ST Kylo Ren's Lightsaber

I remember back in the days when we knew nothing, except that we will get the ST, there was a discussion about (I think in the baddie thread) what kind of Sith we haven't seen yet. One of those ideas was a Sith Brute and while the character isn't quite the Hulnk from statue (Driver for sure isn't) the lightsaber fits the Brute concept. I could picture it being an ancient weapon from a hulking Sith conqueror that Driver discovered.

 

I believe Kasdan and J.J Abrams has come up with a really good backstory why this Sith (or whatever he is) is using this broadsword type of lightsaber. Neither of Kasdan and J.J wants to invent something silly and piss off the fans, that's why I believe the backstory of that weapon will be more than solid.

I personally don't like the design of that weapon, but I'm not gonna whine about unlike the majority of fans till I've seen/heard the reason why they went that "path".

 

Very sensible point of view. The movie isn't being created by idiots. There will be a method behind everything they do. I'm sure it will make sense when seen in context.

 

Probably more of a defensive measure to stop a sneaky slide stroke down the sabre (what Dooku did to Obi Wan in AOTC)


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I think you could be onto something there.

 

Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm rehashing what someone else has said but:

• a crossguard on a lightsaber makes sense when you consider that, over the course of six movies, we saw at least four lightsaber duels ending in chopped-off hands. Not necessarily in ways that a crossguard would have prevented, but it would seem like a reasonable precaution
• making the crossguard out of actual plasma seems a bit mad but perhaps this is due to the lightsaber's manufacturer not having access to lightsaber-resistant materials. That is, if the crossguard can simply be chopped through, why bother?
• you'd presumably have to have a different combat style than a lot of the ones we've seen in the PT. Less rapier, more broadsword.
• this sword's beam is far less coherent than we're used to.

So my thought would be that this is a jury-rigged weapon made by someone with no direct contact with anyone in the Jedi or Sith traditions. It's an imperfect recreation of something nobody has seen for 30 years or more, and reflects a combat style that has been made up by the wielder.

 

This is the first time I've seen or thought about this, and it blew my mind!

 

I think the blade looks unstable because it's an ancient weapon. Maybe it belonged to a legendary Sith from a long time ago. That would also explain the hilt and the fact that the blade makes a different sound than other lightsabers we've seen. Considering the rumour that the new villain collects Sith artifacts, it would make sense.

As I pointed out in another thread just now, my story idea in the Plot Ideas thread last year involved a young wannabe Sith, who learns the ways of the Dark Side through Sith artifacts and relics. If the villain calls themselves 'Darth Renatus', I'll know the writers read these forums!

 

the saber is designed terribly
someone can cut off the side emitters very easily and then you have a regular lightsaber again
claymore fighting is not for a weightless blade

 

What lightsaber is practical? Hilarious.

 

He/she could use it to shred documents. Or cut bagels. Or sell toys.

Just like any other saber!

 

Somebody already mentioned in this thread: With the amount of lightsaber duels that have ended in the loss of a hand, it makes sense that
someone would design a guard to protect against that!

(And the cutting off of the emitters has been addressed as well )

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Phrik

 

Yeah, I just think if you had access to Phrik or something similar, you might just want to make the crossguard out of that? Are lightsabers routinely constructed out of that sort of thing? I seem to remember Maul's saber being cut in half by Obi-Wan, so maybe not...

Assuming the only way to effectively parry a saber is with another saber, the plasma crossguard makes some kind of sense. It's possible the emitters are too small to provide a target.

 

Even if you assume its made out of that the guard needing an emitter instead of just being all saber resistant is dumb
the chances of your own hand getting cut off increase by even using the saber.

 

The saber seems almost to be one in which can literally be a one hit winner. It looks like it needs to be handled two handed and would pack the punch when swung.

 

Why can't it just be the way it is because it looks neat?

Maybe someone made it and said...hmmm...you know what would be neat...this....and voila.

 

I'm hoping this saber is a Sith relic of an ancient Sith lord. Outdated technology and explains the other saber flickering.

 

The chances of your own hand getting cut off increase by even using ANY saber. That's why Jedi and Sith train rigorously to use it. Yet, we assume this guy doesn't?

Also, if we're talking practicality, they'd all use blasters and get headshots 100% of the time.

 

I hope you are right. I also hope that the Villian quickly realizes that this relic belongs in a museum, and creates a proper Lightsaber.

 

What I want to know, is if the cross-blades can be extended at will to be used in combat. Taking on multiple enemies just got a lot easier and saber-locking just became impossible.

We also dont even know if this new baddie is force sensitive. He could be another Grevious.

and if the new baddie is an ancient sith, the name "The Ancient Fear" just became relevant again.

 

Nothing would surprise me at this point.

 

The problem with complaints and negative opinions here is not so much that you "must be positive / a gusher" on these boards, it's that 90% of people who complain haven't even read the rest of the thread where some of the issues they raise are addressed. Case in point - the side emitters. Discussed at length, a fair theory presented, we even had illustrations explaining it... nah, don't read those, just go on and whine about the same thing for the sixty-seventh time.

On the other hand...

...this approach is something that I greet and applaud. A civilized way to remain objective yet say what you think, without going in circles.

 

People are forgetting that Larry and JJ can simply write a lightsaber duel where someone doesn't get their hand cut off. Or where the baddie doesn't accidentally stab himself with his own weapon. Or where the crossguard isn't cut in half by another lightsaber. That's where the "practically" aspect of this goes out the window. The fights can be written anyway they want.

The cynic in my is saying that the only reason this weapon exists is because someone at Lucasfilm thought they had to one-up Maul's saber just for the sake of doing something different, and to sell toys. I said it in the teaser thread, but I think having the blowtorch effect with a weird, ancient style hilt would be enough to make it look badass and unique.

 

I just get the feeling that the blade can pack quite the punch. That it could almost be a one shot KO in terms of a duel. Not that is hacks off any limbs, but that it can knock the lightsaber out of an opponents hand.

 

I think they are deliberately trying to invoke a medieval look with this thing (as well as being 'cool'). And with that, they've succeeded in doing so, imo.