Andor Andor Season 2 Discussion (Spoliers Allowed)

Cinta should have went down fighting. I will get over it, but that was a bit disappointing.

 

Yea but I can’t do that. You’re talking to the person who watched the entirety of breaking bad in the span of 5 days.

 

I have seen a lot of this viewpoint and I think that's how we are meant to feel. Not every death in war and revolution is heroic some is banal friendly fire. I think Vel will go out fighting on her behalf
I saw one LGBTQ you tube commentator complaining about how they loved the episode but hated that scene. They bemoaned that they killed of the gay woman of colour saying they had no interest in the character. I kinda don't get it as they just showed the first lesbian kiss in Star wars. Very progressive. I have actually been very happy to see how that's not been an issue online
Reminds me of the quote from one of the OT directors that a kiss in Star wars is like a sex scene and we had two glimpses of passion in that last episode.
I also like the fact the ghorman who accidentally caused the incident by stumbling on the operation was the one to carry cintas body... maybe this encourages him to join the rebellion

 

This show is, at least in part, about the forgotten rebels who died in the dark and won no glory, but whose efforts were critical to the Rebel Alliance surviving and growing and ultimately winning. It's fitting that not everyone is gonna go out in a blaze of heroic self-sacrifice.

It wasn't Cinta's death that mattered, it was her life.

 

But minutes watched isn't an entirely accurate measurement because it is greatly influenced by the runtime of the episode and also how many episodes were "dropped" at a time. For instance in that Luminate chart dated April 25th to May 1st, "Mobland" has 629 million minutes watched for a single 50-minute episode. "Andor" ranked just beneath "Mobland" has about 481 million minutes watched for three 54-minute long episodes. So the numbers are skewed. Amazon loves dropping RoP in three episode blocks for this reason; so they can fudge the viewing numbers and say things like "most watched show of such and such." Bottom line is that minutes watched doesn't translate into number of original viewers which is what counts more when it comes to subscriptions and ad revenue.

I wasn't disappointed at all. I was shocked and saddened. If the inexperienced rebel had followed the explicit orders not to carry a blaster the cause wouldn't have lost such a capable fighter. It was tragic. Nemik also was killed in an unceremonious way in S1. It makes the war Gilroy is depicting seem more real and believable since every semi-important character doesn't go out in a blaze of glory.

 

Like this take a lot

 

Pity we'll be missing out on the ISB and Imperial Intelligence's reaction to Gorst getting blapped in their backyard

Glad Bix got her revenge though

 

I wasn't shocked at all. They were foreshadowing, and you just knew something was going to go wrong. It was just simply disappointing it was Cinta.

 

Darthfettus2015 said "kinda don't get it as they just showed the first lesbian kiss in Star wars."

The first one I remember is in TROS at the end in Ajan Kloss with the two resistance ladies.

I really like Cinta and feel they were pressed for time with her. I think it's good to show a random accident happening but just wish it took out someone else. Then they just packed up and left? Wouldn't the Rebellion carry on and finish the plan? Why would one death stop everyone in their tracks? That didn't make sense to me and then the chastising of the young Ghorman Rebel was just a bit much. I get it, her girlfriend died because he didn't listen, but do we know that he wasn't told to bring a blaster by his superiors? Maybe by the leader or the blonde? Others could be at fault and he tried to prevent the situation. The goofy ass Ghorman man walking by himself down a dark alley way is really at fault here also, yet no one has mentioned this? He didnt turn away and then threatened the young man. No wonder why our country is falling flat. We promote the wrong things.
Where has B2EMO been?

 

They left him on the farm world.

I just don't get why they didn't set any blasters to stun. Then again they are a society stupid enough to build their economy around one thing and don't seem to have anything like farming.

Even Tatooine has farming. Maybe just maybe Ghorman should have taken a lesson from the shipping issues two years ago and started trying to make sure they are self-sufficient.

Sure, the empire would still be trying to get rid of them for their resources but the Ghorman don't seem to be the brightest bulbs.

 

you took the words right out of my mouth. it was a freak accident. those types of things happen in war.

 

I honestly have no idea why everyone’s all up in arms over Cinta Kaz when she was a pretty awful person. I know that’s not saying much in a show filled with awful people, but she was a cold blooded murderer who made her speciality the execution of unarmed combatants, including presumably a child in Season 1. She waited months on Ferrix waiting to execute Cassian for the crime of “being a loose end” after Cassian risked it all for her. She essentially got what she paid for. So yeah, not really crying so much when a stray bullet accidentally hits her.

 

I thought it was more people caring more about her sexuality and not the content of her character.

 

She did. I mean, she was directly fighting the Empire during that operation.

 

I get Cassian is guilty of many of the same things. But she also died in an operation where the whole point was to encourage the local populace to rebel for the express purpose of sacrificing them. Cassian was even smart enough to realize “hey, that’s kind of messed up.” I understand this is war and they’re fighting an evil regime but there’s no honor with her death even if she goes down fighting on Gorman.

 

Oh yeh I recall that now was quite chaste in comparison

 

They did not once imply she killed all the hostages, and I feel it would have been brought up by Mon or the ISB if the Rebels slaughtered civilians. There is very little to gain by killing all the hostages for seeing their faces in a world where Cassian can be hunted down while already being imprisoned under a fake name, especially if they intend on doing stuff like that again where Imps now have no incentive to stand down knowing they'll just kill the hostages anyways. It's the main reason why the Jedi doing fake surrenders in Clone Wars would be a problem if they ever want to actually surrender.

 

The blaster shot had alerted the authorities. They could already hear the sound of approaching sirens. They were out of time.

 

I think it's assumed she did kill them fascist family, why it's heavily insinuated that she killed Tay as his chauffeur..an angel of death.. especially after stabbing the imperial on ferrix

 

Luthen implied multiple times he wanted to kill Tay, and there's literally no other reason for CInta to be there other than kill Tay. That doesn't apply to the hostages in Season 1, where Vel implies the opposite, and there's no implication she's lying. Also why even wait until the team leaves before you kill them, she had a whole other job of monitoring the radio, makes no sense to do that while watching hostages you're about to kill anyways. Also the gap in time between the last time we see the hostages and Cinta walking isn't remotely reasonable even going with cinematic time, unless she already left.

I really find it hard to believe they just wouldn't bring up Rebels slaughtering an Imperial's wife and kid anywhere after this. The show mostly hides stuff that's supposed to vague to at least some of the characters, everyone would know what Cinta did, it doesn't seem consistent for the show to not make something so important more blatant, then just a shot of her walking on the temple path.

 

She was very emotional walking away ....maybe that was Just the eye

 

The plan was following a stopwatch, 6 minutes to grab whatever they could and then run with it, leaving behind whatever they hadn't grabbed already. They stuck to the plan.

 

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Lol.

 

They've damaged the brand over these years. You hate to see it. Andor is probably a once in a lifetime series for SW.