Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

I don't want to insert myself too hard, but as one of the ones being very critical to the transphobia that was going on I just wanted to say thank you for the thank you. XD

Also somehow never noticed this thread before, which is odd cause it's right up my ally.

 

As I said in that thread it’s such a non issue, but makes the world to nonbinary/trans people. Ever since my cousin came out as trans around 2009-2010 and seeing what they went through I have felt very strongly about it. Which is impressive as a 9 year old usually doesn’t feel strongly about anything except Legos and video games.

is it really that hard to be nice to people? I guess it is.

 

Well, I think when Star Wars to someone is about ships and numbers and timelines and statistics and the encyclopedic nature of it all it can easy to lose sight of the very real people around who may be consuming Star Wars for different reasons.

 

Ironically the reason Wookieepedia changed its policy regarding this and deadnaming was due to a real author.

so while I don’t really care about gendering characters correctly or not cause they aren’t real people. It will almost certainly make someone think about it more and who knows they may change their mind about gendering actual people correctly or not deadnaming them.

plus there is that whole thing of validation I mentioned earlier.

I have used this example before but I think it’s apt. And it makes more sense for me to use it, but I think one of the reasons I like Tech as much as I do is because he is neurodivergent. And he’s badass and that’s pretty great. Same logic easily applies to any given LGBTQ individual.

Or maybe you’re just a cis straight white dude with no mental oddities. But even still you can just straight up ask someone hey that character is like you. Do you like that? The answer is almost always going to be yes. Unless they fall into negative tropes. Such as evil gay dude or what have you.

also I love how people can accept magical space wizards, aliens and other things, but cannot fathom the idea of accepting someone using they/them pronouns.

 

I didn't notice any "transphobia." Simply different sets of beliefs.

 

Well, from you the thing that sticks out in my mind is this little quote here:

Dismissing gender reassignment as a fad is textbook transphobia.

 

I didn't dismiss anything, or insinuate anything about it being a fad. I simply said, "their choices."

 

Insinuating that we're child predators, as Noash did in his now-mod-wiped post, is transphobia.

 

I must have missed that one.

 

Really?

fad
[fad]
noun

1. an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived and without basis in the object's qualities; a craze:
   "prairie restoration is the latest gardening fad in the Midwest"

Again, your post was, and I quote:

If that's not describing a fad, then what the heck is it?

Not only did you apparently miss it, but you also defended his post:

Note that this was after said post in question was flagged as hate speech.

 

Dude. You "liked" his post. Here, I took a screenshot for you.

 

I'm simply saying that because there are more people coming out as trans (in the last 5+ years; because society is now more open to it, in media, books etc.) that there might be regrets over the ensuing 5+.) That's it. It's a much more "open" thing. I've had three old friends and classmates transition since 2020. I'm saying that more people feel comfortable doing it. If that is me saying it's a "fad", okay, sure, I guess?

That was me responding to what you said about "kids knowing that LGBT people exist doesn't make them any more LGBT than they already would be."

 

That might be because I was showing support for people who have dissenting opinions removed.

But alright. The tar, feather, torches, and pitchforks are out. I guess I'm a transphobe for daring to defend alternative viewpoints.

 

My comment was in response to Noash.

Are you really saying that liking a post and defending it is not the same as you agreeing with it?

Yes, that is in fact saying that it is a fad.

EDIT:

Defending unpopular viewpoints isn't transphobic. Saying transphobic things is transphobic.

 

Reading one of Sturm's last posts in the Wook thread it struck me that the entire POV that LFL is chasing a trend/pushing a political agenda could be transposed almost perfectly to ESB re: Black characters. There isn't a single Black person in all of ANH, and then suddenly, boom, Cloud City is full of 'em! And one is Han's best friend? I'm not opposed to Black characters existing, but c'mon--this isn't the universe that ANH established.

Orrrrr, maybe it was a flaw before that ESB was trying to fix?

 

I don’t know if the comparison is 100% valid. I think the position of that user is a bit more insidious than you realize: the complaint that there’s too many black people to be consistent can be handily dismissed, we’ve seen only a very few humans and in different star systems. Nobody seriously believed the demography unrealistic compared to what was established.

Sturdy is asserting the line that being trans is only “natural” for a tenth of a percentage or whatever of people and when more people identify as trans it’s because of activists forcing it on people.

 

Also that’s incredibly stupid. The reason why the amount of people identify with any given sexuality or gender is because said thing was demonized to the nth degree so the reason it’s on the rise is due to it being more accepted. The same thing applies to the rise in “homosexuality” no more people are gay than were in 1880 just the people who are open about it has increased. The closeted population has declined immensely.

 

There was once a concern over more people being identified as left-handed. We were "wicked" once upon a time as well.

 

How sinister!

 

I always recognized that it made me "different." My grandfather would (in a very good natured way) joke that I was "wrong-handed." But it wasn't until I got older that I learned it was once a demonized trait. That blew me away.

That's around the time I noticed there is always some group of "others" or piece/genre of entertainment being demonized. So yeah, seeing responses like those in the other topics always annoys me.

 

My great grandparents told my mother she was a sign of the end times cause she was left handed. Okay it wasn’t that extreme but they were apparently so displeased by this fact anytime she went to their house she had to do things right handed. Jokes on them when I was a kid I copied my mom so much that I became ambidextrous.

 

Pretty sure I've seen assertions to that affect in this very thread, or older versions of it. Maybe not re: ESB in particular but the idea that SW was made in the US and thus should reflect US racial demographics--i.e. 80-90% white.