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The Mandalorian Carasynthia Dune (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Jedi Knight Fett, Dec 27, 2019.

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  1. MarcelloF91

    MarcelloF91 Jedi Knight

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    Lucy Lawless deserves a better character.
     
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  2. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    They could always CGI her face onto a stand in for brief appearances in the future?
     
  3. Wilhuff's Slippers

    Wilhuff's Slippers Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think it’s possible that once the dust has settled the character may feature in a novel/graphic novel or animated series (voiced by someone other than Carano, obviously)
     
  4. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    And finally cast a ginger.
     
  5. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The biggest loss here is to Filoni/Favreau’s vision. Until now it seemed like they were given creative freedom rather than other projects where it seems like they were following a checklist of executive’s ideas. Now their show is compromised and they have to work around that.

    I know George Lucas reportedly made some changes in response to audience reaction, but he would never have sunk to changing his stories off the reception of some twitter users. Fan feedback is different than fan entitlement.
     
  6. ArtemusGordon

    ArtemusGordon Jedi Master star 1

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    There was a lawsuit over something like that for Back to the Future Part II, so I can't possibly imagine they would get away with that.
     
  7. Lobey-One Kenobi

    Lobey-One Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    Cara Dune not being in Season 3 and beyond isn't show-destroying, but it is a gap that needs to be filled. I didn't know she was meant to be getting her own spin-off until recently, but I couldn't have seen her heading an entire show - she's definitely no more than a supporting character in my eyes. I'd rather they didn't go the route of recasts. Season 3 can probably work without her, Mando will be busy sorting out Darksaber beef with Bo-Katan; but maybe at the end of the season they can have Mando called for help by her; but when he arrives we only see her corpse and then a cut to Gideon or some other Big Bad laughing as they fly away. Could set up Season 4, and move on from Dune. In the future having her backstory explored in the comics/ books as @Wilhuff's Slippers suggested.

    They'll have to address it; whether through a recast or killing her off/on-screen. It'll feel tonally off if they don't.
     
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  8. Mr Bogan

    Mr Bogan Jedi Master star 1

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    I hope not. Nothing against Lucy, but I'm not too fond of recasts. Cara Dune is what Gina Carano made her.
    So, my hope is that we're told:

    a) Cara Dune was killed in the line of duty (by a bounty hunter or imps, whatever);
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    b) She accepted the offer to work for the new Republic and was sent to keep the peace somewhere else in the GFFA.
     
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  9. ArtemusGordon

    ArtemusGordon Jedi Master star 1

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    I don't think they really have to address it unless they go back to Nevarro (which I suppose is not unlikely), particularly if season 3 takes the likely route of a minor time jump and is about retaking Mandalore, a conflict the character would have no particular investment in.
     
  10. Jedi Master Scorpio

    Jedi Master Scorpio Star Wars Television star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't see this as a big glaring issue. I'm sure they can work around this easy enough. It's not even in the same ball park as a Chadwick Bozeman and Carrie Fischer situation.

    They can kill her offscreen or as others have said, mention that she got a promotion and her services were needed elsewhere.
     
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  11. Lobey-One Kenobi

    Lobey-One Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    Yeah, which is what I said. She can be rested throughout S3 because there's other fish to fry for Mando, but eventually, they'll have to address it. What are the chances Mando won't return to Nevarro ever again?

    Yeah, exactly. Addressing it off-screen or on-screen is fine either way, but it will have to be addressed in some fashion, at least.
     
  12. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    If Mando Season 3 comes out and is awesome, which chances are that it will be, no one will care about Carasynthia Dune. She appeared in 4 or 5 episodes.
    Her character won't be missed, especially since this show has many great female characters already, and there's always room for more.


    How was it confirmed she would get her own show? Between 10 new shows and Gina Garano not exactly being a method actor, I don't believe for a second she would get a show where she'd be the main. Maybe she'd have a prominent role in ROTNR, but I don't see how F+F would give her an entire show. Who starts these rumors?
     
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  13. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah that's a fair point. It was just an bit of an idea.

    Not going to argue with that lol.
     
  14. TheYodaPagoda

    TheYodaPagoda Force Ghost star 4

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    You don't speak for me. I feel like her absence will be significant.
    I'll miss her character. I bought a Cara Dune action figure! I expected a Hot Toys figure to be released, but I don't think so now.
    Who cares now? Cara Dune isn't on any of these shows anymore, aside from footage they've already filmed.

    Does she die? Does she get promoted and ends up off screen? I predict a time jump, but until the creators make some sort of statement akin to JJ Abrams addressing Carrie Fisher's death, I'd rather not speculate too much.
     
  15. FromDromundKaasWithLove

    FromDromundKaasWithLove Jedi Master star 3

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    Is it me or does Lucy Lawless just not age?
     
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  16. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    She does not. 100% convinced she's immortal.
     
  17. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Hater of Mace Windu star 7

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    I could absolutely see George Lucas doing this. It's not "some Twitter users." She's said some pretty terrible things (which I won't get in to). I guess we'll never know as George was never put in that position, but I think he would have written the character out. I do think that's what Filoni and Favreau should do.
     
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  18. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I think she should have not come back because she just wasn’t a good actress. The show will be better off without her. Give Bill Burr more time he’s actually a good actor
     
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  19. Blueandwhite

    Blueandwhite Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    I think this is a huge exaggeration. The loss of a minor character isn't going to do squat to Filoni or Favereau's vision. If Cara Dune is actually a key character they will simply recast her. Alternatively, if she is nothing more than a minor guest character the show will simply move on without her and nobody will notice. Movies have had to recast far bigger parts than Cara Dune and suffered no real consequences. Heck, Favereau had to recast War Machine in Iron Man 2 and the MCU continued without a hitch. Honestly, Carano's firing will likely have absolutely no impact on the long-term success of this show.
     
  20. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The last time Din Djarin felt need to interact with her she had taken a gig in a backwater. The writing will only need to be as simple as Din having no reason to visit that backwater again. She's policing in some hole in the dirt. He's got the entire weight of Mandalorian culture weighing on him. There's zero reason for them to have any need to see each other again.
     
  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    But I want to see Greef again.
     
  22. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I see it this way:

    As it is, Cara was a functional occasionally supporting character defined primarily by stunt casting in a show that wasn’t truly an ensemble show in the first place, and who’s actress lost her job after the show completed its initial set-up.

    The character had potential to become more... but always had a bit of a ceiling in the current set-up stemming from the limited skills of the actress and the context of the show around her. That’s not to say she “couldn’t” be more, or that Filoni and Favreau couldn’t desire to make her more... but she was a more work intensive “project” than other characters because of those trait.

    So while she could become an intrinsic character to plans going forward... I don’t think she was actually there yet, and thus is still replaceable if she was to serve some major role there.
     
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  23. cwustudent

    cwustudent Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Din: Where's Cara?
    Greef: She's at the supermarket. She says hi.
     
  24. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think George would have a little more perspective than just knee jerk reactions. Lucas was falsely slandered as a racist/antisemite by critics who didn't like the prequels. But the difference is that Lucas didn't have a soulless corporation to answer to so these eventually just blew over. Ironically he faced more controversy over his "white slaver" comment, which Disney was quick to wrestle an apology out of him for.

    I see Twitter brigades come and go whether people want to retcon the sequels, fire a host, recast an actor, etc. They shouldn't be humoring any that.

    And I think the firing is an exaggeration. Agree to disagree.

    I wouldn't speak on behalf of them for a character that's been featured on tons of marketing material in addition to having a major reoccurring role.

    Honestly I 100% agree with the first part. People were not immediately sold on the character for that reason, and it took a good amount of time for fans to see how the character worked into plot. And while it might look like the character didn't have immediate future plans, I think that decision should be handled solely by the creative forces and not online brigades. Sometimes the setups to spinoffs aren't as obvious; like the Bad Batch seemed like they only had a single arc in the Clone Wars, but this was setup for a spinoff.
     
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  25. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    And not to get too deep into politics here, because that is NOT what this thread is for as the mods have pointed out...

    What I’m specifically saying is that nothing was really lost because Cara was a more work intensive character than she need to be to realize her potential.

    The bulk of her potential can be compensated for with a more skilled actress or actor with the right background in a scene or two; in the same way that Greef Carga shows his actor’s skills could cover a whole lot of unintended ground very quickly (since he was supposed to be die originally), hiring someone charismatic to take Cara’s role or an analogue means she can be replaced without batting an eyelash.

    Part of Carano’s issue was that she wasn’t talented enough at the acting to afford as long of a chain as she tugged on.
     
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