ST The New Definitely Not Improved Even More Horrible Than The Last Two Rumors Thread

First of all, I'd like to wish my fellow U.S. forum users a happy Labor Day and hope you are enjoying your holiday.

Second, MSW just posted some new set photos from IX's black park shooting location a couple days ago that I can't believe hasn't been posted yet (probably because we've been too busy arguing over Mike Zeroh ):

https://makingstarwars.net/2018/09/...e-ix-black-park-location-2-jungle-set-photos/

 

I wish they would have gone to Laos (or still will) rather than have an English forest mixed with a few fake palm trees.

 

Gtfo of here with your legit rumours and set photo's!

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But it’s a alien planet. On this particular alien planet it apparently looks like a combo of English forest and palm trees.

 

Go to Laos, or buy a few palm trees.....

 

On that note maybe they’re thinking, “we’ll this scene only lasts ten minutes. Are we really going to go to Laos for a ten minute scene?”

 

Scarif in Rogue One was a mix of the Maldives and an English backlot covered in sand and potted palms and CGI.

 

And twins!!!

 

Location-shooting is IMO essential for getting the right Star Wars vibes. That said, many scenes are a combination of studio and location filming, so I imagine a Laos-Pinewood backlot combo is plausible for this verdant planet.

 

Scarif was the focus of the third act in RO so it was worth shooting in the Maldives (combined with pinewood studio set). Perhaps the scene with the Falcon in the jungle only lasts a minute or two before shifting to interior scenes or another planet and it just wasnt worth the trouble? And perhaps a second unit team will actually shoot in Laos for an establishing shot?

 

Agreed. And I know this puts be at the opposite end of the aisle from a lot of other SW fans, but I'm not particularly fond of the worlds looking too "otherworldly." For me it's enough to see a world that feels like a real, tangible place, even (especially) if it's a a single world-encompassing environment, i.e. snow, desert, etc. It's the thing that sets Star Wars worlds apart from, like, those in Star Trek, which always feel really artificial.

 

That may be the opposite end of the aisle from a lot of other SW fans, but it's certainly my aisle. It's a good aisle, too. I'd argue the best.

 

Hello from some way along the aisle. I know what you mean, but I do like the occasional location to be "out there".

What's always bugged me about Star Wars planets is that the whole planet has to be the same. The forest moon of Endor, the deserts of Jakku / Tatooine, Hoth, Coruscant. I suppose it helps to distinguish them (Jakkooine aside), but I've always found it a little odd.

 

I actually like both the otherworldly and more real world looking type of planets.

About the planets all being the same or similar planet wide, I look at it from the perspective of a fantasy where they talk about different lands. The land of X or the land of Y. Just with star wars the land of is switched to planet.

 

I hope so too. They filmed Kong: Skull Island in nearby Vietnam, and that movie featured some really beautiful scenery from that corner of the world.

 

If it’s a natural environment, I prefer it to look natural in an earthly sense (but with alien accents, such as multiple suns and moons, etc). But if it’s primarily an urban environment, like Coruscant or the Ring of Kafrene, I’m all for some out there-ness. The key is tangibility, not necessarily realism. Does it look like it exists in camera? If so, I’m in.

 

No yeah, and I get that. It's a situation where I don't think one is inherently "good" or "bad," just that one is preferable to me. But I also understand the desire for more alien, "out there" looking worlds. I don't necessarily mind them, but a world like Tatooine or Crait will stick with me and take hold of my imagination more than a world like Felucia or Mygeeto. It's really just a preference thing, and one of those weird situations where what Star Wars "is" is wildly different depending on what you take from it.

As for the one-environment planets, I think that's down to Star Wars being a fantasy series with sci-fi trappings as opposed to an actual sci-fi series. In sci-fi, I expect worlds that truly feel like other worlds, with all that entails. With Star Wars, the worlds feel more like single locations that are planets as an artifact of the sci-fi trappings more than anything, but they have more in common with, like, locations on the map at the beginning of a fantasy book, with Hoth being a snowy tundra on that map, Endor being a large forest, and the GFFA essentially serving as one continent. I'm really tired, so I don't know how much sense I'm making, but yeah.

Tl;Dr the plains looking planet Finn and Poe are adventuring on is my jam.

 

While there is only "one" real timeline in Star Wars these days, the forest moon of Endor has been depicted to have various biomes in previous materials over the years, particularly in the Ewok duology. Endor has temperate forests, some perhaps tropical or sub-tropical, coastal areas, mountains with high elevations, and even deserts in some portions of its landmass. I don't know if any of that has carried over to the new canon, though.

A planet like Hoth probably shouldn't be much of a surprise, at least if we use our IRL universe as a reference point, where the majority of planets, moons, and planetoids are cold, freezing rocks in space. I don't think there are that many planets like it in GFFA, though, from what I can recall.

 

To have a section of a film where the heroes travel across a planet, and the landscape changes along their journey... cities to farmland to forest to open plains to desert.... Even just as a wordless "and so of they drove in their landspeeder" sequence.

Something that gave you a view of a complex living planet.

That would be rather new and unique.

 

Most known planets are not very geologically or climatically diverse, so the “one feature” planets of SW are actually quite scientifically realistic. However, they mostly function as the varied landscapes of fantasy stories. Only instead of our heroes walking or riding a horse from landscape to landscape, they fly spaceships.

 

Distinguishing the worlds in terms of climate/landscape is something I always thought was done very well. Until they sort of rehashed Tatooine with Jakku. Always thought that was a very uninspiring choice to start our new hero’s story on another desert planet.

I’d like the new locations to be a little more ‘out of the box’ for that exact reason. Give us some new stuff that surprises us but ground it in some form of realism. I don’t mind another jungle/forest planet but at least put a new spin on it..

 

Agreed. Would have been great, for example, to stick a huge moon or moons in Jakku’s sky. Or like Yavin IV, a huge planet in the sky that it orbits (if Jakku were portrayed as a moon). Either that, or punch up the Mad Maxy attribured of the planet. More of the galactic junkyard elements. Or something else distinguishing it from Tatooine, such as we saw with Jedha (the latter of which is the pinnacle of Star Wars settings, IMO - one of the most believably rich places in science fiction that I’ve ever seen).

 

As boring as this may sound...I always prefer the SW planets as 1 environment planets.

 

I love Jehda. The best Star Wars planet for sure and I wish we saw more of it.
I wish they had kept in the high altitude shot of the U Wing flying across the landscape. That shot made it feel like a real planet.

The most complex planet we have is Tatooine. Townships and farming outposts, deserts and nomads. People groan at the thought of going back there, but I am all for fleshing it out a bit more.

 

That's something I always loved about ROTJ and TPM. Rather than just revisit the same places we saw in ANH, they introduced new locations and really fleshed out the world and culture of Tatooine. I'm more than happy to keep going back there as long as they can keep the world building up with new settlements and not just rely on nostalgic visits to the Mos Eisley Cantina.

Naboo has been quite diverse as well with Theed, Otoh Gunga, Lake Country, Jan-gwa City, Separatist Lab, underwater core, grass plains, swamp lands and ancient ruins. I'm happy to keep going back there as well if they can keep showcasing a new side of it.