Mini Series Obi-Wan Kenobi - Part 4 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Wasn't there also a moment where she's clearly talking to somebody secretly, (Obi-Wan), while she's sitting next to another officer and the officer even kinda raises an eyebrow or looks in her direction as to say, "hmm, that's funny, who's she talking to under hushed tones? Eh whatever. Back to work." That's just terrible. Hahahaha!!!!

 

Not to mention that a pint sized child would stand out in an Imperial base full of adults

 

I respect your Viewpoint but disagree with your hypothesis, there's a difference between light and dark and dark and absurd. There are a hundred other ways to add some humor or levity in the situation without falling into the Absurd and that's what this episode did, it has tonal issues throughout to me. From the trailers and marketing we were promised a character study of Obi Wan going through ptsd and while we did get some of that, it quickly fell away, and we went right back to the lone wolf/ cub story which we have now seen three times in three or so years. This, mando and the bad batch. I was all for the idea of rescuing young Leia and was wanting to get him off the planet because like most I was ready to leave Tatooine, but I didn't think it needed to be the Crux of the whole story and still don't. even though I think that's the best part of the show, is their relationship. but once again just like infiltrating the base was a retread, so was this show dynamic. For the record I don't think you cant ever do these type of stories again, I just think they need to be spaced out more instead of them right on top of each other. But I digress I don't mean to get off topic, like I said George's prequel movies stayed in a range of tonal consistency to me, this show has not to me. We are roughly 66% through the show and I feel like we're just spinning our Wheels to a certain extent, and the show is not knowing exactly what it wants to be. Does it want to be a character study of Obi Wan? Does it want to be a Shakespeare tragedy of Obi Wan and Vader? Does it want to be a lone wolf cub show, or some type of mixture of everything with only 6 episodes to do it in, which is not working for me. I think that is my other issue, not just the Ridiculousness of the dumb Stormtroopers and the coat, but the actual plot of the story is not keeping me entertained as a whole. so those gaps and eye rolls become chasms to me. Also Star Wars used to be the Apex of what a film could look like and a lot of this show seems rinky-dink to me, to a certain extent. which is also deflating.

 

Put a garbage can over her and pretend she’s a droid.

 

It is silly. I won’t deny it. However, it is important to acknowledge within the franchise IP’s DNA there’s always been usage of the rank differences and seniority differences for drama. Jr officers see their senior officers being choked out by Vader and just awkwardly get back to their tasks as the man behind them dies directly behind them while talking to someone else on a screen. A lot of these subordinates know there’s all kinds of crazy stuff occurring around them and just put their heads down. She was a high ranking officer. This guy found it odd but then realized her rank and was like, “Yeah, not my problem.” Even if he did have great audio he probably still couldn’t tell for sure what was even occurring. These guys are all so trusting of others in uniform. It’s just part of the franchise DNA at this point.

I will say that all this silly villain stuff is precisely why so many of the fans who have wanted more realism and more seriousness love Thrawn so much. It’s no wonder he rose to the top as fast as he did around so many other imbeciles. He also learned from previous mistakes. I think he’s going to become a very popular live action character once he debuts. He is probably the best non-force using villain in Star Wars history and he works so well for so many people because he addresses many of the lack of realism concerns people have had for Star Wars for a long time. He asks the questions they wish the villains would ask more often. He’s also a character that I don’t think Lucas himself would have ever made for Star Wars. He’s like a Trek villain who found his way into Star Wars.

 

Then the writers would get vilified for copying TLJ when they did that with BB-8.

 

OK. Put a robe on her and pretend she’s a Jawa.

 

They should probably get villified for placing garbage bins at the operation base of Fortress Inquisitorius

 

Yes it was kind of hinted at, just like you could clearly hear her choking out the Imperial officer. I guess he thought this is above my paygrade I'm not getting involved. or maybe her talking to her fist and seeing the dead body is only circumstantial evidence, not enough to actually raise the alarm.

 

I feel like Star Wars fans expecting Imperial Stormtroopers and Officers to be competent is like Charlie Brown expecting to kick that football. These guys were defeated by a bunch of teddy bears with rocks and spears after all.

 

Some competence would be better. Imperial officers are apparently only there to be suspicious of one another, pace around with their arms behind their backs, demand identification, and get irredeemably put in their place verbally with biting pointless dialog that does nothing to create any kind of dimension for the situation.

At least let us know why they're always watching people push buttons in rooms with lots of buttons and very high ceilings. Maybe a guy could get caught playing Galaga.

 

But Reva isn't novel because they took her character wholesale from another Inquisitor who did it first. Inquisitor's aren't new ground anymore and Reva especially is copying another's character so closely she loses any chance at uniqueness

Its actually impossible to not compare her to Trilla, she is doing the same character with the same beats to a T. But with worse writing

It's not fair to Moses at all, why did they decide to give her the "wikipedia summary of Trilla Suduri" as her character material?

 

That could have been so easily explained away if all the imperials seated their were talking over coms working a dispatch or switch board.

 

Just so you know it would've been okay to say "it is silly" and leave it at that. No need to come up with an in-universe explanation for why this happened. It was just bad writing.

 

I did not like the Mortis story arc because Anakin, Kenobi and Ahsoka were in it (though it definitely added), but because it was something new about The Force and it was something awesome new. I would have loved the Mortis arc even without those 3 legendary characters. Also, Ahsoka is Filoni's addition to the saga, not Lucas'. And I love her more than most "legendary" characters.

And how were the Nightsisters linked to Lucas' saga? They are a new faction of Force users.

Same thing with Bendu. He is not linked to anything relevant to the movies. And he's part of a show that has all new characters.

Kanan, Hera, Sabine Wren, Zeb and Ezra Bridger are now parts of the same sandbox called Star Wars, and I love them as much as I love all other characters in the saga.

I can even go to the Knights of The Old Republic game series, and add that all of these ancient Jedi and Sith and the supporting characters are fascinating to me, and they don't really have anything that links them to George Lucas characters.

 

You don’t it makes sense. It’s still silly though

 

Have you ever worked in an office? Try to keep your focus on your data inputs while the blabbermouth at the next desk is going on and on with a boring conversation on his personal cellphone. IMO, the other officer's look said, "Do you mind? I'm trying to get some work done here."

 

Fly the T-47 underwater, tell Leia to hold her breath!

 

A few silly moments but on the whole i thought it was a correct episode. When i first read the comments here before watching i was afraid we were going straight into cartooney territory and epic cringe but the problems discussed here didnt bother me that much in the end. No flying inquisitor, "like a bantha" or stuff like that, it was more a case of slight suspension of disbelief, but SW has never been really realistic, it wasnt good writing of course. But nothing deal breaking.

So yes it was an ok/good episode. Same problem as before: entertaining but totally unecessary as a SW series. And always risking to break/alter continuity...the problem is that they have to write a storyline that matters somehow so there's tension and excitement, and at the same time not matter too much because of the timeline and movies happening later.

 

"Like A Bantha" is one of the best moments in all of Star Wars, what do you mean?

 

After the latest episode, I do want to make a scientific survey and figure out what is the correlation between placed in a bacta tank and having nightmares that feel like PTSD. I guess if some event places you in a bacta tank, it must have been traumatizing, but maybe the bacta enhances that PTSD. Maybe these microorganisms work their way to heal the people mentally too, therefore cause more nightmares to help the defragment of the brain and remove the "bad" brain cells. I may have gotten carried away with that.

 

Yeah one hand I admire the convoluted in Universe reason why stuff like this happens, but it really is okay to just say it's silly and it either works for you or it does not. It is also okay to say stuff needs to be improved going forward over the decades. Was some silly stuff in the original movies and the prequels, oh god, most definitely, but could and should some of that be improved upon with new series in the year 2022 also yes. Two things can be true at the same time.

 

Ha. But let’s not forget she was a rando. If a rando I’d never seen before sat next to me at work and started talking into their hand I’d be all, “who the hell are you and why are you here?”