Some Deadline analysis. The full article covers a number of topics, but the part that uses the number of wide releases is an interesting way to gauge the year vs last year: “We should be nervous about the first half of 2024,” sweats one studio exec who wanted to speak confidentially to Deadline. “There’s no way that a labor stoppage as prolonged as chaotic as this wasn’t going to have consequences,” the suit explains. “Fire comes through and burns a forest and a town, and then the fire is over. But the consequences of the fire aren’t over: There’s mudslides, and there’s damaged infrastructure.” “The fire is over: Now we’ve gotta rebuild the town,” they add. The weakest part of the 2024 theatrical schedule is arguably in its first four months. Through the end of April 2024 there are 31 wide releases (north of 1,000 screens) on the calendar, compared with 44 for the January-April 2023 span. The first four months of 2023 grossed $2.65 billion built on the backs of five movies: Super Mario Bros Movie, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, John Wick Chapter 4, Creed III and Scream VI. Touching that figure would be a miracle, especially with nothing on the calendar looking like the half-billion plus success of Super Mario Bros. When it comes to Q1 2024, the stress is on Warner Bros/Legendary’s Dune: Part Two to truly deliver and fire up the year when it arrives March 1; some rival distributors believe the sequel could be a billion-dollar-grossing movie. Dune 2 is one of six titles that could clear $100M+ in the quarter, in addition to Bob Marley: One Love (on February 14), DreamWorks Animation’s Kung Fu Panda 4 and Angel Studios’ Cabrini on March 8, Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire on March 29, and Legendary and Warner Bros’ Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire on April 12. There are another 31 wide titles set for summer 2024 (down from this year’s May-Labor Day season of 38 wide entries) and another 25 booked for the fall and holiday corridor (down from 2023’s post-Labor Day frame of 44). While there are some who pine at Dune: Part Two breaking the year’s sluggish dam and the box office, some cynics believe the uneven distribution pattern of tentpoles won’t find its footing until Marvel Studios/Disney’s Deadpool 3 opens July 26. The article touches on a number of further subjects- including concerns over audience behavior and content originality. But the most interesting point is regarding what the value in theatrical releases is being seen as: Despite the Debbie Downer points presented above, none of the major studios are looking to put the toothpaste back in the bottle and practice theatrical day-and-date releases on streaming. Given that jump in home viewing, theatrical continues to be the best way to lead with a movie’s chin and to raise its profile, delivering ancillary riches in the long run. Wall Street is fully aware of this, and the fact that Apple has arrived to the table to launch $200M movies in theaters (this past year’s Killers of the Flower Moon and Napoleon) and Amazon MGM’s return to the big screen further underscores the belief in the theatrical model. Says Lionsgate Motion Picture Group Vice Chairman Adam Fogelson, whose studio broke $1 billion worldwide for the first time in five years this past year: “There’s no question about the value of a theatrical release. Even if a movie doesn’t overperform in theatrical; the stamp of quality, the value that theatrical provides is significantly important for downstream revenues.” We already knew Apple was taking that approach with both of their major releases. Seems it may be a broader philosophy that is more widely held. Oh, and these are the 31 films they believe will cross $100m at the domestic box office in 2024 (in release order): Bob Marley: One Love, Dune: Part Two, Kung Fu Panda 4, Cabrini, Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire, Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire, The Fall Guy, If, Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Ballerina, Inside Out 2, Bad Boys 4, A Quiet Place: Day One, Horizon: An American Saga – Part I, Despicable Me 4, Twisters, Deadpool 3, Horizon: An American Saga – Part 2, Beetlejuice 2, Transformers One, Joker: Folie a Deux, Smile 2, Venom 3, Red One, Gladiator sequel, Untitled Disney Animation feature, Wicked – Part 1, The Karate Kid, Mufasa: The Lion King, Sonic the Hedgehog 3. 99% of those are pretty obvious, though.
Looking at the list, I'm betting one of the top of the year ends up being an animated sequel: Inside Out 2, Kung Fu Panda 4, or Despicable Me 4. I don't think Furiosa justifies its budget, and I don't think Dune 2 breaks $600 million.
DM4 seems the front-runner here. Between the core DM films and Minions, it's the only one of those where pretty much every film in that franchise, except for the very first film, have either exceeded $1b or came just shy of it (which is where last year's Minions: Rise of Gru fell, with $940m- impressive for being the only pandemic-era release so far in the series). Though the Peacock angle might keep it back some. KFP rests in the ~$600m range, so I dont think it'll see that big of an expansion. Inside Out 1 came close to $1b, so 2 certainly has a chance... but it'll still be rough at the BO that doesn't make that a sure-thing at all.
I'm sort of going on how well the Netflix series did (earning Jack Black an Emmy, and a seriously heartfelt speech I might add), compared to everything else and how it's primed for a break-out after a break from feature films. But you're correct, even The Rise of Gru was just shy of $1bn so that has to be the favorite.
I had forgotten there was a series for KFP. That'll definitely have helped keep it alive in these interim years. Though it's also at a big disadvantage in release window: early March vs DM4's July 4th weekend. But you're right that it could still see a boost. It's main competition will be the Pixar trio "rereleases". Didn't realize that those 3 films are actually getting their first theatrical runs, as they were the 3 shoved to Disney+ for the pandemic. So, that's a pretty unique situation of a theatrical release following a streaming release- and several years later in some cases. They won't make huge bank, but they could chip away at KFP4's box office.
The "stamp of quality" is the buckets of money spent on marketing a theatrical film. I think their audience is quickly learning that entertainment at the push of a button can be found a vast variety of "quality" levels. What the studios hope is that people who were fed the marketing blitz for the theatrical run, but missed it in theaters for whatever reason, will rediscover it in physical or VOD or affect their subscription choices for streaming. But is there that much bias in people brains that "oh, that was in theaters, it must be good"...or is it the glut of commercials and ads everywhere you look? I'd be real curious if it were ever possible to compare viewing statistics for a big theater run like Top Gun: Maverick to something like Rebel Moon which had a great deal of marketing for a streaming exclusive...if you take the revenue out, and could justify an average number of individuals per stream and compared them side by side to ticket sales... The problem, of course, is that Rebel Moon will never approach the revenue of a film in a theatrical run...I doubt Netflix can justify with any hard numbers the number of subscriptions maintained for that show (they could probably do additions if they calculate new accounts that play it within 24 hours or so.) In the end, they cap the story with a positive spin, because there is no alternative...they cannot charge the subscription fees they would require to get revenue parity between VOD/Streaming and a theatrical run. The premium on the theater experience is rooted in the social zeitgeist. The problem lies in how quickly the studios dump to the streaming platforms to entice or hold onto subs. Example: I missed The Creator in the theater by 2 days. I was bummed, but knew it would be on streaming before long. Low and behold, saw it on Hulu at my sister's last week over the holiday. Still did not watch it. I know where it is, I will get to it when I am ready. I won't subscribe to Hulu. The "limited engagement" of the theatrical experience is lost. It is just one more title in backlog that goes beyond my ability to recall. What good did that theatrical run do them? That "stamp of quality" might get someone with a streaming service to add it to a watchlist. They have to stop behaving like the theater is the brief first step of a rapidly moving media rollout, because people will adapt to their budgets and their preferences. Society is quickly losing the "shared experience" element that new film releases used to carry. Someone can spend 30 seconds on social media and glean enough detail to be ready for the watercooler...if they don't work from home. The theatrical experience has to be worth the price. The studios are working furiously to convince us that a little patience can reduce that price and make the experience a private one...it all stacks against their prime method of earning a living. They have to incentivize getting off the couch and going to the show...and they don't want to do that. The industry is changing forever...they are just putting a brave face on the status quo for now.
Wonka is going to be the first movie in 5 months to crack 400 million worldwide. 400 is the new billion!
I think it's even worse with television now. Occasionally we'll get stuff like Squid Game or Severance which people will excitedly talk about for a little while before it fades, but unless you actually sit down with another person to watch a show it seems unlikely they've seen it. Most conversations about TV "in real life" I have with people are "Have you seen this one?" "No." "Oh. Well, it's good." "Have you seen this one?" "No." "It's good." Not much in the way of "event" series or movie releases. At least with TV it might get better again once the streaming services consolidate and the underperformers are culled... and the prices are raised beyond the means of anyone under 60 years old.
The first low budget schlock horror movie of 2024 from Blumhouse - Night Swim - is out. It doesn't look like it's going to be spectacularly profitable... It looks like it should have been made for $5 million instead of $15 million.
Could Sydney Sweeney new BO appeal and Anastasia Steele stans, i mean, Dakota Johnson stans led Madam Web to be a BO unexpected hit?
LOL that Anyone but You is already outperforming Aquaman 2 on a daily basis. Anyone But You is indeed terrible but reasonably entertaining by romcom standards. It's kind of like the $5 million horror movie that has a 23% RT score and earns 20 times its budget at the box office. Not quite as it cost $25 million to make, but if it keeps piling up $9 million weekends it will do fine.
Thinking about Flopfest 2024. As @The2ndQuest likes to remind us, all of the failings of 2023 are already hard-baked into 2024, and professional projections seem optimistic that this year will be even worse than last year at least at the U.S. box office if not worldwide. A test case is the A Quiet Place franchise. So far it has followed the standard traditional sequel trajectory with escalating production and marketing costs pitted against declining box office. The first movie did $340 million worldwide against a $17 million budget, making it one of the most profitable movies of the prepandemic peak. The sequel cost 3.5x more to make and earned slightly less worldwide, but still hugely profitable, earning 5x its budget. The new prequel, with a June 28 gives it a heart of summer release, though it was moved out of the seasonal pole position in March. Its title "A Quiet Place Day One" suggests that it will need a much bigger effects budget. However, it is likely saving by hiring a lower rent cast, so not sure where it comes out on cost. Summer movies also need heavier marketing budgets. I'd assume expectations must be that it will earn less than $300 million worldwide, so it might just barely support a $100 million budget. holding the line at the $61 million cost of the sequel would be a lot better. I'd definitely go see this. Watching indestructible blind monsters eat everybody has its appeal.
Excluding 2020 (obviously) this is the worst release schedule I've seen for movies since at least 2009. I'm really excited for Deadpool and Dune, and intrigued by the new Godzilla and LOTR anime, but besides that, I'll have to hope trailers get me to go to some of these. I enjoyed the one for Argylle for example.
The little microbudgeted horror movies will do well of course. Dune will do relatively well as there is almost nothing else on the calendar worth seeing. I can't guess what will be the number one movie of the year. It could be Deadpool 3 for all I know, something that potentially could make $700 million. There might be no billion dollar movies this year.
I feel like most of the budget went to getting Wyatt Russell and Kerry Condon and, admittedly, if they weren't in the movie, it would be utterly without merit. As it is, they give good performances, but the movie is dull, kind of lifeless and not scary at all. It has made its budget back already, but I think it may have kind of crapped out; I went to see it tonight and I was the only person in the 200 seat theater. And it's been out for five days. I think it's basically done. It's too cheesy for people looking for a serious slow-burn, but it has too much seriousness and is too slow for people who want a fun, intense ride. And, like I say, it's not scary, so I don't know that anybody's going to be recommending it to their friends. I anticipate that it will massively drop this weekend.
If they put most of their budget towards the cast as a draw, a shame that they didn't really feature them in the trailers instead of 1:45 of Marco Polo and 5 seconds of the typical "characters get dragged away".
I am actually a little shocked to learn the haunted pool movie was as self-serious as its advertising campaign suggested and… also I can’t believe somebody made a haunted pool movie and was like “Time for a self-serious film and advertising campaign.” That’s some Death Bed levels of botching the assignment.
All Night Swim needs to jump start its second weekend are a few "It's the Number One Film on 2024!" tv spots. Meanwhile, Anyone But You is the Number One Movie of yesterday. It made $6 million its first weekend, $9 million its second weekend, and $10 million its third weekend which seems unusual. It's the Titanic of ****** B talent romcoms.
Perhaps I should have gone with "Blood Empire" for the thread title this year. Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire has been moved up one week to March 22nd. Meanwhile, Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire has been moved up 2 weeks to March 29th, following Bong Joon-ho's Mickey 17 being pulled from the release schedule due to strike-related production delays. Guy Ritchie's The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare has also been set for April 19th.
I have to say I thought the Godzilla/Kong trailer was the worst I've seen for a 2024 movie. Maybe the movie itself has some entertainment value, but the trailer hides it expertly. Maybe it will get some extra ticket sales from goodwill toward Minus One, but if I had to pick the worst movie of 2024 based on the trailers I've seen so far, that would be it. Mean Girls upgraded to a $30-$35 million MLK weekend prediction. It has ok reviews, not great, mostly not terrible. The music numbers are supposedly well done, and the Broadway musical was successful so it's probably not going to be a disaster. Budget is reported at $36 million. Technically it needs to get close to $100 million for theatrical profitability, which could be a bit of a stretch. The Beekeeper looks like a great rental for a slow weekend a few short weeks from now.
Almost caught a preview screening of Beekeeper last weekend, but timing didn't work out. I guess they're trying to generate some (forgive me) buzz. Ayer is directing it, which I didn't realize, so there's a level of interest there, even if ends up being a pretty straight forward action flick.