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ST Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader) in IX

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by BalanceOfTheForce, Feb 13, 2018.

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Will Anakin appear in IX?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. DarthBane93

    DarthBane93 Force Ghost star 4

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    I never said others done care or those anicllary materials do not exist. My point is if its not addressed properly in the ST movies then there is a problem.

    Regarding the "This will make things right" quote, its open for interpretation and since this was the first SW after the prequels I will keep my personal interpretation that its a slight against the PT while at the same time trying to tell the audience that the new group at LFL will set it correctly, not incorrectly. If others have different interpretations, that is fine. So far, the ST has been lacking in connectivity to the PT which is fine. However JJ is opening himself up to further expectations and criticism by saying he will tie the saga all together. So IMO, if the focus is on Han Solo and not Anakin, I think thats a story problem. But thats my 2 cents.
     
  2. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    I think there seems to be some sort desire by LFL to distance itself away from Hayden Christensen, that's the impression I get, look how long it took to bring him to a Celebration. The new TCW episodes actually revolve around Ahsoka rather than Anakin, a character you can say was created outside of the PT and the furore that surrounded that trilogy. The actual TCW feature film was generally criticised by everyone outside the fanbase, yet the series won rave reviews, so in that it's understandable LFL would make more.
     
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  3. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Disney definitely was slighting against the PT back in 2015 with jokes about Jar Jar's bones, deleting podracer flags because the scenes would be all about podracing if someone noticed them, the real desert and practical effects angle, etc. Whether that was Disney or JJ is debatable. Most likely both.

    I think in 2019, Disney has realized they were fools and there's a market for PT stuff that people are willing to buy. When it comes to validating the PT in the ST, that would be a different story. Anakin is a controversial move because that would mean validating the 2004 SE of ROTJ and Hayden Christensen as Anakin (not Shaw or Matt Lanter).
     
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  4. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well if you wanna bring up the fact that they took a long time to bring him into celebration. which do we know if it was their choice??? but lets say it was their choice and not Hayden's choice not to go... they clearly got over it last year when he actually went to celebration, and again this year.

    They released fairly recently a thrawn novel with Hayden's likeness appears on the cover.

    I don't think its about Hiding hayden. i think its about using him for the right purpose, and not just using him because he is anakin and he should be given special treatment. because its the fact that he isn't getting special treatment that is getting some sensitive.
     
  5. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    The Rise of Skywalker.

    That would be a pretty tone-deaf title if Anakin isn't involved.

    *Anakin appears onscreen*
    Obi-Wan: What took you so long?
     
  6. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well the Podrace flag was JJs choice to remove. but then it might also have been his choice to have included it anyway.

    I think the problem was more the total opposite to what people are saying. fans reacted to the flag like it had some relevance to where they were going, and JJ probably didn't want this little nod to episode 1 to be taken the wrong way. there was no huge relevance to this flag in where they were going. it was just a little nod.

    As for practical effects, thats all JJ, he even talked about it at recent celebration.
     
  7. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Hayden is used as a legacy actor when it comes to appearances. Ahmed Best was there too but I doubt Jar Jar will been seen in film again.

    And you're right to some degree. Hayden's likeness is being used for Thrawn Alliances and Battlefront II. But those are supplementary compared to a trilogy that was fundamentally in 2015 about bringing back the good old days of SW. With JJ back at the helm, the public statement that Hayden "just wouldn't fit" is about as relevant as him saying "Podracing flags make the scenes all about podracing" but kept the Mandalorian symbols. Disney is aware of the market where Hayden would fit (like the Clone Wars stuff) but they are also aware a lot of ST fans enjoyed the distancing of the PT with TFA. I'd be shocked if Hayden, arguably the most controversial actor in SW, made an appearance because of that.
     
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  8. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Dropping tiny references to the PT really counts for little, whether it be podracing flags or mentions of clone armies, they're just so insignificant. Probably the best acknowledgement of the PT came in RO with Bail and Mon Mothma being played by their PT actors, though that probably more to do with Gareth Edwards being the driving force behind it. Abrams is rumoured to have PT era droids in TROS, probably more as background easter eggs than any significant role. We'll have to wait a little longer just to see if there is a genuine desire to tie up the whole 9 films and I guess if Palpatine's role is pivotal it will answer that.
     
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  9. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    I hope you are wrong ;)

    From people's reports of SW celebration, Hayden seemed coy when it was referred to of his possible appearance in future Star Wars.

    And JJ said something along the lines of the RoS story being about inheritances, both good and bad.
    And that both the production of the story, and the characters' stories, heavily reflects both the achievements and sins inherited by the earlier stories.

    It seems likely Anakin will appear.
     
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  10. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Unfortunately the biggest source of Hayden Christensen being in TROS rumours is the one and only Mr Zeroh.
     
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  11. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well whats interesting is how they brought back Maul for the Solo movie. the same Maul from episode 1 and Clone Wars. but mostly from episode one for anyone who didn't watch clone wars.

    And then they released the whole clip of Maul online. which was meant to be their surprise cameo, but the film wasn't doing great and they presumably thought it could help abit.

    And with Solo you could argue was also about the OT period.
     
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  12. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    Yes but that was just that Disney publicity and JJ who probably didn't know any better as opposed to Lucasfilm itself which did. JJ probably thought that he was actually paying some kind of honor to ANH and the OT with TFA in some way though it's very easy to point out that is exactly what he didn't do by effectively making a movie that wipes out those heroes accomplishments.

    Nothing controversial about it at all. Rather than do a normal recast of Tarkin they did a recast with CGI to make it look like Peter Cushing. Rather than recast Leia even in that way they instead are manipulating unused material. HC is Anakin, is in 3 movies himself plus his Anakin is everywhere as Anakin because that is what Anakin looks like.
     
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  13. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    Hey, at least he was right about Palpatine! :p [face_beatup]

    In all seriousness some of his information appears to have turned out true.
    Will wonders never cease.

    But I'm sticking to JJ and MSW for reliability.
    I don't think even JJ is stubborn enough not to include the original saga's (arguably) main character.
     
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  14. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    A broken clock is right twice a day.:p[face_laugh]
     
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  15. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    He got Palps right.[face_laugh]
     
  16. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    Lol beat ya to it.
     
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  17. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    "Well.. ya know, Master. I couldn't find a scene I really liked. With an open invitation and the right emotional capabilities.":p
     
  18. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    Lol I tried to think of something like that when I posted it.
    Well played.
     
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  19. wobbits

    wobbits Force Ghost star 4

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    Maul is not controversial in the way that @Deliveranze meant. People like the character and like Ray Park as a person from what I've read and seen in my experience in the online fandom.

    This is completely the opposite of Hayden. People love to actively hate him; making their wishes known that they'd prefer Matt Lanter to replace Hayden every chance they get. I wouldn't doubt that there is reluctance on the part of JJ and current Lucasfilm powers that be to include HC in film. Inviting him to the 40th anniversary Celebration two years ago was not the same as putting him back on screen as Anakin. I'm sure they are aware it would cause backlash amongst his most ardent haters.
     
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  20. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Lol well since we started it, might as well finish it. :p
    "If you practiced your Force Ghosting skills, your scene would rival Master Yoda as a cameo."

    "I thought I already did."

    "Only when the public gets to see it, my very young apprentice."
     
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  21. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    And didn't it cause such a stir at LFL.[face_rofl]
     
  22. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    To which I hope they respond similarly to us with a "Who cares?"
     
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  23. wobbits

    wobbits Force Ghost star 4

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    Oh I do too but I refuse to get my hopes up for it and end up sorely disappointed.
     
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  24. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Touching anything on the PT could be considered controversial. infact at this point if you wanted to be pick using anything from the last movie could be considered controversial too. INFACT wasn't there said to be an element in the movie thats considered controversial? we are kinda assuming its palpatine since even bringing back palpatine after his death in episode 6 could be considered controversial to some fans, and some ain't totally won over by the idea.

    At this point i think Star wars is gonna be controversial with some no matter what you do.
     
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  25. Chewie's flea powder

    Chewie's flea powder Jedi Knight star 1

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    That makes two sand planets for Anakin, he's not gonna be happy.
     
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