Mini Series The Acolyte 1.03 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Another thing… I don’t think that was actually Mae on the bridge. It was just a projection like present Osha keeps seeing.

 

The big surprise in this episode is that there wasn't anything really surprising. Mae actually is responsible for the destruction of the coven. Mae actually does seem to be a bit darkside, even as a child. She has violent impulses.

And I actually don't think the Jedi are portrayed as negatively as some thought. Sure, they are interrupting this other culture and challenging its practices, but ultimately they leave the choice of whether or not to join the Jedi up to the children. One question is whether children are capable of making such a decision, but that's a bit more ambiguous than usual since these are Force children with insight beyond normal children.

Osha, at the very least, is not portrayed as loving her own culture, so being allowed to choose a different future seems valid.

I also don't think this episode breaks the Force in any way. The Coven seems to have created the twins through the Force, but we already know that the Darkside can be used in this way. So I don't see anything controversial here yet, unless I'm missing something.

Overall, I thought this was an interesting episode that depicts a different Force religion and how the Jedi come into conflict with them.

Finally, the biggest shock in the episode is that we don't see any fights between the Jedi and the Coven. The witches are all dead at the end, but I think they have committed suicide or been killed by someone else -- not the Jedi. If this wasn't a suicide, could Osha's birth mother have killed them all? She seemed the most angry about letting Osha go.

 

What do you know, the YouTube grifters and bigots claiming Star Wars canon was broken amounted to so much offal.

Pretty clear that the mothers manipulated the Force in some way to bring about the twins, as opposed to the Force naturally bringing Anakin forth 100 years later to fulfill the prophecy.

This was a very solid episode. We’re clearly going to get more of what actually happened to the coven in later episodes. My only complaint is that Mae literally goes from “I’m going to kill you”, setting fire to the place and then trying to coax Osha to come with her in the span of about two minutes.

Other than that, I’m liking the story, I’m liking the world building and I’m enjoying this era. Looking forward to next week.

On an added note, I can’t help but see the Wookiee Jedi wearing robes and not think of Mark Hamill saying, “Of all the things to worry about…the Wookiee has no pants.”

 

Also this episode felt like it was directly commenting on the whole chosen one prophecy. Maybe I am reading too much into this but it felt like the meta commentary was that the chosen one prophecy was bunk. Anakin did everything because he had free will not because of some force destiny. (Which is honestly way better)

 

I hadn’t thought of that

 

As we've seen these people are pretty good at defending themselves and even have weapons. I don't think four Jedi would have insta-killed the entire coven in minutes. I think another dark sideer/Sith was also sensing Mae/Osha once they were outside the fortress' protections and came a-hunting,

 

An interesting theory about who killed the members of the Coven. We know that Mae started a fire, but it seemed to get out of hand very quickly. It could be the birth mother or perhaps even the work of the Sith Lord/Master hanging around in the shadows with an interest in the force sensitive kids.

 

There may be...but who instigated? And we do see Mae go all pyro on her own sister for wanting to go her own way.

But again...I agree there may be more we have not seen yet.

 

So, is Star Wars destroyed ?
Or those youtubers are just idiots?

 

See I think the Jedi came because they sensed something… unnatural happened on this supposedly uninhabited world and then they see the children in the forest and know something is up.

 

I think these Witches have a more communal belief in the Force, which they call the Thread. There is not one, there is two, or many. And it's not about proving the Jedi belief as wrong, or degrading Anakin as the Chosen ONE either. I think its more about just another force religion out there with different ideas and focus. Similar to the many religions here on Earth.

Also totally likely.

My point is that I don't think 4 Jedi killed the entire coven in mere minutes just because a fire broke out, or even if the Witches blamed the Jedi. Something else is there.

 

Lesbians ?

 

Not destroyed.

 

Nah they are just idiots. We knew people could create life with the force since 2005

 

"But we know the Thread is not a power you wield."

"And tonight, at the ceremony, you will experience the power of many."

"This is about power and who is allowed to use it."

Make up your mind, please. Is this about power, or is this not?

 

I absolutely loves this episode! We new we we're getting a flashback episode eventually and tonight was the night! I got a Night Sisters witches vibe from TCW and Ahsoka This show has an Ahsoka feel to it and I love that! There definitely going for a different star wars feel with this show and IMHO they have to do this to keep star wars fresh diversity! I think we get one more flash back episode to tell us more of what happened! Also great score by Michael Abels cant wait for the soundtrack on Spotify!

 

Well, Mae started a fire but none of those dead witches were burnt, right ? Also By the very end of the episode Torbin was hurt. It would be curious if that didn't come from fighting with the witches!

 

Star Wars is what is has always been...we are all going to have opinions on what we like or don't like. Not everyone is going to agree on what's what.

 

Pretty darn good episode As always the grifters were highly likely exaggerating everything. They got their clicks in for the week though.

Doesn't seem much at all different from how the EU portrayed Anakin being born in the Plagueis novel.

 

That's the thing. The introduction of force wielders that aren't Sith or Jedi brings some nuance. As you said, it's similar to many religions in real life. Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same god, but they're separate faiths, worship in different ways, call their god a different name and disagree about a lot of stuff. Think also that within all of those faiths there are numerous denominations, offshoots, sects etc. It just seems natural that things would be the same re: the Force in the GFFA.

 

When did we know that? Palpatine was lying, by the way, according to Lucas. He just told Anakin what he wanted to hear, to manipulate him. And then, when Anakin fell for the bait, Palpatine revealed that he actually doesn't know, "but together we sure will discover the secret, trust me, bro." Spoiler: they did not. Because Palpatine was bs'ing him, reading his mind and playing on his attachments.

 

Although with the force we know it’s actually real. While faiths are well faith based.

but I still think it makes sense that religions that have different beliefs form around that very real in universe thing. I think it makes things more interesting

first that I am hearing of it. Not that I don’t believe you. But Lucas changed his mind all the time.

Also the fact that the force could create Anakin makes me think someone powerful enough in the force could create another person.

 

Read the Darth Plagueis novel from over ten years ago. The ideas this episode put forth have been around for a long time.

 

So far I have liked each episode more than the last. That is a good sign.