RJ Trilogy The Rian Johnson Trilogy

one thing, they lkied to work with so mutch they gave him that, and this belief that TLJ is as divisive as PT or worse just stupid. Yeah people liked it and didn't like it. But now it will be proven to be great for star wars.Cause unlike other directors or writers, he want unmask Star wars give it new life. For all we know all the others would do fan service and things already done in other media. Rian is here to stay.

 

Which of course many more will come to do more Star Wars content. I hope Michelle the Vice President of Lucasfilm will not stir up the fandom like Kathleen Kennedy did.

Maybe on her watch if she is the successor of Kathleen Kennedy, Rian Johnson’s trilogy could be cancelled and Disney is still treating it as a last resort.

 

I only know what I see. I've only been a fan since 2005, so I wasn't even around for the PT. I don't know how bad things were or weren't back then. Since 2005 though I have never seen things as bad as they have been post-TLJ.

I don't think we should assume that Rian Johnson is the only director who wouldn't do OT fanservice though. I don't think Star Wars needs to be "unmasked" in order to be given new life. Why couldn't a director build on what Lucas created instead of deconstructing it? It's a different creative philosophy than Johnson took in TLJ, but it has the potential to be just as, if not more, different than what came before.

 

Can't wait for the RJ trilogy starting in December 2028 yes that's right 2028 cause how else will it fit in ? the GOT team's trilogy is Dec 2022 , Dec 2024 & Dec 2026 while Disney's Avatar sequels play out in Dec 2021 , Dec 2023 , Dec 2025 & Dec 2027 and I can't see Disney risking May again after the Solo debacle and Disney no longer want to saturate Star Wars movies and one every 2 years looks like what they want.........

 

Rian in 23, 25, 27. They not released the full all movies in development yet witch gonna have release dates. Avatar will change release dates if they Rian's movies out there. I can see them doing may, but with more planning and marketing. I still think they do every other year as that worked perfectly for them until Solo.

 

I must admit, I'm a little lost with Disney's dates and just what they can be. At first I thought they were all for the Game of Thrones-guy's trilogy, but now I'm not so sure. Either way, I can't see them or RJ waiting around for seven to ten years, because that's literally how long they would be waiting for. They've just signed a huge deal with Netflix, whereas Rian, at least by the New Year, will be a free agent. I really don't know what we're getting first and, I have to be honest, a part of me isn't sure whether we're going to get both.

 

And here it goes, yet another unsupported claim that Rian Johnson didn't build upon what Lucas did but did instead "deconstructed" it. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean that it somehow didn't build upon what came before. This whole idea is just nonsensical. There are a ton of different opinions on what is or isn't Star Wars. Just because a director had a different idea about it than you do, doesn't somehow mean that your ideas are the logical way to go and his just deviate from what it "should be" entirely. I really don't understand why some people can't accept the fact that other Star Wars fans (and this includes Rian Johnson) have different opinions on what the best approach to a story is. This doesn't somehow mean that they "don't understand Star Wars", or that someone like Johnson should be replaced by someone who tries his best to "offend" as few fans as possible. The latter is simply not how storytelling works.

Rian Johnson told the story he wanted to tell, based on the material that was given to him by TFA. That is what a writer/director always should do, it is in fact what Lucas always did and what he wanted other people to do with Star Wars. Nobody has to like what a creator has to offer, but at the same time it doesn't make any kind of sense to pretend that the own opinion somehow defines what Star Wars is, and to demand that every creator has to adhere to that guideline (not saying you do this , this is a general comment).

The fandom has been split in the past. There is absolutely nothing unique about the divisiveness created by TLJ. The only true difference to the past, is that nowadays you have far more keyboard-warriors who can scream and shout on the internet. There are so many different stances in regard to Star Wars, that it simply makes no sense whatsoever to pretend that Rian Johnson somehow did anything to the fanbase that didn't exist before. Even before the new movies came out there had been a significant split in opinion, and logic dictates that such opinions will split into smaller and smaller subgroups the more content there is. There have been people who only like the OT, people who already didn't like the way ROTJ went, people who didn't like the Special Editions, people who didn't like the PT, people who liked the PT but maybe not all the stuff that came before. Now there are people who just like the OT, people who like the OT and PT but not the ST, people who like the OT and ST but not the PT, and a whole lot of different opinions in between. There are people who liked the old EU, and people who didn't care about it. And that whole group split into further groups, because the EU was quite vast to begin with. There simply is no unique split in the fanbase that didn't exist before, just a bunch of people who complain, because this time it is them who didn't like something. Some go with grumbling acceptance that this is something that could happen, that they might not like some new content but that you have to accept that it exists, hoping that future content will be more to their liking. Others prefer to act offended and entitled, constantly telling everyone in every topic, regardless of whether it fits or not, how person X ruined Star Wars, how they don't understand anything about the franchise, and in some cases even directly insult those who made the content or other fans. This existed with the old EU, it existed with the Special Editions, it existed with the PT.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with liking only some of the stuff. It would indeed be rather weird if someone ended up liking every single Star Wars content ever created, as there is just way too much of it for that to be likely. What is wrong however, is when someone starts to be entitled about the whole thing. Star Wars doesn't belong to any fan, and it doesn't get defined by what a specific fan wants. It is the sum of what the creators came up with, and everyone is free to like and dislike, or to ignore content.

 

The problem is that Rian's story feels, to me, to be very disconnected from the material given to him by TFA. It feels as if he did not particularly care for any of the story threads set up in Episode 7 and so decided to disregard them completely. That may satisfy Rian Johnson the writer, but it can be very dissatisfying for the viewer when he is trying to reconcile a three act story where the second act doesn't really progress or connect in a coherent way to the first. In fact, to me the story feels stalled and now has to be resolved in just one final installment.

These aren't art-house pictures or vanity projects for Rian Johnson, but it sure feels like he thinks they are.

 

Star Wars under George was always pretty much "arthouse" & "vanity", at least as much as a blockbuster can be. George is that guy to a tee, in the best possible way.

 

I personally found the way he handled TLJ distasteful, but the characters and setting were mostly not his. I can't say I'm that excited about his trilogy, but TLJ doesn't really give us an idea of what he will do with a Star Wars story of his own invention.

 

For the 18,345,678th time this isn't a thread to relitigate TLJ. This is about the new trilogy.

 

Rian's the great satan though, remember? Everything he touches turns to poop! This whole trilogy will by default.

Guys on the innernetz said so.

 

Might as well lock this thread until there is something about this trilogy to talk about.

 

Nah. If you can't think of anything to talk about that's on topic then just ignore the thread. Pretty simple.

 

I have one, out with the old in with the new the Rian approach.

 

There is nothing to talk about. Which is why it keeps going back to TLJ.

He was speaking but his words were empty and meaningless.

 

Then... don’t post? If there’s nothing to talk about, then don’t talk? There are plenty of other threads in the forum. We’ll be keeping the thread open because, again, we want to allow posters to speculate about what the trilogy could entail. RJ just spoke about the films as recently as a few days ago. We have every reason to keep it open, but if you don’t feel there’s anything to talk about, then the solution is as simple as not hitting “post reply.”

 

Apologies. It's just that TLJ is a primary reference for what any future Rian Johnson helmed Star Wars might (will) look like.

 

The kind of split we experienced with TLJ only happened once before, during TPM. And Lucas clearly made every attempt to not make the same mistakes again with AOTC and ROTS. While Lucas defended TPM because he believed in it, he pulled way back on Jar Jar in the next two installments. To me, RJ should have been handled like Jar Jar. If so many fans were unhappy, you can stand by what you've done, but you need to pull back on future usage.

You can't please everyone, but you can at least try to avoid repeating something that so many fans clearly disliked.

 

I guess I'm just going to have to start handing out bans. Enjoy your timeout.

 

oh for a minute thought you meant me, since i got Quoted.lol

 

If Johnson's trilogy takes place after the ST like I suspect it does, then I think it's smart of Lucasfilm to give it a proper release gap from away from the sequel trilogy. Let Johnson take his time with developing and mapping it all out, rather than rushing to make a set of release dates.

 

Yeah, far-in-future is way more intriguing to me than far-in-the-past. Hope they go that way.

Either that or just, like, current-day but in a totally different region of the GFFA, even unknown, dealing with completely new stuff and sort of cut off from most of the usual conflict.

 

I hate TLJ, and if you like TLJ, I hate you.

No, I kid. I still hold out for some "corner of the galaxy" story away from any of the other events of the GFFA; a situation where time frames are irrelevant. Given Rian's description, that may just end up being the case.

At least those conspiracy theories seem to be dead, as they took up way too much space on these boards (remember the time, since Iger didn't specifically mention Rian in his brief statement on Star Wars, that meant Rian had been removed from SW? lol, this forum went round and round on that one). We are now firmly established in Rian actually making SW movies, all conspiracies aside..