ST Rey & Kylo Ren in Episode IX

I think he doesn’t even get there cause Rey’s all “you saved me and I wub you” <3

Or more specifically, I read there’s some cringe dialogue about Rey wanting to take Ben’s hand after she saves him after he was beating the F out of her, and then later Ben mirrors that with saying she wanted to take his hand. Then Rey jumps his bones, because she just can’t resist that Nazi bod.

 

He literally dies for her, is that somehow less meaningful than a verbal apology?

 

Yes. It is. Because Benny isn't admitting he's wrong. Just that he wants her alive. BIG difference.

 

Yeah, he should've given her a "sorry I threw you into that tree" card before sacrificing his life to revive her from death, that thoughtless jerk.

 

Or maybe with less sarcasm. I'm sorry.

 

I don’t give a crap if Kylo is sorry for ever harming Rey. Rey has no self respect anyway so why should I care.

But yeah, Kylo caring about his crimes is way more important to his redemption than Kylo caring to cheat death Plagueis-style on Rey.

 

Could this be the first post ?:

"john be a girl and run a pro reylo account for an hour and see how you could handle people popping off on you, slut slamming you, and bullying you.. BC WE HAVE DEALT WITH IT FOR 6 *EXPLETIVE* YEARS AND THIS FANDOM IS FULL OF THE STRONGEST CHICKS I KNOW BRO"

Lets talk about their oppression less than a week after their attempt to ruin an actor's rep because he's iffy about tlj.

Can we have a "Kylo Is Dead" celebration thread while we're at it? Because I knew the dude would croak.

 

Very glad that they’ve taken a harder line between the difference of Kylo Ren and Ben Solo the same way I have always treated Darth Vader vs Anakin Skywalker.

 

So as expected many people are pissed at the devlopments, I may still end up liking it but there's no denying people are mad. Reylos are pissed at Ben's death and many people are pissed at Anakin getting undermined by Rey too much it seems. So allow me to pitch something I believe could've poteinally killed both these birds with one stone and pleased more people.

Anakin should've been the one to heal Rey. Hear me out on this.

So Rey dies, and Ben finds her and tries to heal her. He can't, he's too weak, he tries again and again, he's too weak. He becomes more and more frustrated and angry, more Sithlike, she's gone and it hurts bad, he has no one left, some his fault some not. He's becoming Kylo again.

Before that happens Anakin's ghost put his hand on Rey and heals her. He then steps aside and Ben runs in so he and Rey can have their little moment as Anakin watches on.

What this acomplishes
1) Ben Solo lives. I know many hate him and don't think he deserves to live. But many fans do, and I think even more would accept it paired with this Anakin moment.

2) This fulfills the chosen one prophecy. Him healing Rey in that moment stops Ben from turning to the darkside and becoming a Sith. He brings balance to the force not by killing Ben, but by "saving what he loves".

3) It somewhat redeems Anakin killing Padme. He wanted to save Padme from death and did the opposite. But in the end he saves his grandchild's love instead.

Thoughts?

 

There’s head canon opportunity for fans to make this better for themselves if they wish. Anakin is one with the force so the idea that he is somehow part of this power as one with the force is fine head canon if that works for some fans. Ultimately it’s your personal experience. Not others.

 

How the kiss goes down:

Ben climbs out of the pit, sees fallen Rey from a distance and rushes over as best he can, limping. He gets to her and pulls her into his lap and holds her to his chest, heartbroken. Then he calms himself, leans her back, lays hands, and revives her.

When she comes back, she holds his hand, looks into his eyes, smiles huge, calls him Ben, and they have a solid full contact kiss for about 2 seconds? He smiles back. Then he abruptly falls over dead, she touches him, and he vanishes.

The falls over dead bit the way the leaker describes it sounds a bit comedic, but it sounds really tender overall.

I''m just glad we got a kiss.

Edit more about he holds her as he's healing her:

Ugh it's so ****ing soft and romantic. He pulls her into his lap, arms wrapped around her. Then lifted her up to his chest and neck and put his face in her neck he was so hurt it was so gughfhghtf. I wanna see just the kiss again.

 

There's a comment saying it causes an emotional whiplash for some. Espeically people really invested in the dynamic, like a "Yes finall-aww he's gone" moment.

They should've created an inevitabliy to it, so everyone watching understands he will die when he does it. That way the kiss really feels like a thank you and goodbye rather then getting caught off guard by his death.

 

Even if we find out 100% the kiss is real. This is still without the context of the entire movie. This kiss could be nothing more then what you see between a parent and a child or siblings. And if that's the case there is nothing romantic about it. Also, people kiss dead corpses all the time as some form of saying goodbye/sympathy. So I don't think anyone should be counting their chickens yet on what kind of kiss this is yet. Because if it's the way I described it that is the most anti-reylo thing you could do and there's nothing tender or romantic about that. Nor should there be, but we'll find out soon, won't we.

 

Importantly in the writing, he’s head canon for the protagonist too. Some of the criticism of this movie is that the emotion is unearned. Um gee whiz, I wonder if Rey boo hooing over and making out with someone she only ever knew as a Nazi qualifies.

 

Pretty sure people have confirmed on redit it's a romantic type kiss, like 5 seconds. They said she cries aswell so yeah.

 

The descriptions in purple is quoted directly from someone who attended the premiere. He's very much alive and smiling back at her when they kiss. He only collapses after the fact.

She also said he just dissapears into the ground. She doesn't absorb him or anything . He dies because he spent the last of his energy bringing her back to life

 

Also can you link your source for me please?

 

The problem, however, is kisses can all be interrupted differently. This is why I said until I see the whole film to add the context I'm not going to buy it as a Reylo moment or not. And I think it's premature to assume it to be anything without seeing it for yourselves. I just learned today there are people who view Finn and Rose's kiss not as romantic, where I do. Not that I ship them together or anything like firm Poe/Finn shipper right here. However, it just reminded me that it is all in how we view it. So chances are just because you may still end up seeing it as a romantic kiss after seeing the movie, that I will or others will.

 

I recall a few years ago being constantly told on this forum, including by some posting in this thread today, that I was imagining Reylo. Apparently the writers and directors of the films were imaging it too.

Or maybe it’s the 5 dollar bribe I sent them. I guess we’ll never know.

 

I will in DM. Its a private twitter, so its dependent on her accepting your follow.

 

Well consider yourself even with all the people that were told they were imagining things to not see Reylo.

And I still think Reylo doesn’t exist in TFA unless people are going all in with straight up abuse fetish by JJ.