Mini Series The Acolyte 1.07 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Kelnacca starting the episode with a peaceful metal ( force) detector walk and ending it with a full on evil manifistation light saber fight. Gotta love Star Wars.

I am probably not the only one that wanted more out of this. It felt like the whole episode was gearing up for a deus ex machina type of plot resolve. Lets make this planet ( Brendok) some kind of crazy place with a crazy amount of energy ( both light and dark) that makes everyone….acting crazy. I still like the concept of the show and many of the ideas behind it. Again, it feels like the series has trouble with the pace and the characters are not being given time to build. Even Sol acts, weird in this episode. The Witches going mad, well, not that surprising maybe, given they are witches.

Have to do a rewatch, but the lightsaber duels at the end felt real and intense. The focus on Sith and Qimir + the twins will be back in the last episode, i find it hard to see them manage to finish this in a satisfying way for all. But that would be impossible anyway in Star Wars fandom i guess.

End credit song does not bother me, but maybe they should have gone for something else than a R&B ballad. Whats next: Emo rap? They used «modern» songs for LOTR end credits as well, but songs like «Into the West» felt more like integrated with the fictional universe of LOTR.

 

If they ain't a dyad at this point it would be odd.

 

Then again, when Indara recognized Mae in Ep 1 she did not look all that shocked or surprised despite seeing someone she claimed died 16 years earlier.

 

So this was the revelation episode that was inevitable.

The whole episode was a flashback; featuring the twins' scenes from earlier but from a different perspective (mainly Sol's). It was refreshing to see Carrie Ann Moss getting some more scenes in; though it's her Padawan that gets most of the limelight. We don't get a clear explanation as to how the twins were apparently artificially created but I guess that is left for the final episode. Sol kills the mother witch; and Osha doesn't witness it. The dialogue and emotions in the show continue to leave much to be desired; but it is what it is. Overall I'm still not crazy about this show, but the end is near so we'll see if there's some resolution.

 

That depends what they mean by "the same person split in two".

The dyad is supposed to be a natural thing. The Sith tried to create a dyad, but they failed.

 

I know. But she's staring at the lie, face to face. It doesn't really matter that Mae started the fire, or is killing Jedi. Osha should distrust her to a certain point. it doesn't even really matter that Osha believes her right away. She's been led to believe, by the Jedi, by her own master, that Mae is dead. If she's not dead, and is going around killing the Jedi who showed up that night, what else don't they know or haven't told Osha. For her sister to now say "they brainwashed you, Sol killed Mama". That would have to stick w her a bit.

But as i said, Mae doesn't say anything, to prolong a mystery that isn't really a mystery. Its a common thing I see in narratives, where the drama is prolonged unnecessarily because the characters don't want to bring it up, or don't say anything at all when they could easily do so

EDIT: Sol has every reason to not talk about it. It pains him. If he were the only one who really knew what happened that night ... that would make sense. All the other Jedi witnesses are dead. So he now fesses up to Mae. But ... Mae already knows the truth. And she has no reason for keeping this secret from Osha. Other than to keep the mystery going for the audience.

 

I'm not sure if it's already been discussed but the line from Mae about having to sacrifice or something to that effect when Sol was testing her seemed ominous, like one of the twins was expected to die as part of the ceremony. Given it didn't seem to factor in subsequent events I'm probably over thinking it but that was what came to mind with regard to the splitting. Maybe splitting was a way to eliminate an individual's tendencies toward one side of the force more so than a dyad?

 

She doesn’t know it’s Mae.

 

"Choice" Episode Guide | The Acolyte
https://www.starwars.com/series/the...de-7-choice-episode-guide?cmp=smc|14060169854

 

Not a fan of these flashback episodes. Ep3 and ep7 probably shoulda just been one episode, just like how ep4 and ep5 shoulda just been one episode. Even the titles seem to suggest that this was originally the plan anyways.

Also, the way the Jedi apprentice kid just rushes back to the castle after analyzing the dna was stupid. The dna alone was enough proof that their mission was complete. They coulda just sent that info back to Jedi HQ and headed home.

 

"Their symbionts are the same." what does that mean?

 

Guessing their Midichlorian levels...or whatever. It all results in a specific signature.

 

Young naive padawan, reminds me of Anakin.

 

I think it’s the midichlorians themselves he’s talking about. They are genetically exactly the same because Osha and Mae were one conscience split into two.

 

I think there's a real world explanation for this which is that they only had 40 minutes or so for the episode so things had to move quick.

 

I don't think so, this is streaming, the episodes can be whatever length they like. it's not like the old network days when they had to match 41 mins. every time.

 

One thing is for sure, the Jedi technology for reading M-counts gets significantly better by TPM days. Hours turns to seconds.

 

I think this episode only led myself to more questions than it providing answers about what happened.
-Why did Sol believe the twins to be in danger? Because he sees them training in the Force with their Mother? Because the coven is "strange"?
-Why is Torbin so desperate to get back to Coruscant? He races off on that speeder bike like his life depends on a reason to get back to Coruscant. Is he kinda like Anakin in that he has a special someone (attachment) back on Coruscant that he wants to see again?
-Interesting how Aniseya gets into Torbin's mind, but it's mostly vague temptations she's presenting.
-Great battle between Kelnacca, Torbin, and Sol. The physical power of a Wookiee combined with Force power is quite terrifying. The corruption of Kelnacca's mind reminds me of Ahsoka becoming corrupted on Mortis and her subsequent battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan.
-Witches disappearing into a cloud very reminiscent of the Night Sisters (particularly Mother Talzin).
Looking forward to how this series is concluded!

 

1: Because the Jedi believe only THEY have the right to teach kids about the Force. They then discover a vergence there, and that the kids are fighting one another, and that there's a strange ceremony about life and death.

2: Torbin has been on that planet for 7 weeks doing research. He's bored and wants to be home. Wants another more exciting assignment perhaps. He's a padawan. An inexperienced kid.

3: I think bending the knee is what really does Torbin in. He failed at being a Jedi right here. He gave up everything for vague notions and promises.

 

And Mother Aniseya getting inside his head didn't help.

 

I kept wondering the same thing. I was waiting for an explanation and we never got one. It was frustrating.

 

It's just techno-babble which tells the viewer that Osha and Mae are the same person.

 

Master, sir, I heard Sol talking about symbionts. I’ve been wondering, what are symbionts?

 

Perhaps I'm misremembering, but isn't there a bit in the third episode where Indara starts to say something that suggests that, under Republic law, they basically have the right of first-refusal to train Force-sensitive kids (if the parent consents)?

 

Considering their positions and the tatoo Mae has in her forehead i founfd odd the "it's you" Indara said meant to refer to Osha.