Mini Series The Acolyte 1.06 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

They changed Osha’s outfit in this episode to something that hugs her closer, and it’s foreshadowing her having a moment with Qimir where he climbs out of a hot spring buck naked in front of her after the camera is lingering all over him for it. It’s pretty obvious what they were doing lol

 

There's a scene in EP 1, where Osha has a vision of young Mae. They're in the forest and its night. Suddenly Osha turns around and the forest is on fire. They both run through the burning woods into the Coven, and their bedroom. Osha asks if she killed Indara and Mae's eyes go black and says "Yes, I will kill them all"

There's also a scene in Ep 3, after the fire, where Osha wakes up wearing a breathing device. She asks for Mama, and Sol she died, and promises that she will never feel this pain again. In the former scene where Sol saves her, she didn't seem that injured. Emotionally? Sure. But unconscious and in need of oxygen? Not so sure. Torbin si also there, injured as well. So this scene might be real, where everything that took place before it, was altered. The episode ends with a Mae, who doesn't seem injured either, and definitely didn't fall down a hole to her death, looking up at the Yellow Tree and asking "Osha?" Again, this Mae scene might be a tease of what really took place.

The black eyes mind control thing has to come back into play in some form. Whomever was doing this to Torbin, seems to also have been doing so to Mae. Or at least that's Osha suspicion since she's the one dreaming this. Its almost like this scene is her beginning to remember what really took place but its still blocked.

Additionally the spiral shapes in Kelbacca's walls are a ying yang symbol, created with one single line. If that represents the twins, then we have one Sister who's bad, with a little bit of good in her, and one sister who's good, with a little bit of bad in her. The Coven doesn't see the dark side as necessarily evil, but just part of the cycle of things. Which makes me wonder who's who. We might be seeing Osha's little bit of dark coming through now, and vise versa for Mae. (Since the twins have swapped mentors)

 

If Sol knew it was Mae all along, why restrain her at THAT point? She had already been creeping around with a knife, she had already reprogrammed/factory reset Pip (erasing his memories and personality? A droid lobotomy?). He had given her the controls to the ship and allowed her to prowl around unsupervised doing who knows what.

Also, if Sol knew all along, his "plan" is just to abandon Osha, not knowing where she is or in what condition, and not knowing the whereabouts of Qimir?

 

Maybe because Mae was about to call the Jedi Cops and let them joke what’s up. And Sol clearly wants to take care of this himself.

But again…I think it was the hamster who told him lol. And it was ambiguous.

 

Yeah, that's what I assumed. Why else were they suggesting that he/she/they sensed something odd about Osha in the first place?

 

The episode was kind of what I was afraid of. They have really not given Osha a lot of character, never giving us deeper motivation of conflict … and now they try to develop what they missed to give her.

And killing Jedi just isn’t a problem in this show. Gets shrugged away every time. Acolyte seems to seriously advocate the idea that killing people is kinda okay.

Despite me suspecting next week they will shock us with those evil Jedi killing the coven! Which suddenly won’t be okay?

And sexy Sith truly came out of nowhere. Also the actor is doing what he can … the more he talks, the less impressive this Sith gets.

I don’t even have a guess when Sol found out about Mae or why Basil didn’t try to warn him.

Sorry, but the show becomes a mess now. Last week really gave me hope. Yet, the Parent Trap meets Star Wars thing was reason for concern. Now I simply hope we‘ll get a few more lightsaber fights, because they were fun.

 

To me, the Jedi deaths from last week really didn't affect me all that much. Does that make me a sadist? I just didn't get enough of a connection with Yord, Jecki, and especially the real expendable backup that followed them to Kofur. All I really got out of it was that it was a turning point to the series.

 

Jecki went from nobody to “damn I wish we got more of her”. She’s a legend only in death.

 

I think we should look at how the deaths have affected Sol.

 

Did they affect him?

 

And yet she, along with the other primary characters, have their own figures for the serious collectors.

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Notice there's only one of Mae/Osha (Maybe it's whoever you want it to be when playing with her?)

 

I wouldn’t mind a hot toys of Sol or Qimir. The actress who plays Jecki is great tho.,really liked her in His Dark Materials on HBO

 

I thought it's funny that they have a figure of Carrie Ann Moss' character.

When I think of her role on the show, I think back to this Simpsons scene with Krusty.

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Chalk Jedi and I were discussing this a few episodes ago and they said it best. This show is really about how hegemonic, well-intended religious institutions can develop huge cultural issues and problematic control issues as they begin to perceive their way as the only way.

They might not admit it to themselves but it seems based on their actions that the Jedi fear the risks associated with other force users developing their own ways to use the force and this fear is precisely what allowed the dark side to creep in and ultimately defeat them as underdogs.

We are going to see the lengths the Jedi of this past era went to in order to remain in control. Not to suggest that the Sith were better. Even though the show does position the Sith as underdogs with huge odds stacked against them Headland isn’t suggesting their way of life is just or better for the galaxy. She’s just showing how the Jedi went too far in trying to control too many things in this era and it backfired on them because the Sith can use that overreach and that different form of control the Jedi hold institutionally (but not individually) to get powerful force users angry with the Jedi as an institution and use the rules the Jedi hold dear against them to regularly recruit talented force users by offering the perception of more personal freedoms, the perception of the ability to live more freely, the perception of protection for those the force user is afraid to lose, and the idea of entitlement to those force users. Their pitch is more seductive opposite the Jedi’s. They’re basically trying to convince that they’re gods and should do as they want with their power.

 

I never expected her to really be in this show. All the trailers of her was just from that ONE scene.

I think this is inherently true of most systemic institutions. Jedi. Sith. Whatever.

The Jedi may have truly believed that any other way was worse. And that is probably true. But the protective nature that individuals, and especially institutions, that have power in society, behave in, and what lengths they go to to protect their own power, makes sense.

 

dp

 

I had a lot of quotes to quote but they were too much so I don’t quote.
First of all I watched it was only now because Saturday night a big water storm hit a valley near where I live and it was a disaster that ended in tragedy, several dead and several still missing, parts of the valleys isolated and without electricity power or communication. I spent 16 h per day since Sunday in a command post helping coordinating rescue operations and I am completely done… no energy anymore… so my review may be a bit biased
I loved it
I loved it!
Can’t elaborate right now but it is a wonderful portrayal of how you can seduce someone to the dark force by leveraging not the longing for power and vengeance but the longing for connection reciprocation and meaningful relationships, the pull of having someone resonating with you and seemingly understanding your thoughts…
And
That definitely had a sexual connotation
No doubt on that
At least from his side
Probably as a method only but
I mean if you are naked in a pond on the Oceanside and you look at me and you tell me something like “ well if you don’t plan to join me give me back my clothes” and then you get out of the water slowly and butt naked and make prolonged eye contact like that …
Men you def tryin to hit on me
I had troubles coping because I was mad about Jecki and Yord and I am a strong light side only fan but… oh man… he was starting to make sense to me and I almost forgot he killed a lot of Jedis… very effective Manny very effective!

 

Still creepy.

 

It was creepy in TLj when Rey suddenly had make up on and shipped herself in Barbie box to her abusive-dominating-murder-prone-psychotic-dead-behind-the-eyes, genocidal BF.

It's creep now too. Maybe a touch less. But still.

Why does every female heroine have to be seduced with "romance", and nudity? Its weird. Oh crap, I totally hated you until you took your shirt off.

 

Despite all of their understanding of personal fear leading to hate and the dark side… institutionally they didn’t recognize that they had become fearful to lose power as an organization and that let the darkness in. It’s a good message and interestingly Luke Skywalker seemed to recognize it also as a failing of the Jedi on Ahch-To but his solution wasn’t the right one either.

 

Yep. They had attachments to power and to what they idealized as the Republic, and protecting their idea of it, even past the point where they shouldn’t have.

 

It's Mae.

 

the blokes are certainly getting their kit off.