jedi, the hangar interior (a matte painting) doesn't match the hangar exterior (a physical model) very comfortably, and I've argued in the past that it also doesn't give strong scaling support to a very large hull-size, or provide terribly comfortable headroom for Tydirium... but what they've done here is swap the RotJ hangar interior round to one of the two hangars on the opposite side of the ship, proportionally much smaller compared to the length of the hull... which forces the scaling ballpark right up...

You just have to assume that there's a pacing cut in Jedi (at about 35 seconds in the video linked below), concealing the fact that Tydirium actually relocated from one of the smaller port hangars, through a complex of internal fighter bays indicated in the matte paintings and ICS, to leave from the larger hangar on the starboard side...



I think that's both hilarious and completely brilliant!

And if I said "two whole decks of internal hangars with superb headroom", I'm sure Admiral would get the reference...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

This is the first I've heard of the 1.2km estimate (though it sounds about right). Do you happen to have the original source?

 

I just saw that video that someone posted a couple pages back, where the Home One is bigger than an ISD.

 

They are both really cool. But yeah, surprised they'd add that to the Raven's Claw one. ST opinions aside, it detracts from the image to no real benefit.

I'm surprised I can't find any Ebon Hawk ones

 

There will be some new cross sections in this book coming out in December....

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Dawn_of_Rebellion:_The_Visual_Guide

 

This guy has done excellent cross-section art for the Razor Crest, the ITT and the "raider AT-ST":
https://www.behance.net/maxdwork

Edit: also it was just confirmed that the upcoming visual guide will only have one new cross sections art, the Fondor haulcraft.

 

I find that extremely disappointing and annoying. There are so many ships that were in both Kenobi and Andor.

 

So long as they get class and name identities, that's all I really care about. Cross-sections can come later.

 

I really like the better sense we get of the ships with the cross sections...even if it is a ships as simple as the light shuttle Tala uses in Kenobi.

 

Welp, we probably won't get any basic information on the Vesper-types for a few years. It's especially depressing when you see the Trek folks drop truckloads of art and info on every ship after each episode. SW just doesn't seem to care.

 

I like cross sections because the two pages spreads "force" the writers to put in more paragraphs and details (such as the little boxes with informations such as crew, passengers etc.), the sections for the Zeta-class shuttle and the Occupier tank in the Rogue One guide were excellent for example.
The "TIE-fighters" section that they revealed recently was a bit luckluster in terms of informations, but hopefully that's just because all those ships were already featured in other books.

 

Stuff like that should be on the official site when they do the episode guides after the show drops. A screenshot from the show with the caption "Captain Hayle commands the New Republic whatchamacallit-class cruiser Vesper"

That too..give me manufacturer, model and name...like the Incom I-7 Howlrunner. Give me name of parts like the A-Wing has Dymek HM-5 missile launchers. Give me a story behind them as well

 

There's something a bit off with Home One in the last episode. During the scene where the Ghost leaves the ship, we see it leaving from what should be the main hangar, but as the camera moves backwards a second similar sized hangar appears(something that should only be on the opposite side of the ship).
Initially I thought that they had just mirrored the port hangar bays, possibly because they hadn't modeled the main hangar (it should be a bit different in size and layout to the port side hangars), but after looking at the position of bumps and details on the ship, I realised they mirrored the whole ship, so the port side was now the starboard.

Here's a comparison image.

This shows how many of the blisters are on the wrong side of the ship (most noticeably on the nose), and the extra bulge on the side where the main hangar is situated is missing.

 

Maybe Home One underwent a refit in the past five-six years since Endor and received new blisters.

 

There seems to be a disconnect between ILM and the story group. Home One's clearly 3+km long, yet the official numbers are not only gross underestimates, but are also widely inconsistent. I'm concerned something similar will happen with the Vesper-types.

Speaking of Home One, we don't see Ackbar. I'd love to see him show up aboard Defiance.

 

At this point I would say Ackbar is hating life by being stuck in some military headquarters on the capital. Or he is retired.

 

Maybe he's bored out of his mind, sitting inside his ship endlessly orbiting the capital. We've yet to see the Home Fleet after all.

 

Could it be that the model was originally made to represent a "random MC80A" from TROS or something and was later reused for the Home One with no modifications?

The Sphyrna and Arquitens class mistakes were particularly annoying but I'm glad that they were eventually fixed, so there's still hope for the Home One.

The "updated" Complete Vehicles by Pablo Hidalgo would have been a perfect opportunity to fix these mistakes and acknowledge stuff like the Providence and Recusant's larger variants from TCW, but it ended up removing more text from the old editions than it added. Oh well..

 

According to the The Force Awakens: The Visual Dictionary, Ackbar retired following the Battle of Jakku and then only came out of Retirement after Leia persuaded him to join the Resistance.

 

Wookieepedia's still taking the approach that the "SW Rebels Arquitens" is only 230m

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Arquitens-class_command_cruiser

and that the TCW Arquitens is 325m

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Arquitens-class_light_cruiser

and that

"Gideon's ship" is 381m:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Class_546_Cruiser

despite the fact that it doesn't make much sense for a "model modified for greater speed"

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Class_546_program

to be over 50% longer than the basic Rebels-era model, or for the Rebels-era Arquitens to be only 70% of the length of the TCW Arquitens.