TV Discussion The Future of Star Wars on TV

We are done with the Clone Wars now. I expect one final Clone story or a show with Ventress so Early Empire. I would actually love prequel to TFA thats few years back that deals with rise of the First Order.

 

If it was one or two of them maybe. Even a Tales of show, a new animated mainline series and a new season of visions. That I could believe. But multiple 3D animated series? Nah. They won’t be doing anymore animation then they already are.

 

Most of them are just short ones except a big animation show or adventures of young jedi

 

The problem with Luke's Academy is that it's doomed. That's why they didn't put Grogu in it and likely why they have stayed away from it thus far. Imagine if the ST started how everyone was hoping and waiting for, something that was pretty much expected: Jedi Master Luke Skywalker training the next generation of Jedi. Then, the years leading up to the ST could easily be filled with stories in that kinda fertile soil. Instead they ended it off-screen in another Jedi massacre and now they're left with a barren wasteland of a time frame where creatives don't want to put their characters because they're doomed. What creative wants to spend the time and effort developing a memorable Jedi character who is just gonna get killed by Kylo Ren anyway? At least that's why I think they haven't really done anything with Luke's Academy yet. It's more likely that the Rey film will release and we'll get other media (animated show, book, and/or comics) about the lead up to her Academy before we get stories from Luke's.

 

I know and it sucks, but I just want to see more of Luke Skywalker in his prime, his appearances in Mando S2 finale and TBoBF just teasing us that. I also think its important to see more of his relationship with young Ben.

Not only that, but really see him teaching the other students, going on missions across the galaxy and learns more of the jedi of old.

Start it with a 10 year old Ben in 15ABY just beginning his training with Luke, we see the two go on adventures together, bond growing, and how Luke found his other students. Academy is destroyed in 28ABY. Sadly giving us only 13 years of a brief Jedi resurgence. Still this is the only opportunity for the New Republic era to see Jedi do Jedi things, outside of Ahsoka an Co or Luke pre-Academy. This show can also give us more of a glimpse on the state of the galaxy during this time.

 

Same can be said of the old jedi order and why do movies and shows when we now its all doomed.

 

While I do want Luke's Academy content, the Old Jedi order even during the Clone Wars works far better even with the whole "they are all doomed" coming up.

The Clone Wars themselves are a more interesting era then New Republic era. The Jedi exist in thousands of numbers, so more story telling potential beyond just a small amount of students, even with Order 66 looming. The Jedi themselves have members like Obi-wan, Yoda, Anakin, etc......full of very popular characters.

Another factor is the disappointment of Luke's Jedi being wiped out.

The general audience has known the Jedi were wiped out since 1977. When TPM released in 1999 we already knew the generation of Jedi we were watching were doomed. Other then the foreknowledge of their destruction, the Old Jedi have the benefit of "for over a 1000 generations", giving us Old Republic (generations of Jedi never experiencing Order 66). For the old EU fans, we got to read about Luke create a successful Academy post RoTJ. When Disney bought Lucasfilm, many believed there was going to be some form of new Jedi Order for the Sequels. Instead we were treated to Luke's Legacy being wiped out.

 

IMO, nothing would be preferable to an animated post ROTJ series that leads to Luke's Jedi Academy and then its eventual fall.

That is the only story in the entire Star Wars saga worth telling, because, IMO, it's the only way to possibly fix the damage done. What they gave us for a ST doesn't work, it makes no sense. Maybe given a new context, with a lot of new backstory, and a new point of view, the events of the ST can be redefined to mean something entirely different. The biggest problem with Luke in TLJ is that he's not the Luke we last knew. If they give us how Luke went from ROTJ to TLJ, well then at least maybe the story can move forward with some sort of integrity.

 

Re bold: How do you get that from TCW? To my recolection the clones NEVER disagreed with the Jedi about going far enough, the only major disagreement the cloens had with any jedi was Pong Krell, and that was cause he was evil (not callous or just uncaring about the lives under his command but a full traitor, see that is simplistic story telling). Tarkin voices some stuff, but he is Tarkin, he is evil. TCW lacked a character like Alpha from the comics or Salvo from Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader, a clone who wants to be more burtal than the jedi.

As for the senate, I think it does a worse job than the comics, because Padme and co WIN votes. They win a couple times and Palpatine has to pull out all the stops to keep the senate in line. While in the comics it was very clear that the good senators had no hope and Palpatine had the senate fully under his thumb. To me the later makes sense to show that, no the senate can't/won't do anything, so other options need to be explored. Labyrinth of Evil shows Bail and Mon starting to build a resistance movement at the end of the war, after they have seen the changes Palpatine is making and that the senate won't stop him.

I am of the view that it was more than just the foundation, while it does only take one person to kill democracy others have to be willing to let it die, everyone in power either needs to be complaint or permissive.

 

Kathleen Kennedy to step down as Lucasfilm president.

https://puck.news/kathleen-kennedy-to-step-down-at-lucasfilm/

 

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There that covers 90% of those youtube channels.

It is interesting if she is leaving now, since I was under the impression she wanted to get one more movie out.

Still is the end of an era.

Time for a New (Jedi) Order at lucas film.

If true of course.

 

According to what I read, it seems she wanted to leave last year but hung around one more year, I'm not sure the reason why.

 

Interesting. Could be any number of reasons, maybe her replacement needed more time.

 

She is still a producer on The Mandalorian and Grogu so she did get one more movie done.

 

No matter who the new president is, I'm almost sure they won't care what my opinion is about the future of SW entertainment.

 

I think Kathleen Kennedy was good and I am glad she stayed as long as she did

 

I care.

 

I could definitely see a "Tales" series of episodes about Luke and Ben Solo. Other than that I doubt we'll get much.

I saw the PT in theaters in high school/college. I knew who was gonna (eventually) die, everyone did. The reason it worked is because it had a point. It had to show how the Republic fell and how Anakin Skywalker became one of the most icon villains in cinematic history; Darth Vader. Luke's academy was destroyed to put over the new characters; Kylo Ren and Rey. It didn't have to be that way. That's sloppy writing, propping up one set of characters at another's expense. And the biggest offense is that all of it happened off-screen. Showing it would have changed everything. Ben Solo getting seduced by the dark side and slaughtering all the new Jedi is ten-times more of an interesting story than what we got with the ST. Why didn't they show that? Wait, I think GL wrote something about Darth Talon seducing Ben to the dark side and all that in his ST story treatments. Too bad they didn't use them.

Contrary to what my post may have implied, I'm not against an animated show post RotJ focusing on Luke's Academy, I think it could be very interesting if some creative would commit to it, it just seems like they're staying away is all.

Here's a can of worms/hot take: have an animated show dedicated to Luke's Academy and throw Mara Jade in there. Maybe Luke didn't follow the old celibate monk rule and had a wife who helped him with his Academy. A wife who would be killed by Kylo Ben with all the others. It's not perfect and I just thought of it while typing but suddenly Luke's attempted murder of Ben in his sleep makes a little more sense. Luke being completely devastated and given up in the face of adversity has a little more depth and nuance. And the Mara Jade fans will get their Mara Jade fix. Not saying they should do that of course, I'm just saying that they could do something interesting in that time frame if they wanted to and put more thought into it than I just did.

 

I imagine if Andor S2 does really well with audience and critics, we could get more Gilroy-driven TV.

 

Id rather have a Gilroy movie

 

Just give me more like it

 

If S1 is anything to go by it will surely do well with critics. The audience will be the x-factor. Andor S1 didn't do so well with audiences in terms of numbers when compared to other SW shows but it did increase its viewership as the show progressed which is a good sign. The question is will the audience it picked up back in 2022 return and continue to grow? I hope so. I know the trailer for S2 dropped; I'm not watching it or viewing any of the related threads to S2 here on these forums as I wanna go into this as fresh and spoiler free as possible. But the fact that they started marketing it about 2 months before it releases suggests that they may push harder on the marketing for this then they did with say, "Skeleton Crew" which only had 1 months worth of marketing. We'll see what they do tho and what the results are soon enough. Can't wait.

As for more Gilroy driven TV, I'm definitely up for that but I think they're more likely to pivot him to a film after Andor, but who knows.

 

I think S2 will benefit significantly from the steady growth of viewership and the critical acclaim of S1. I'm sensing, if I may be so bold, an incoming...hit.

 

dp

 

How about Tony Gilroy tackle the rise of the sepratist movement, seems up his alley only with mostly aliens