Discussions Your Personal Canon

no its not

 

canon is dawn of the jedi tales of the jedi kotor 1 2 and kotor 3 jedi masters heart of darkness the prequel novelizations except padme doesn´t die at the end of rots she die between episodes 3 and 4 the original versions of the original trilogy bounty hunter clone wars novels comics and games from the old multimedia project the clone wars 2d series old wound the purge comic droids cartoon escape from aaron tfu1 and tfu 2 the version of the holiday special from the original draft splinter of the minds eye the old marvell comics set between anh and esb rebel mission to ord mantell the mixed up droid droid world planet of the hoojibs caravan of courage and shadows shadows of the empire and tcw is new republic and compnor propaganda the droids marvell and darkhorse comics did happened but not exacly how those events are depicted in the comics and c3po r2 and prince plooz never travelled years into the future to endor the events of the droids mycomics did happened exactly how those events are depicted in the comics the ewoks cartoon is a holodrama show for children created by cindel and its not canon and the ewoks comics the ewoks adventure books are just non canon and the second ewoks movie is also non canon and ewoks on ice is a holodrama show created by cindel to and its also non canon and after rotj nothing is canon and the empire is no more after rotj.there weren´t any empire remnants after rotj

 

i only double post because i can´t edit

 

and since i can´t edit or double post that means i cannot uptade my canon

 

i can´t even delete comments so i couldn´t neither delete my previous comment

 

There is a time limit on the possibility of editing posts. You can edit for the first thirty minutes, then you can't do it anymore.

 

thats because you can´t edit even in the first thirty minutes

 

im sure there are people that will understand what i posted easily

 

For me is now this
Canon Universe the EU Timeline the Clone Wars Multimedia Project is the Clone Wars of this Universe
Disney Universe the Dark Timeline a more experimental Star Wars that can be enjoyed as a What If I see it as an expensive Infinities stories TCW and the rest of Filoni shows takes place in this Universe

 

i didn´t double post what are you talking about?its diferent comments unless you are saying that i cannot post another comment imediatelly after posting one comment and if that is the case yes i can since when people cannot post another comment imediatelly after posting one comment?you can´t time out people for that i allways double post in other forums and i never got a warning for that

 

As enjoyable Dark Empire was, it can’t be held in true Star Wars canon. Anakin as the Chosen One can’t be contradicted despite the fact the present heretics who own the IP do on a consistent basis.

 

Anakin being the Chosen One is the main thing that holds Dark Empire back. The notion of him defeating Palpatine, only for this Dark Lord to return...yeah...it's tough. Some have tried to rationalize the contradiction by saying that he put the Jedi and the Sith on equal playing field, but that only makes sense if you like how Krayt allied with Luke to battle Abeloth. Plus, I imagine some of you aren't fond of that story.

Nonetheless, I do accept both of those EU stories in spite of their wackiness. I net positive on them because they have enough that interests me about Luke, Leia, Ben Skywalker, and Jaina.



I'll always appreciate the EU for beautiful and moving scenes like this. While I do like the new canon's presentation of the Dark Times (between Episodes III and IV), I still consider that a separate universe than the EU.

 

In Dark Empire there was a prophecy about 2 Jedi brothers defeating the Emperor or a Sith i think it was a prophecy of Bodo Baas

 

The Dark Empire prophesy:

A brother and sister born to walk the sky,
But reckless brother falls-into dark side's eye!
Jedi sister carries hope for future in her womb.
Only she can save the Skywalkers from certain doom!
A Jedi-killer wants to tame her.
Now the Dark Side Lord comes to claim her.
She must battle join against this thief,
Or the dynasty of all the Jedi will come to grief!

 

There is a way in which Dark Empire can theoretically fit with the Chosen One Prophecy of the Prequels: you can make the story fit with the Prophecy if you say that the Emperor from the Dark Empire comics is not the real Emperor, but just a clone who is the result of the real Emperor's attempts at cloning himself to achieve immortality. Thus, the Emperor from the comics would be a clone who inherited Palpatine's memory and powers, and who is convinced to be the real Palpatine. This theory fits perfectly with Dark Empire I, even though it's a bit problematic when you take into account Dark Empire II and Empire's End. Though, in my opinion Dark Empire I can perfectly stand on its own and doesn't really need a sequel, so you could just take the first Dark Empire and that's it.

 

Dark Empire Palpatine was Darth Sidious himself he only changed his body using Transfer Essence to a Clone body Dark Empire 2 and 3 are Canon in the EU and occurred just as Rise of Skywalker occurred in the New Canon

 

My personal Canon has gone through some changes since the last time I talked about it. So, here's my updated list:

• Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
• Tales of the Jedi (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic I
• The Old Republic: Revan
• Knights of the Old Republic II
• The Old Republic: Deceived
• The Old Republic (comics)
• The Old Republic (original game)
• The Darth Bane Trilogy
• Darth Plagueis (novel)
• Jedi: The Dark Side
• Jedi Apprentice (series)
• The Aurorient Express
• Last Stand on Ord Mantell
• Jedi Council: Acts of War
• Republic comics (from Issue 1 to 6)
• Cloak of Deception
• Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
• Episode I: The Phantom Menace
• Bounty Hunter (video game)
• Jango Fett: Open Seasons
• Republic comics (from issue 7 to 49)
• Jedi Quest (series)
• Rogue Planet (novel)
• Outbound Flight
• The Approaching Storm
• Episode II: March of the Clones
• Republic Commando (video game)
• Republic Commando (novel series)
• The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
• Republic comics (from issue 50 to 83)
• The Cestus Deception
• Star Wars: Jedi (comic series)
• Star Wars: Shatterpoint
• The MedStar Duology
• Secrets of the Jedi
• General Grievous (comics)
• Obsession (comics)
• Star Wars: Jedi Trial
• Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
• Star Wars: Brothers in Arms
• Labyrinth of Evil
• Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
• Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
• Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
• Star Wars: Dark Times (series)
• Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
• The Coruscant Knights Trilogy
• The Last Jedi (novel)
• Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
• The Han Solo Trilogy
• Death Star (novel)
• The Force Unleashed (novelization)
• Star Wars: Extinction (comic series)
• Star Wars: Empire (comic series)
• Episode IV: A New Hope (despecialized)
• Star Wars: Dark Forces
• Star Wars: Rebellion (comic series)
• Star Wars: Scoundrells
• Star Wars: Allegiance
• Star Wars: Choices of One
• Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
• Shadows of the Empire (novelization)
• Mara Jade: By The Emperor’s Hand
• Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (despecialized)
• Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
• The Courtship of Princess Leia
• Tatooine Ghost
• The Thrawn Trilogy
• Dark Empire (first comic)
• The Jedi Academy Trilogy
• The Hand of Thrawn Duology
• Star Wars: Union (comics)
• Junior Jedi Knights (series)
• Young Jedi Knights (series)
• The New Jedi Order (series)

Some of you may have noticed that Episode II is not called "Attack of the Clones", but "March of the Clones". This is due to the fact that "March of the Clones" is my personal fan edit of "Attack of the Clones", which changes some minor aspects of the movie in order to make it more enjoyable. And since I enjoy my fan edit more than the original cut, I consider it more Canon than the original version of the movie.
Apart from what I have already listed above, my personal Canon also includes some encyclopedias, lore manuals and biographies. The ones I consider Canon are the following:

• The New Essential Chronology
• The Essential Guide to Alien Species
• The Old Republic Encyclopedia
• The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader
• The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi
• A New Hope: The Life of Luke Skywalker

Even though encyclopedias like "The Essential Guide to the Force" and "The Essential Guide to Warfare" are quite good, they contain references to the 2008 Clone Wars show and to the post-NJO novels, so I exclude them.

 

My personal Star Wars Canon has changed yet again. Lately, I have become much more critical of the lore that was introduced in the Prequel Trilogy, especially the lore that surrounds the Force and the Jedi. However, I still like the Prequels as movies, I’m still attached to the characters, and I really don’t have enough strength to leave the PT out of my personal Canon entirely. Therefore, I have decided to divide my personal Canon into two different timelines: the Pre-Prequel Timeline and the Post-Prequel Timeline.

The Post-Prequel Timeline:

• Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
• Tales of the Jedi (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic I
• The Old Republic: Revan
• Knights of the Old Republic II
• The Old Republic (original game)
• The Darth Bane Trilogy
• Darth Plagueis (novel)
• Episode I: The Phantom Menace
• Episode II: March of the Clones
• Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
• Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
• Episode IV: A New Hope
• Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
• Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
• The Thrawn Trilogy
• Dark Empire (the first comic)
• The Jedi Academy Trilogy
• The Hand of Thrawn Duology
• Star Wars: Union (comics)
• Junior Jedi Knights (series)
• Young Jedi Knights (series)
• The New Jedi Order (series)

The Pre-Prequel Timeline:

• Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
• Tales of the Jedi (comics)
• The Han Solo Trilogy
• Soldier for the Empire (novella)
• Star Wars (1977)
• The Empire Strikes Back
• Shadows of the Empire
• Mara Jade: By the Emperor’s Hand
• Return of the Jedi
• Rebel Agent (novella)
• Jedi Knight (novella)
• The Thrawn Trilogy
• The Dark Empire Trilogy
• The Crimson Empire Trilogy
• The Jedi Academy Trilogy
• The Hand of Thrawn Duology
• Star Wars: Union (comics)
• Junior Jedi Knights (series)
• Young Jedi Knights (series)
• The New Jedi Order (series)

The Post-Prequel Timeline contains the Prequel Trilogy films, Rogue One, the Original Trilogy films in their latest Special Edition version and a lot of old Expanded Universe material, except for everything that takes place between the films themselves. On the other hand, the Pre-Prequel Timeline contains the Original Trilogy films in their despecialized editions and a plethora of old Expanded Universe works that were created before the Prequels came out, with the exception of the Dawn of the Jedi comics and the New Jedi Order series, which were created concurrently and after the Prequels but are still able to fit with the pre-PT lore (also, I keep them in this timeline because I like the stories too much to leave them out). To be more specific, the original Star Wars film from 1977 and Return of the Jedi are the only two films that exist in their despecialized editions, as The Empire Strikes Back still exists in its latest Special Edition version, even in the Pre-Prequel Timeline (I keep TESB in its Special Edition version because it makes more sense, as Palpatine’s appearance is coherent throughout the films only if you take the Special Edition version).
The Post-Prequel Timeline tries to be as consistent as possible with the lore introduced by the Prequel Trilogy. In order for the timeline to be as consistent as possible with the lore introduced in the Prequels, it is necessary for the Chosen One prophecy to be true, and this means that Palpatine is not going to resurrect after he is killed by the Chosen One (Anakin), and no Sith is going to exist after Return of the Jedi. In order for Palpatine not to resurrect after Return of the Jedi, this timeline needs to explain Palpatine’s appearance in Dark Empire as the product of a rogue clone of Palpatine who is convinced to be the true Palpatine and inherited his memory, but is not really the same Palpatine who died on the Second Death Star. In order for this to happen, Dark Empire II an Empire’s End need to be excluded from the timeline (which is not really a problem, since the first Dark Empire comic is self-contained and doesn’t really need to have a sequel to work), as they make it pretty clear that Palpatine has really resurrected, and that the Palpatine we see in the comics is the same Palpatine who died in Return of the Jedi. Furthermore, the timeline also needs to exclude every Expanded Universe work that takes place after the New Jedi Order series, as the subsequent series (Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi) feature numerous Sith Lords existing after the Chosen One’s death, like Darth Caedus, the Lost Tribe of the Sith and Darth Krayt (to be honest, I exclude the post-NJO books also because I genuinely don’t like them). On the other hand, the Pre-Prequel Timeline does not need to be constrained by the lore introduced by the Prequel Trilogy, so it can perfectly contain the entire Dark Empire Trilogy and the Crimson Empire Trilogy, though it still doesn’t contain any work that takes place after the New Jedi Order series, because the subsequent series contain way too much Prequel references (Legacy of the Force is basically a retelling of the Prequels, and contains a lot of references to Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side as we know it from the Prequel Trilogy).
In the Post-Prequel Timeline, every Expanded Universe work that takes place between Lucas’ six classic films is eliminated, because my own interpretation of the films conflicts a bit with Lucas’ interpretation. And since a lot of EU works seem to imply that Lucas’ interpretation is the correct one, I decided to eliminate every external material that takes place between the films, in order for my interpretation to be consistent with everything else. For example, Lucas always advocated for the idea that the Jedi rules regarding romantic relationships are absolutely correct, and a lot of the books and comics that take place between the Prequels seem to prove him right, yet we still have the TOTJ Jedi Order and Luke’s Jedi Order being more open to romantic relationships, despite Lucas saying that the Jedi were absolutely correct about forbidding romantic love. So, either the Jedi of the Prequel era are wrong, and therefore we need to exclude every material that seems to prove them right, or the Jedi from Tales of the Jedi and Luke’s Jedi Order are the ones being wrong, and this is not an option for me. Furthermore, I want to have more liberties when it comes to imagining what happened between the films, especially during the Clone Wars and during the time period between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. And I can have this kind of liberty only if I totally exclude everything that takes place between the films, otherwise I would be constrained by what already happened in the EU works that are set during the Skywalker Saga. For example, I like to imagine that the Stormtroopers from the Original Trilogy are still Clones and are still created using Jango Fett’s DNA, but I can’t use this head-canon because a lot of EU works contradict this notion, which means that this head-canon can be coherent with everything else only if I totally remove the works that are set between the Prequels and the Originals, as well as between the Original Trilogy films themselves. On the other hand, the Pre-Prequel Timeline does not have all these limitations, because the Jedi are always depicted as competent, understanding, non-dogmatic and open to healthy romantic love throughout the entire timeline, so there is no reason to eliminate absolutely everything that takes place between the films. In fact, in this timeline there are some EU works set between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi that are taken into account.
Even though I created two separate timelines and I consider both to be equally Canon in different universes, right now my heart is a lot closer to the Pre-Prequel Timeline, because I genuinely prefer the Jedi Order to be competent and relatable, and ambiguous concepts like the balance of the Force and the Chosen One prophecy to be left out of the picture.

 

For me there are 3 Star Wars Timelines:

the Original Lucas movie Timeline with only TPM until ROTJ being Canon with not TV shows spin off movies or comics and novels Palpatine died in ROTJ there is peace forever and Star Wars is only 6 movies

the EU/Legends Timeline with Dawn of the Jedi until Legacy 2 being Canon TCW is not Canon in this Universe Ahsoka never existed Anakin Skywalker never had a Padawan ROTS novel and Clone Wars Multimedia Project replace TCW but the Mortis Gods existed Luke Skywalker restored the Jedi Order the Solo Twins and Mara Jade existed the Clones dont have chips Obi Wan and Darth Vader never fought until ANH

the New Canon/Modern Canon or Disney Canon TCW is Canon Darth Maul returned during the Clone Wars Anakin Skywalker had a Jedi Padawan Ventress is a Nightsister Sidious returned much later in the Timeline the Yuuzhan Vong dont existed or they never invaded the Galaxy during the New Republic era Thrawn fought against the Rebellion before ANH Luke Skywalker never married probably never had children Han and Leia only had one kid Luke Jedi Order was destroyed a descendant of Palpatine is important to the Post ROTJ era Rey now will have Luke Skywalker role a New Evil Empire is created there was a High Republic with the Jedi being more different and more similar to the Old Republic era but closer to the Prequels age

 

My personal Canon is One Canon! Every story ever published with the intent it would Canon. So April Fool’s stories, Infinities, Lego etc... don't count. But everything else does!

 

The EU and Lucas saga TPM until ROTJ the rest are Holoshows