PT Anyone agree on how Mace is so OP in The Clone Wars (2003)?

Again, it's a stylized cartoon. And again, the big displays of power in CW are reserved for Master characters. I find that a lot easier to swallow than OP student characters like Ahsoka, Rey, Starkiller, etc.

And even disregarding that... Mace fought against droids. It's an awesome action scene, but it's not that big of an achievement. Definitely not the same as fighting a Sith Master one on one. The scene with Mace punching into a ship and steering it by grabbing some loose wires is probably more over-the-top.

 

Rey is nowhere near as over powered as you're making out.

 

You mean saying she's overpowered at all? And yes, she is.

But this thread is about CW Mace being OP, not Rey.

 

Mace is obviously over-the-top in the show, like almost everything. But it was intentional. The key events of the show really happened in the Legends continuity, but what we see in the show is an exaggerated version of them, therefore the viewer doesn't have to take what's depicted in the show literally. It's like The Force Unleashed: yeah, the events from the video game really happened in the Legends continuity, but what's depicted in the game is simply an exaggerated version of the real events, while the novelization is what really happened. If I remember correctly there are comic adaptations of the 2003 Clone Wars episodes. Well, perhaps those adaptations are what really happened, while the episodes of the TV show are just an exaggerated version of the real events.

 

There's original stories in the 2003 art style, but not as far as I know, adaptations.

You may be thinking of 2008's Slaves of the Republic, which was an adaptation of TCW's Zygerria episode arc, or vice versa (TCW's version takes precedence).

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars:_Slaves_of_the_Republic

The newcanon has had some allusions to them as well. In the newcanon novel Brotherhood, Mace fighting droids on Dantooine got a mention, and Jedi being ambushed on Hypori near a crashed Acclamator, was mentioned in the newcanon novel Catalyst.

 

I thought the Microseries was a lot of fun and perfect for its time. I definitely thought the action got a bit silly at times though, and Mace taking out all those super battle droids was the quintessential example of that.

TCW isn’t perfect, but it’s a much richer experience to me, and feels close to the world of the films, especially visually. Apart from the more stylized character designs, I could mistake many of the widescreen images for shots from a GL Star Wars movie.

Of course everyone is free to have their preferences, but it blows my mind when people can place the Microseries in their canon over TCW, simply because it’s designed as such a heightened experience and not very consistent with the films.

I also wonder if some people have based their opinions of TCW on the movie and early episodes, because if so they’re really not representative of the overall tone and quality of the series as a whole.

 

Anakin was also OP since the Episode 1 does anyone remember Anakin destroying an entire Trade Federation Space Station alone as a Kid?

In TCW Anakin Ahsoka and Obi Wan destroy Droids in amazing ways similar to 2003 Clone Wars Show TCW Jedi are OP too

 

That wasn't on purpose.

 

It wasn’t that OP, the only skill involved was piloting

 

the TPM Anakin bit is hilarious

Proceeds to hit all the wrong buttons "maybe it's this one ooops"

*10 seconds later*

"Artoo take us of this autopilot it's gonna get us BOTH killed" (why the emphasis on both?)


-he becomes an expert on Naboo starships in less than 10 mins-

comedy gold.

 

Yeah it's kinda funny how Rey is supposed to train like Luke before she can touch a lightsaber, but Anakin is just automatically a brilliant pilot right out the gate and that's OK.

Oh yeah and CW cartoon is obviously exaggerated for effect. The Mace episode the the coolest *because* it's so over-the-top.

 

Being a pilot has nothing to do with being able to use a lightsaber well enough to battle and win against someone(not touching it, but use it well enough to win believably) whose trained at it . But also Anakin isn't brilliant, he has fast reflexes. It's even said he hasn't even finished a race. He's good at it, has worked at it, naturally attuned to fast reflexes with it, but not developed as an expert in TPM, so it's not comparable.

Expert? His win there at the end is by accident.

 

did you purposely not read the quote in this very post...?

 

He's the *only* human who can do it.

 

I think I may have misunderstood the meaning of what you were saying. Looking at it now, were you mocking the idea of Anakin as brilliant? If so, I'm sorry for my misunderstanding.

That doesn't make him brilliant at it. If at all, moreso brilliant for a human, and I think it's suggested that he is because he's force sensitive.

 

He also could Won a Podracing Race as 9 Year Old, R2-D2 and C-3PO can fight the Separatist as we saw on TCW Show

 

Not to mention Luke's very brief training before he performed incredible feats at the Death Star. Who taught Luke how to bring his lightsaber to him in the wampa's lair? It wasn't Ben. The point is, training isn't everything and it never was. Especially for these Chosen One type characters.

 

He won after getting advice in force use from Qui-Gon. I don't know the droid thing matters to this.

What incredible feats? Focusing well enough to hit a target?

Oh please. Lightsaber pulling is the least of the issues with Rey. But at least Luke had some legit knowledge of the force when he did it.

 

Dooku was like 80 Year Old nearly 90 and he is still could use Force Jump and Fight in the Clone Wars Dooku wasnt worried about being Old Yoda was 900 Year Old and could still Fight how is that Realistic? Star Wars is more a Fantasy Franchise its not Realistic Sci Fi so Mace Windu scenes in Tartakovsky Clone Wars Show are acceptable for the Star Wars World