Ahsoka Ahsoka Episode 1.05 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

She had both light sabers attached to her waist when she was rescued from the ocean....
So she got knocked off the cliff, re-holstered her saber, then went unconscious?

 

The latter. I’d rather Mothma not set up a paramilitary organization.

 

The aforementioned complacent, selfish politicians are greedy

 

Oh. But I don’t remember any of them acting greedy or saying anything that implied greed as a motive. Is that just some kind of pablum perspective on politicians or something? I don’t get it.

As shown in Ahsoka, the NR political leadership just seems overly isolationist. Reluctant to commit resources to military missions without sufficient evidence of a threat, and more focused on devoting resources to internal matters/ assistance to New Republic citizens. If this was the real world, their perspective would be shared by many on the left and right of the political spectrum, actually. But due to how it’s presented, they just seem willfully ignorant.

 

I've settled on a nine.

Looks like Rex's helmet is bothering me more than it should. Stupid brain.

 

Brains are like that.

 

I gave this a perfect score of 10/10. Soo good.

 

I think “soul in the WBW” and therefore her body is able to persist for so long. We also don’t know how long Ahsoka was actually submerged. She wakes up underwater. But she could’ve been floating on top for a while before sinking. It’s a mystery.

 

The human brain never ceases to disappoint me.

 

strange, noodley grey matter.

 

So at the risk of being hounded out of town, I am not very impressed thus far.

But I think that I am not the target audience here as I have not seen TCW nor Rebels.
I have seen most of Mandalorian and all of Book of Boba Fett.
So a lot of these characters I have no idea who they are.
Ahsoka I did know but no real connection to.
PT Anakin I did know quite well but there the problem was that I did not like him much in AotC and only a bit more in RotS.

So several strikes against me I think.
The series likely has lots of member-berries for people that have seen TCW and Rebels but as I have not, they do little for me.

But it is nice to see the Kurgan, Titus Pullo and Crowley in a SW series.

I can follow the story ok, bunch of concepts are new and some not really explained.
As for characters, I found a number of the good guys to be rather stupid time and again.
The two fallen Jedi are thus far the most interesting.

Will keep watching to see what happens but if I have to guess, Sabine was stupid in the first ep and stupid again in the 4th one and she will keep being stupid but her being stupid is what saves the day at the end.

Overall, not even close to Andor in terms of quality but then not quite fair to compare a full season with a partial one.

Bye for now.
Old Stoneface

 

I think it's different to separate Andor and Ahsoka in terms of quality per se. They are different beasts going for slightly different things. I can see why one may have a preference for one over the other, and they have different qualities... but I think they are on a par in terms of quality SW TV content.

 

I also noticed that...and took that in as one more point in favor of it all being real and not only a near death experience created by Ahsoka's brain while she was drowning...she would not have her sabers with her If it was the case right? Even if also in the WBW she looses her sabers in the end so...I am rolling with the Force and Anakin/The Father did that

 

It's as reasonable a theory as any.

My main takeaway: The Force intervened to save her from dying.

As you say, it's a mystery as to specifically how.

 

The Force answers all. Obviously the Force reattached the lightsabers or WBW Anakin put them back on her belt.

 

It does seem willfully ignorant. A logical workaround we’re not seeing is that these are elected officials and the voters after the fall of the empire are very anti-war and anti-aggression. They just want last it. The politicians winning elections are the ones not pursing military escalation. It also makes it a strength for a politician getting elected to have not served a military role during the rebellion.

Leia makes the most sense setting that up to me. I do wonder if Leia setting up or getting involved with the Resistance is in response to Kylo Ren wiping out the Jedi Academy and Luke going into exile. So it is something that happens later and the cause for Leia to give up on finding a solution through the government and take matters into her own hands because she recognized without a doubt the dire situation coming that the New Republic is ignoring.

 

8/10 for me. Christensen is so good, amazing how he can command a scene in subtle ways. Space whale thing was cool too, but I'm not entirely as hooked on all the Rebels stuff as I feel maybe I'm supposed to be at this point in the story.

 

They are different beasts going for very different things (political realism vs. mythic resonance). And both do a masterful job of it. Yes, one can love both Andor and Ahsoka. If you simply recognize that they have very different goals, and as such, very different styles.

 

Actually, it's my eye for detail that should be held responsible. If I didn't spot such minor, trivial mistakes in the first place, then my sense of obsessive perfectionism might have starved to death years ago. Oh well, one can dream.

 

What's really amazing about Hayden's performance is that he makes me believe he's been involved in portraying Anakin's relationship with Ahsoka all along. I mean, I'd almost buy it if he told me that he was really the one who voiced Anakin in TCW. It's just that effortless - and at the same time, he is totally the Anakin I know from ROTS, minus the anguish.
Perhaps that says something about how appropriate TCW's portrayal of Anakin actually was, but it says a lot about what a pro Hayden is. It's widely known that he binged TCW, Rebels and all of the live action movies to prepare for his return to Star Wars and you can tell from his performance here that he knows exactly what Anakin was like during the Clone Wars and what his relationship with Ahsoka was.
Hayden is the complete Anakin Skywalker in live action and nothing could have felt more natural. He owns this role and that's a beautiful thing to see.

 

Since Ahsoka doesn't know where the whales will take her does that mean when she raised her hand and closed he eyes she was just pretending to know what the whales were thinking?

 

@Todd the Jedi It's about that time for a new thread! Get the hype train rolling

 

But in space fantasy, why would anyone care about such pointless details?

Why are we surprised that citizens and politicians are willfully ignorant? Again, I ask you to look at the United States where half the country at least pretend climate change is not real.

And similarly, about 40% at least don't want to support NATO or Ukraine against Russian aggression, and meanwhile, the House leadership is creating a fake investigation into the president.

Why should the New Republic be any different from the world's "greatest" democracy?

 

Interesting stuff from Hayden at 0:44

 

You need to read Bloodline. It answers all your questions re the formation of the Resistance