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ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sunbloom, Dec 19, 2015.

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  1. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    What a great romance this ReyLo thing would be.

    Imagine Episode X - They have Kids and the little cute one asks mommy:
    "Mommy! How did you meet each other? What did daddy do before he met you?"

    Rey: "Oh darling, We met when your daddy was trying to kill me. Before this he killed his father, some younglings, blasted some planets with fantastillions of killed innocent people and after he gave the order to behead a whole village.
    This was the most romantic and exciting time of my life! But you must not be afraid of him. He just wants to play from time to time like a little naughty dog."
    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Cujo?

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  3. AnneNeville

    AnneNeville Jedi Master star 4

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    Fortunately, this is Star Wars and not an episode of How I Met Your Mother . . . we don't have to worry about how Kylo Ren and Rey will explain their origins to children who may never exist, just about how their stories may nor may not be constructed in relationship to one another.

    ETA: That said, if they do end up as a happy couple creating a new dynasty of Force users, I suspect that they'd have to give Kylo Ren some kind of huge and significant act of redemption. He'd have to take down Snoke, or turn the tide of the war, or find a force-power to unbrainwash the entire Stormtrooper army so they turn on the First Order and bring peace to the various factions.
     
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  4. thescavenger

    thescavenger Jedi Knight star 2

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    I'm just going to reply to mine, just because I don't want to impede on other people's quotes and interpretation, but here goes.

    Yes, I do not disagree with what you've said at all about Rey. She's conflicted at this point too, fine. But they've also shone blue and red lights on Kylo's face and focused solely on him for a second, and then the camera turns to Rey who is reflecting similar colours. There's a mirroring going on, which could mean that both are conflicted, but of course it's on different scale. If you want to keep a consistency on the reflection of colours imageries, it's only fair to take into account what happens in the duel after the Han scene as well. My original point is trying to say that if you could claim that darkness has taken over Ren, shown in how there is red light reflected on his face after killing Han (as opposed to prior), then I could as well use the same concept to apply to the duel. Both very visually telling and beautiful scenes, may I add.


    It just boggles me as to how this is going to happen. So Snoke is going to teach him how to be mentally stable and fix his lightsaber? It leaves me more question than answers, to be honest.

    So okay, let's say I accept your point. Snoke is going to finish Kylo's training, so he could be the next Vader. But to me - and I insist that this is only how I saw the movie - Snoke doesn't trust him after the events of TFA. So all this time, despite giving Kylo leadership over the FO, he is not fully trained and Snoke just pops by in a hologram and orders him around, then goes away? I feel like the request to train Kylo in physical proximity is to keep him in check and aligned with Snoke's own interests more than anything. Also, he could have told Kylo himself to come to him, rather than order Hux to bring him over. It just doesn't seem like he trusts Kylo's own judgement. Plus, he has already raised concerns over Kylo's weaknesses, especially when it came to interrogating Rey. I don't know if he is able to see what has been happening, but with Kylo "defeated" by Rey in the duel and also him offering to teach her, it doesn't seem like Snoke could trust him at all. Maybe he senses the conflict in Kylo growing and want to reaffirm his commitment to the dark side. I see Snoke wanting to finish Kylo's training because at this moment, he doesn't trust his loyalty to the cause.
     
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  5. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Darth_Smurf.....

    Wow! So much hate!

    I didn't even want to reply to such a rude and offensive post but at least get your facts straight-

    1. Kylo never wanted to kill Rey...he even openly says so throughout.

    2. Younglings were killed by Annakin. We don't know what were the circumstances around the student's deaths or their age, so don't attribute something to Kylo just because of something his grandfather did.

    3. Kylo openly opposed using the starkiller weapon, to the extent that Snoke wanted to make an example of Rey to teach Kylo about darkness because of it. If you want to blame someone, blame Snoke and Hux for it.

    4. Yes, Kylo gave the order to kill the villagers, but not to "behead" them...and people were known to disappear in that village and this was an armed group, not a group of innocent and harmless residents.
     
  6. Camaro

    Camaro Jedi Master star 1

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    I may have told her about us. I regret nothing :p. How could Ohtze not BE here. All is right with the universe now. Welcome!! I was that anon <3)
     
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  7. Ohtze

    Ohtze Jedi Padawan

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    My long-form meta is direct linked on my About/Tag List page, so if you're looking to read it one day (without venturing deep into the tumblrs), that's the way to do it. As for ignoring: don't you worry. Ignoring tends to be my modus operandi in general (I find it keeps my stress levels down), but from what I've seen trawling this thread, tumblr is way worse for the hate. Like boy oh boy, could I tell ya'll stories. So I've got a pretty strong constitution for this sorta thing. THAT SAID: thanks for the heads up! When things become clowns-in-a-clown-car levels of messy, I shall keep a low profile.

    Camaro Good to know! Honestly I get a ton of anons, so its nice to connect names to faces, metaphorically speaking. Thank you for telling me about this place.
     
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  8. thescavenger

    thescavenger Jedi Knight star 2

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    "The girl I've heard so much about..." ^:)^
     
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  9. BladenSoul3003

    BladenSoul3003 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yep, Reylo is popular and well-received in China. Reylo club in Russia has 1966 members and it's still growing (they have their own network, just like China).

    Don't know how many in Japan and Korean cuz Google Translate sucks tho, but i saw some of them and their artwork in Tumblr and Instagram. At least if this ship sinks, there will be thousand of people sink with us. And Mr. James Cameron can direct Titanic 2. [​IMG]
     
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  10. Jakku Sun Aesthetic

    Jakku Sun Aesthetic Jedi Knight star 2

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    So I was reading that Rey's outfit at the end of the movie was inspired by Han Solo's outfit. I was wondering why they might do that and I had a thought...is she replacing Han as the one who could bring Kylo Ren home? Also, maybe it has to do with the fact that she will dabble in the dark side (beyond the obvious grey color) because Han didn't have the best morals all the time...?

    Oh also, Han is the one who got the princess in the OT, right? If we go with the idea that Kylo is the "princess" of this movie, would her Han outfit show she gets the "princess?"

    I may be taking this idea too far but this: http://kylorenslips.tumblr.com/post/139848494797/organasrey-reyhan-concept-art-parallels-i
     
  11. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    What makes the difference, to me, is who each scene is about. Ultimately that duel is about Rey accepting her destiny, so the conflict of light has the most to do with her. The previous scene had the most to due with Kylo Ren and his choice. That decision represents a monumental shift in Ren, one so profound Leia feels it and is pained at the implications. It's obvious Han's death hits her hard, you see that in her eyes, and then she closes them and looks even sadder as if realizing what this change likely means for her own son.

    It takes training to master the dark side....and as I pointed out Ren's actions (Throwing temper tantrums) and the lack of polish in the construction of his Lightsaber show a lack of training.

    I feel that Snoke, knowing Skywalkers return is likely immenint has no choice but to train Ren. It helps that Kylo has severed his connection to his father, moving further away from the light, but ultimatly he's going to need Ren at his best to face Skywaler and the possible return of the Jedi.

    Actually no, Kylo Ren was injured and away from the comm room...Hux was basically being told to make sure Ren got off planet before it's destruction, and then be brought to him.

    He's manipulating Kylo Ren, who fears being made weak like Vader was due to sentiment and compassion (from his POV) so by speaking those words Snoke drives Kylo Ren to embrace the darkside just to show he can, hastening his fall.

    Snoke was unwilling to train Kylo for two reasons.

    1. Kylo Ren was still clinging to the light. Well with the Death of his father, that issue has been taken care of.

    2. Snoke doesn't want Ren to grow more powerful than he is. Now a moot point since Luke's return requires Ren to be made ready.
     
  12. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    Nope - facts - Hate leads to the dark side

    You did finally

    Thats why he was only blocking during the lightsabre battle

    Wrong movie

    Students/Younglings ? Who cares - they are dead

    That reminds me on some happenings and argumentations about 70 years ago. If you support murders you are guilty as well. To say - This wasn't what I wanted is ridiculous (sorry)

    That for sure makes a huge difference. I'm sure they feel better now that the facts have been corrected

    Of course - only blood hungry villains.
     
  13. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    Okay, where is this stated?
     
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  14. vaderito

    vaderito Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They call it a flashback but it's actually unclear whether it's a flashback or a flashforward. We know that Rey saw future (Kylo on Star Killer) and past (Bespin, drop on Jakku, likely Luke and R2) but Kylo kills someone + KoR could be past or future. It's confirmed that the scene was not from Jedi students massacre.

    Another day, another time waster lands on my Ignore list. [face_dancing] looks like other threads bore those people since they love to hang out in this one. [face_dunno]
     
  15. BlackIsTheColor

    BlackIsTheColor Jedi Knight star 2

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    Wow. Same experience here, the bolded part represents 100% my exact thoughts/feelings.
    The only difference is that I've goy mixed feelings about the next trilogy and other spin-off projects
     
  16. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just read the write-up on Ken Palpatine.... he has so much in common with Rey including being spirited away from his family, the lonely childhood, being comfortable around droids, powers like reading minds and mind control etc.......I also found it interesting that he thinkst he was a Kenobi and only later discovers he is Palpatine's grandchild but his mother was a jedi....but he rescues his father, joins the republic, becomes Luke's student and decides to do good rather than evil.....I hope the writers use some elements of this while writing Rey's story.....of course, the icing on the cake would be if they follow this story line but make the mother a Kenobi....:D

    Now I have to get hold of the books telling Ken's story....I read that they didn't complete the 9 part series of his adventures as was originally planned, so maybe they shelved theseries and decided to re-work Ken's story for this trilogy.....[face_praying]
     
  17. Force22

    Force22 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Uh, isn't that how parents teach their kids to swing a bat?
    I don't know, at least that's what I see in movies. We don't play much baseball in my home country.
     
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  18. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Here is a quote from the TFA book...

    Poe hesitated a moment longer, then whirled and raced toward the far end of the village, BB-8 pacing him effortlessly. As he ran, he was passed by armed, stern-visaged villagers. How the alarm had been
    raised he did not know, just as he did not pause to wonder at how or why such seemingly simple folk had come into possession of so many weapons. Doubtless Lor San Tekka would know. Poe resolved to ask
    him—one day.
     
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  19. BlackIsTheColor

    BlackIsTheColor Jedi Knight star 2

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    jeeeeee, I loved House of Flying Daggers! You're spot-on about the dynamics.
     
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  20. Force22

    Force22 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    To be honest, I wasn't very sure about a romantic potential for these two. I was thinking maybe just some undertones and very conflicted Kylo, maybe in a tragic vein. I was thinking more along those lines. But the thread has convinced me otherwise. I think a romance between Kylo and Rey is possible now. I have to confess, though, that since watching Rey and Kylo, deep down, I wanted to see them together, so I guess I was shipping them.
     
  21. BlackIsTheColor

    BlackIsTheColor Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yes!!!! That is what compassion is about!
     
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  22. Force22

    Force22 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Indeed! Watch the battle. That's exactly what he is doing. Blocking. She attacks first. The only moment he "attacks" is right before they lock lightsabers, and you could argue he wanted a moment with her.

    You can watch the battle, go to Youtube, the channel is Lorenzo Pugno Di Fuoco
     
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  23. Ohtze

    Ohtze Jedi Padawan

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    I am totally down for this. Would make the subtext between them a-okay too, although I'm not sure how likely it is, considering where they are now (a lot would need to happen between point A and point B).
     
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  24. Rei of Sunshine

    Rei of Sunshine Jedi Knight star 2

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    Saw a Mean Girls meme text on Tumblr the other day... havent gotten a screencap of it but it went like this.

    KYLO: You know who's looking fine tonight? Rey.
    HUX: Isn't she your cousin?
    KYLO: Yeah, but she's my first cousin.
    HUX: Right.
    KYLO: So, you have your cousins, and then you have your first cousins, and then you have your second cousins...
    HUX: Honey no...
     
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  25. Rei of Sunshine

    Rei of Sunshine Jedi Knight star 2

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  26. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    This is me after Episode 8 comes out, reading your reactions when Reylo never happened.
    [​IMG]
     
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