Saga Here is my unorthodox Star Wars opinion: change my mind!

I could not take Rebels seriously even before Andor existed.

 

The truth is Disney should make Star Wars stories more for adults i loved Andor i even doubt that Lucas would have done something similar in Underworld the majority of Star Wars fans are adults the new generations dont care as much about the franchise they should make more stories like Andor in films and shows

 

Star Wars can be kiddy, and adult at same time. Rebels walked so Andor could run

 

Bah! In many ways Star Wars is more popular than ever. Speaking as someone who grew up in the 80s/90s, I've seen this franchise evolve from near-extinction to cultural juggernaut.
Were you around for the wilderness years after Return of the Jedi? When finding Star Wars toys meant digging through clearance bins and most kids my age couldn't name a character beyond Darth Vader? The franchise nearly vanished from mainstream consciousness.

Fast-forward to now—Star Wars permeates pop culture in ways unimaginable back then. From streaming series dropping year-round to Galaxy's Edge theme parks where kids can build their own lightsabers and fly the Millennium Falcon. Kids absolutely LOVE Star Wars.

What's remarkable isn't just the quantity but the diversity of content. The franchise speaks to different generations simultaneously—whether through nostalgic callbacks or entirely new characters and stories. Kids today aren't just passive consumers; they're deeply invested in the expanding universe.

If anything, Star Wars has proven its staying power by constantly reinventing itself while maintaining its core essence. Rather than fading away, it's become more interwoven with global popular culture than ever before.

 

To be fair, during the 1990s — especially right before the Prequels came out — Star Wars had already started to rise again from the ashes, mainly thanks to the Expanded Universe. So yes, it is true that Star Wars basically fell into obscurity from the release of Return of the Jedi until the mid-1990s, but in the second half of the decade, it had already began to make a comeback. When the Prequels hit, the franchise exploded in popularity, and throughout the 2000s Star Wars was absolutely huge, and the Sequels definitely made it even more mainstream. Yet, honestly, over the last four or five years, I have been feeling a bit of a decline in how popular it is. Sure, it is still way more popular than it ever was in the 1980s, but here in 2025, at least to me, it feels a bit less hyped than it was in the 2000s and 2010s.

 

Completely agree. Hype and cultural "excitement" are hard to maintain. I think any massive cultural phenomenom needs time to rest/go away for a bit to be missed and build anticipation. Whether it's film franchises like Marvel, singers like Taylor Swift, collectively we need breaks in order to reinvigorate, etc.

 

I guess at the time, There not gonna be any Star Wars Movies, so when the Expanded Universe started picking up steam and the special editions and Prequels started coming along it was pure magical..

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The EU helped, but it was Lucas announcing the SE's and the PT, and the release of new merchandise that drove interest. The EU only affected the small fandom that was even aware of its existence. "Casuals" had no clue about it.

 

I was a massive fan of the movies but for some reason the books never interested me as I was already engrossed in other stories on the page... whereas Star wars was always the screen

 

I think for us type of fans the advent of the novels and comics is what got interest going again. I didn't know they were coming until I saw them in our local sci-fi / comic store. But as the 90's progressed they were even in all the major book stores on prominent display. But even so I think its definitely fair to say that they catered for a niche market. It felt like an underground movement that was gathering momentum.

But once the SE editions were announced the publicity and marketing around them was massive, bringing SW back in to the public consciousness again. Was it The Power of the Force toy line that came out then too?

All in all the 90's ended up being a long game leading up to TPM, quite a genius way of brining it all back and promoting the upcoming PT really. Whether thats an unorthodox opinion I don't know.

 

I have a lot of problems with Rebels that make me disagree with this but I'd at least see where you're coming from if Kanan was really the actual main character.

 

Well in Star Wars the student is always the main character who has a support character in the mentor..

 

SW popularity did decline after the prequels though, lot of people were disappointed. It was not until the clone wars came out that people started warming up to SW again

 

I hear you on that. I think part of it is that, similar to the aftermath of ROTJ, people thought Star Wars was done....for all time. When the Clone Wars movie came out, I remember some folks talking about beating a dead horse, etc. Fortunately, Clone Wars actually kept the fire buring. Hell, my kids first exposire to SW was via Clone Wars....thus, Episode 3 is their fav SW film.

 

My unorthodox opinion is that many people would have hated the Prequels and the Sequels regardless of how they were made. Fans who grew up with the Original Trilogy were disappointed with the Prequels because they did not match the backstory they had envisioned for Darth Vader. So, no matter how the Prequels were done, many fans would have hated them anyway.

The same goes for the Sequels. Many fans had a specific vision for the future of Luke, Leia, Han, and the other main characters from the Original Trilogy, and any deviation from that would have resulted in hatred. So no matter how the Sequels were made, there would always have been people who disliked them.

Of course, this does not excuse the flaws of the Sequel Trilogy or those of the Prequel Trilogy, but it is important to acknowledge that, no matter how the films were made, there would always have been a lot of people who hated them. Maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less compared to our reality, but those groups would have existed regardless.

 

There being a contingent of people who will always dislike something regardless of the quality therein is not the take you think it is.

 

the hate would've been lesser though if the prequels and sequels were made better. The issues with the prequels were bad acting, too much cgi, bad writing and the issues with sequels were the lack of worldbuilding and bad writing. While there's always a group of people hating on everything, the degree of hate matters and would have been lesser otherwise.

 

I still do not get why people say the Prequel Trilogy has bad writing. I kind of understand the complaints about bad acting, and I get why some think there was too much CGI. But when it comes to the writing itself, I honestly do not see the problem. Whenever I come across such criticisms, they often turn out to be based on people not paying enough attention to the films.

 

Thrawn was better as an outright villain in the original Thrawn trilogy than he was in the newer Thrawn novels or Rebels or Ahsoka.

Okay, that might not be completely unorthodox...

 

Leia deserved better characterization in Return of the Jedi. More dialogue about the situations at hand (a more realistic reaction to finding out Darth Vader is her biological father would have been nice). In general, her expertise in the Imperial Senate, politics, and her Alderaanian history would have been nice to hear more about.

Luke and Leia’s relationship needed to be better explored in Empire (actually having conversational dialogue would have helped) to make the brother-sister reveal more natural.

 

is this code for

*didn't pay attention to TCW, licensed books, comics, etc?

 

I would like them to separate Live Action and Animation and say that both are separate Universes at least say that everything made by Dave Filoni takes place in its own Universe i think Filoni is good for a more family friendly Star Wars but i cant take seriously that Andor and Rebels share the same Universe