A Big Continuity Fix...The Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire

In my opinion, "Dark Empire, Dark Empire II and Empire's End" should switch places with "Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command" in the timeline. Why do I make such a demand? I'll give you my reasons, on a point by point basis.

1) "The Last Command." Mara's final instructions from the Emperor was to kill Luke Skywalker. However, how could this be his "Last" command if he's stitting quietly on Byss, gathering power, as he always does.

2) "The Last Grand Admiral" All twelve known Grand Admirals were accounted for by the time Thrawn started his systamatic sweep across the New Republic. Why would the Emperor not call to enlist his trusted stratigist? Why would he not allow Thrawn to employ the awsome power of the World Devistators and awsome fleets of Star Destroyers. Thrawn did most of his damage to the Republice with 8 Star Destroyers and captured Dreadnaughts. Which brings me to my next point...

3) "Power and Politics of the New Republic." The Republic portrayed in "Dark Empire" has alot more in common with the first few struggling years, such as those in the X-Wing series, rather than those during the Time of Thrawn's campaign. The leadership is more akin to the Rebellion, and the aspect of a "hidden base" is a bit strange for an established government.

Also, Thrawn's invasion throughout the Republic would be more consistant if the Republic's forces were down to a minimum, such as they would be after a war with Reborn Palpatine's Forces.

4. "The Emperor's Storehouse." While the Reborn Emperor had no problem with manpower, resorces, and ships, this was a constant battle for Thrawn. However, he was able to not only use remarkable tatics to steal Republic and abandoned starships, but he also "grew" his own men.

The need for Clones would be better suited if there was a signigant drop in the Imperial Population, such as one would be after Palpy #2.

So there you have it. My home-grown fix for certian inconsistancies. I wanted to see what everyone thinks of how I like to view the EU. I'm sure this brings up more problems than it solves, but let's try anyway!

 

Well, to answer one of them, Palpy probably sat and observed Thrawn from afar, i.e. Byss, but he didn't expect the Chiss to have been killed. There you have it. Another blunder for the Impies.

 

According to the Dark Empire Sourcebook,it was all basically a big test for his subjects..........root out the incompetants.That's what he used the six years for,and the Imperial civil war afterward.

The Emperor was quite disappointed that his servant Thrawn,thought he could replace him as Emperor.He thought Thrawn should've known better........

And Thrawn had trouble finding ships because the Emperor secretly gathered many toi Byss in the core.

 

"The Emperor was quite disappointed that his servant Thrawn,thought he could replace him as Emperor. He though Thrawn should've known better."

I was under the impression that Thrawn did not desire to be the next Emperor, but was just "cleaning up" the Empire so that another one could come along.

 

Palpatine (II) was definitely insane then, and unworthy of ruling a galaxy .

Of course i think all copies of DE and it's sequels should be burned and the entire thing quietly erased from the official chronology .Yours

 

Who else was going to come along?Have you read Vision ofthe Future and Spectre of the Past yet?

 

I have read them, yes.

 

The Emperor probably expected a nother 10 or so years to be needed to make his move.

Thrawn accelerated the decay of the Empire (by giving them much more to fight over) and the destruction of the Republic by weaking them...

Thus allowing him to accelerate his attack plan time schedule.

Thrawn was also too popular and competant for the Emperor to deal with.

It's implied in the back that the reason Thrawn died when he did was because the Emperor willed it

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In response to RNolan:

Are you kidding??!!Palps was just doing what he'd been doing for 25 years before.In fact I'll prove it.

*looks for Imperial sourcebook*

He didn't become insane untill Empire's End,when his fear of perishing in the Dark Side drove him over the edge.

 

He was insane .

Nonsense does cease to be nonsense because it is well planned and brilliant nonsense .

It would probably have worked 8 times out of 10 but it was still mad .Yours

 

A little parallel, "The Joker," Batman's arch-nemisis, is a genius, but also a lunitic, unfit to rule.

 

Well that either makes DE poorly rationalised or the Imperial Sourcebook wrong .Choose .Yours

 

In the Shadows of the Empire source book,it says the Emperor would often give his subordinates conflicting information,just to test their competance and loyalty.

To me that says the Emperor is not beyond testing his servants the way he did(and it's not just what it said in the SotE source book thst gives mee that opinion,but things in the Imperial SB also,to numerous to list)

And in fact it did work.By the latter half of DE I the Emperor has regained control of his Empire again,and is crushing the Rebellion left to right.

It wasn't untill Empire's End that he lost it all.He was dying.He would soon pass into the madness of the Dark Side.He made rash decisions.Soon the entire Empire was hurt,when Byss was blown up.But he was winning.

Everything had proceeded exactly as he foresaw.Until he Empire's End when he went mad because of his fear of dying in the Dark Side.The madness beyond death.

 

None of that makes it sane .Yours

 

No.Probaly not.But that's the way he ran things.

 

Many things he did were done out of paranoia.

 

Yes therefore he was insane, ergo unfit to rule .

His aides had a moral (and possibly legal) duty to (try to) depose - or install a Regency - him when he cracked .Yours

 

Palps was cracking in the Return of the Jedi novel.I believe he was starting to get delusions of believing he was a god,according to the thoughts of his you
read in there.

 

DE should be wiped out from the timeline completely. This whole Clone Emperor thing makes Anakin´s Death ridicolous, because by killing Palpy at he DS2 he brought balance back to the force.


Tom Veitch wasnt a good choice for SW.

He even wanted to bring a guy wearing Vader´s suit into all this, but LFL didnt let him for god´s sake.

 

Then the Entire EU should be wiped out

Otherwise Jorus C'Boath and the other Dark Jedi make Anakin's sacrafice look stupid

because they disrupt the force just as bad as palpy

Anakin by his deed brought balance for a time...

but it's a never ending struggle

 

But they DID let him clone the Emperor... Hmm.

My thinking is, Anakin's sacrifice had lost some impact when Palp returned, it was as though Anakin had died for nothing. Then after TPM, it just made the Clone Emperor even worse. Does anyone still buy into the theory that maybe the Clones were lying and did not actually contain Palpatine's essence?

BTW, rumours are that Anakin will return in some form or another in the NJO. (Some speculate that the voice the Solo kid hears is Vader.)

So if it IS actually Palpatine in DE then it negates Ani's sacrife no matter how you see it. Unless of course Ani DOES come back in some way. God, what a mess. How bout just giving us a mini-series where the Republic takes back Coruscant, (set before Jedi Search) and in that story it is discovered that it wasn't really Palpy, but some Imperial Sceme, (like the fake Thrawn).
Of course for continuity reasons, Luke et al cannot learn of this. Thus, Anakin's fate in ROTJ is not tarnished, and neither is DE.

Just my $0.03.

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Can't we just wipe out ROTJ instead ?That would cause fewer headaches...

(That was a joke btw) .Yours

 

If Anakin had not killed the Emperor,Balance would never had been restored.He and Palpatine would escape the Death Star II,wiped out the rebellion,and plunge the Galaxy into darkness,possibly forever.

Luke would be dead.Leia would be dead.Or turned over to the Dark Side herself.

So IMO,Annie,did bring balance to the Force and ensure there will always be someone to keep that balance.

So Annie's actions on the DS did indeed have an impact on SW history forever.His death was not for nothing.

 

I dont think C´Baoth and the other Dark Jedi are that important to the whole force balance issue, but by bringing Palpy back they are destroying everything the movies stand for.

According to Kathy Tyers herself, it´s not decided yet, who speaks to Jacen in his vision exactly.

It wouldnt matter to me, if its indeed Anakin Skywalker. OB1 did the same with Luke.




BTW does anybody else hate the way Obi-Wan is written away in HtoE? I mean the only reason to cancel any further appearances of him was because of the PT.

 

Actually ihey didn't even know back then if there would be a PT.

I just think they didn't want OW to show up anytime helping out.