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Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by BigBoy29, Sep 8, 2009.

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  1. BigBoy29

    BigBoy29 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    During the storytelling session with the Ewoks, does 3PO mimic or did he record all the sound effects he uses to tell his story of our heroes.

    The Vader breathing, the engines of spacecraft, etc.

    So is it "mimiced" or does he keep recordings of every single thing he hears?

    Also, anyone remember the laundry list of effects he utilizes in the story?

     
  2. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hmm...


    TIEs, X-Wings, AT-ATs, the carbon-freezing chamber, Vader's breathing. I can't really think of any others.

    Although how 3PO knows what an AT-AT sounds like, IDK. :p
     
  3. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That sort of thing could be hardwired into his programming, or perhaps he was just mimicking it. I don't know if there's a definitive answer.
     
  4. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    Eh, to me the HOW isn't as important as the irony of Threepio saying he's no storyteller in ANH- then turning around and telling their story so well, he keeps an entire VILLAGE enthralled in ROTJ.

    The ONE time Threepio's MODEST- and he's so hilariously WRONG. [face_laugh]
     
  5. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Chosen One star 9

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    C-3PO seems to have gained the storytelling skill in the course of two movies. :p
     
  6. rsterling78

    rsterling78 Jedi Knight star 5

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    How the hell do you translate terms like "carbon freezing chamber" to the language of stone age teddy bears?
     
  7. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Simple. Ice box. [face_laugh]
     
  8. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    I think it translated as "Lando scrubbed Darth Vader's back in the hot tub".

    (Picture big hamster faces "Ooooooohhh, Aaaaaaahhh")

    C-3PO was one hell of a story teller.
     
  9. BigBoy29

    BigBoy29 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Look, maybe we will never get the Ewok translation - maybe 3PO embellished the story, dumbed it down, etc ...

    But the question remains unanswered - did he record every single freakin' thing he heard?

    Or did he mimic sound effects the best he could?

     
  10. MatthewZ

    MatthewZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That is one of the great and under recognized themes of the OT. All the characters from ANH become what they weren't by the time of RoTJ

    Threepio becomes a story teller
    Luke goes from farmboy to Jedi Knight
    Han goes from lone wolf smuggler to team player
    Leia goes from orphaned diplomat to love bird with a brother
    Darth Vader goes from villain to hero
    Old Ben goes from failure to redemption

     
  11. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think there's any distinction between the two - he's a giant computer and should be able to play back at any time what he has stored in memory.
     
  12. mikadojedi

    mikadojedi Jedi Master star 4

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    Wasn't R2 the Foley Artist for most of the sound effects? Other then Darth Vader and 3P0 saying 'toronto gosh!', for the AT-AT's, R2 did the sound for that story. Maybe I'm wrong. If thats the case, sorry.
     
  13. BigBoy29

    BigBoy29 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Actually there is a big distinction.

    C-3PO has either "DAT tape" capabilities that allows him to memorize and replay accurately everything he hears.
    or
    C-3PO is similar to a Human Beat Box (like the Fat Boys, Doug E. Fresh) that can emulate sounds.

     
  14. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    Of all the sounds C3PO produces during 'storytime', did he encounter their sources during
    his adventures? In other words, does he produce a sound for an object he never met or heard?
    If so, he'd been originally programmed to produce these effects; why.. who knows? Maybe he
    has a smokin' chess program tucked in there as well.

    C3PO: You betta chchchcheck yourself before ya wrrrreck yourself

    R2D2: Word
     
  15. BigBoy29

    BigBoy29 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    All the effects seem like they are recordings.

    But that does not rule out the possibility that 3PO is doing a Beat Box mimic.

    The AT-AT sound (that he never really heard) lends support that he in fact emulates sounds - and does a great job.

    I really am hoping some protocol droid experts can solve this question.
     
  16. Aggravated71

    Aggravated71 Jedi Youngling

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    Turn on your Tv's closed caption or the subtitles.They do a pretty good job of how he worded it,but sometimes the captions are incorrect and incomplete.
    But Its pretty cool to read what hes saying when he says it.
     
  17. dv909

    dv909 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    3PO mimes and tells the story.

    R2 provided the sound effects.
     
  18. Cloudreaper

    Cloudreaper Jedi Master star 2

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    Given that he's fluent in over six million forms of communication (forms, which implies everything from dog barks to Wookiee grunts to potential music/sound based ways of getting a point across) and most likely can actually speak in many of them, he's probably got some very complex sound creation hardware/software. So I suppose it wouldn't be far fetched that he could mimic just about any sound he can come up with. In theory, it would be a more efficient use of his system resources to emulate rather than keep a library of sounds.

    If they are recordings, then he's still fabricating some of them. As has been said, he didn't have an opportunity to hear an AT-AT up close (or without the walls of Echo Base to muffle them) and the only time he really had any opportunity to catch Vader's breathing was in the otherwise VERY noisy carbon freezing chamber, so both of those sounds, if recorded, had to come from other sources (which is very possible, even though they improbably wound up sounding dead on). One can argue that they sounded like played back recordings because that's what they are and it would've been more complex and time consuming to try to make emulated sounds for the movie.

    This is a case where we're probably analyzing something exponentially more than the makers intended. As a kid, I always thought they were simply records... and as a kid I always assumed it was Artoo providing the 'Foley Artist' (as someone said) work in support of Threepio's story.
     
  19. BigBoy29

    BigBoy29 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Thank you for that response - I can see that you thought about this issue and your post makes sense.

    In fact, your argument has been the most convincing either way -- it would certainly seem "cheaper" or more effiencient to have a protocol droid have a sound effect hardware instead of vast memory for recordings.

    Great answer!
     
  20. dv909

    dv909 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    During the scene R2 is in some kind of 'play' mode with his main light in a mellow blink. Being that he is equipped with the holographic projector and recorder, it is R2 making the 'real world' sounds to accompany 3PO's story.

    Since when did 3PO ever display the ability to make 'sound fx'? He speaks, he doesn't go 'vroom vroom!'

     
  21. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Odds are, IMO, that he has them stored somewhere. His fluency in six million forms of a communication is, after all, programmed into him. He doesn't hear a new language and just pick it up immediately.
     
  22. tonykart34

    tonykart34 Jedi Youngling

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    bac to the FUTURE
     
  23. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That was the name of my welcome thread when I became a mod. [face_laugh]
     
  24. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    I figured he just heard that stuff at some point, and "sampled" it. You know, like a synthesizer or something. Makes sense to me.

    True, we don't see him present for some of those sounds in the saga, but he may have heard them in between episodes or something. i.e. 3PO could've got the sounds for TIE fighters and AT-AT's from the Empire's invasion of their base on Yavin, shortly after ANH...
     
  25. BigBoy29

    BigBoy29 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Belo your post is not clear.

    Your term "sample" indicates that they are actually recordings.

    And your "synthesizer" analogy actually seems like you think 3PO is making the sounds - not recordings.

    More like an "interpolation" of the sounds - using prior knowledge, yet actually making his own version of the sounds - utilizing his own audio technology.

    So, no recorded sound? Is that right Belo?
     
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