ST Master Filmmaking Team announced! JJ now writing the script

Star Wars has had a broad audience since Episode IV came out.

 

Which would explain the monumental mainstream buzz even the slightest whiff of episode VII news gets.

 

If they think that pulling a Star Trek will work on Star Wars, they have a rude awakening. You'll see. JJ Trek already has a backlash from loyal fans. The backlash will be way more with Star Wars because there are more loyal fans, and disposable Star Wars is worse than Jar Jar for a loyal Star Wars fan., of which there are many more than Trek. You think the Trek backlash is bad? Wait til you see the Star Wars backlash. Plinkett hated Into Darkness. The honeymoon period with JJ is over. They should look where the puck is gonna go, not where it has been, to borrow a Kevin Smithism.

 

Not only that, but they will be dealing with Prequel fans who are used to a less populist, more divisive Star Wars. You can't capture lightning twice.

 

Yeah, I agree. The Making of books (RotJ in particular) really drive the point home on how great and difficult of a performance Mark gave.

 

Fans of the PT and the OT will like the new films more than fans of just the OT, IMO.

 

Hamill is downright awesome in ESB once you figure out that it's just him and a freakin' puppet for a significant chunk of the movie. He drives the point home in the "Empire of Dreams" documentary wherein the call sheet is just "Mark Hamill" down for, like, weeks straight by the end. (also funny aside where he picked up The Stones on his earpiece and screwed up a few takes)

 

I talked to a Disney rep at the weekend during a preview screening for Thor: The Dark World. I asked him about the press release regarding Star Wars and he said although it wasn't his department (he only deals with Marvel events) as far as he understood it JJ & Kasdan were just doing rewrites/alterations.

That probably means nothing, I don't expect classified information to be causally passed to someone like myself but it was useful to know what someone else in the company thought about it.

 

I'd love to hear your reasoning for this statement.

 

Aha so people are still panicking? Excellent. Everything is going as foreseen.

 

Many of the fans of only the OT hated the PT because it changed their view of Star Wars. It was different than the Star Wars they were used to. One main reason for that is the time gap between production of the PT and OT. The ST will be even newer that the PT, and and will likely be even more different than the OT, so that is why I think it will be less liked by people who only like the OT. Also, some only-OT fans have decided that the OT is the the only Star Wars that they like and the prequels have ruined Star Wars for them. In my opinion, people who enjoy the whole Star Wars saga are generally more open-minded to new projects (such as the Clone Wars TV series.). I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter.

 

There are two kinds of popular. There is timeless entertainment and there is disposable entertainment. I think you underestimate the Star Wars saga if you think it is not timeless entertainment thus far, or if you think JJ Abrams has ever made timeless entertainment. If Star Wars becomes disposable (yet successful) entertainment, like Trek has become, it will not bode well. Even the investors want Star Wars to be timeless entertainment, because that sells more in the long run.

 

No I think it will be even. As an OT fan, and not a PT fan the problems most of us have, have nothing to do with the ideas, or the thoughts of the PT. It came down to one thing, which was the execution. New does not scare people away, like Nolan's trilogy is seen as the best Batman stuff now by most Bat fans, where as it used to be B89 that had everyone love (most still love it). But my point is new is not what made us not like the PT. I did not like the PT, but not for the ideas, but the execution of it, and the writing. Actually I see more OT fans excited about this then ever before, so many of my friends have come back to SW fandom because of this. Oh and most PT haters I know like myself love TCW.

 

The difference in style is not the only reason some people dislike the PT. Some people feel it is simply of lesser quality. It is true, though, that there are a lot of people who have a very narrow definition of what Star Wars is and as a result will never be satisfied. The people who created the "Dear JJ Abrams - 4 Rules to Make Star Wars Great Again" are a perfect example of this. Those rules actually have nothing to do with telling a good story, and as a result, even a Star Wars film with solid characters and plot could still disappoint anyone who thinks Star Wars always must be "dark and gritty", take place on the frontier, exclude all things cute and be vague about the Force. Those who are open to experiencing Star Wars in new ways, and have already expanded their definition of Star Wars beyond the OT, are going to enjoy the new films more than those who haven't, there is no doubt about it.

 

I do think fair weather OT only fans will like disposable JJ entertainment more than the more challenging PT, but the PT fans (whose numbers are underestimated) will be pissed when the movie is made for the lowest common denominator, like JJ Treks are.

 

MODified: Yeah... not happening.

 

Sayonara, sucka!

 

I don't think so. Because even on these forums most of the people "anti JJ/ST" are big "Saga" fans. Again you are putting it in simple terms of what you think we don't like it about it. It really had nothing to do with tone, most felt that are like us that it was just lesser film making quality. That's usually the bottom line for most of us. So I think actually that's why most OT fans are really excited for this prospect, as well as lots of saga fans as well. I think we are all excited for the most part.

 

I prefer the OT over the PT, but it's not because of a time gap or a change in looks. Yes, the two trilogies are vastly different in execution and I know some fans can't get past that part alone, but the reason I didn't like the PT is because of the qualities that you don't see, like script and character development. When I ask myself if I cared about any of the characters of the PT, I have to honestly say no. Not true with the OT. The OT focused on story with some special effects thrown in to spice things up, and more importantly, move the story along. The PT, in my opinion, does just the opposite. It was all show, no go. Lots of gratuitous CGI. Like the line from Jurassic Park goes: they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. I know the ST will have lots of effects, just like the Trek movies. I'm okay with that as long as there's as much care and time given to the characters. I truly liked the Trek characters. Not so with the PT. I have high hopes that JJ can pull off the right mix of the two, FX and story.