A Dune / Star Wars crossover : Call for writers

Dune is an epic saga I enjoyed most reading, I like it as much as I do the Lord of the Rings. Well there's a Star Wars / Lord of the Rings crossover being written now on this forum (all my congrats to Mr P and JediGaladriel for their awesome work.

I've enjoyed reading it and asked myself the following question shortly after : why not write a Dune / Star Wars crossover ?

The current questions I need an answer to are the following :

- Who would be interested in writing this ?
- When would it be set in the SW story arc ?
- When would it be set in the Dune story arc ?
- What is the universe in which it is set (Dune, Star Wars or both - admitting one side has been able to cross enough space to find the other) ?


Please respond !

 

I've always had this nagging plot bunny of an AU Luke getting transported to Seitch Tabr during one of Paul's speeches and they work together to overthrow the Emperor. You can have the plot bunny if you want. Just tell me.

Good Luck! Can't wait to read what you come up with.

 

My interest is piqued-- Dune and SW have plenty of parallels that have some definite potential in a crossover fic... Both classics of science fiction/fantasy, both with desert planets, boys with interesting powers, ancient prophecies, groups with mystical mental powers...

Depending on what point in the Dune timeline it's set, I'd be interested in helping out... even though getting involved in a new fanfic project is probably the *last* thing I should be doing.

-When in the Dune timeline?: Maybe around the time of the first novel or Dune Messiah. Otherwise, if you did it later in the series for example-- most of the most interesting elements are gone, like Muad'dib, the Fremen, the spice, the sandworms... (That, and as of this point, I've not read anything past God Emperor of Dune, book #4-- and as of that book, while I still enjoy the series, most of what hooked me on the series is gone. )

-When in SW?: Somehow, a point in time in which we can incorporate Luke or Anakin-- or even both, who knows.

-Probably in the Dune universe. But that's just a personal preference, as in terms of culture/etc., I think Arrakis is somewhat more interesting than Tatooine. (And, no, I'm not blaspheming! I love both planets, of course. )

Anyone else have other ideas? The AU Luke idea's an interesting one...

 

yeah...I love Dune too...it'd be sorta cool if the Sardaukar were suddenly fighting against guys with lightsabers... Wonder which side Luke would choose to be on if it came to a feud between House Atreides and Harkonnen???
PS Of all the Dune bks, I still haven't gotten to read Dune Messiah...someone pls fill me in... ^_^

 

Dune Messiah: Paul is Emperor, Irulan is poisioning Chani so she won't give birth again, the Tleliax [someone correct my spelling] have given Paul a ghola (clone) of Duncan called Hayt (I think), but he doesn't have any memories of Duncan. Alia is in power and Stilgar is the same as ever. Chani becomes pregnant, she knows it's twins, but Paul doesn't. Paul gets his eyes blown off, but can still see. Chani gives birth to Liet and Ghanima and dies. Paul goes into the desert as a blind man and leaves his twins under the care of Alia and Harah.

That's as short as I can make it.

 

Minor correction: it's Leto II (not Liet) and Ghanima. But yeah, that's pretty much the plotline-- still wouldn't hurt to read Dune Messiah though, Salome; it's only a couple of hundred pages, though it is a little gloomy.

 

oops, meant to write Leto. See what slips out. One of my favorite Dune lines is from there. 'Mentant, solve thyself.' which I coulda sworn was in Dune, but is in Dune: Messiah.

 

Liz, I'm most interested, if you could send it to me it'd be a pleasure to read this.

A little addition on Dune Messiah : in the end Hayt recovers the memories of Idaho, it's quite important to my eyes in regard to that Idaho is the only character found in all of the novels.

Yep the most interesting setting in the Dune timeline would be that of the first two novels (especially the original Dune I think), later there's not that much interest.

A point in the SW timeline when we could include both Luke and Anakin ? Well I wondered what would Vader's reaction be to such a different universe from his, so why not shortly after the Battle of Yavin, with the DS blowing up triggering a rip in the fabric of space, then all who leave the system find themselves arriving above some planet in the Imperium (most likely Dune, but others could prove interesting).
This implies Vader arrives shortly before, so we could have him boarded by the Harkonnen whereas the rebels find themselves stuck on a land where war is raging (and the Sardaukar taking a lot more punishment than they had expected).
Or we have them arrive later or sooner, perhaps on Caladan's orbit before the Atreides' departure, or sometime else I don't figure out now.

So what do we do ?

 

Yeah, I enjoy the books after those two-- but the 3500 year jump between Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune very nearly lost me... the books are still good, but that's only if you're interested somehow in deep philosophy... the first book's the best place, I agree.

Luke and Vader? That would be interesting... I'd think especially Force-sensitives might have interest in the melange... (just imagine if someone like Palps got his hands on that...)

My first instinct was to have them arrive on Arrakis somehow... sometime after Paul had already been adopted by the Fremen at Sietch Tabr, so that he's already begun to undergo his transformation and has earned respect from the tribe... so he and Luke are both at pivitol points in their lives; it might be interesting to see the Fremen/Muad'dib in something of a mentor-type role for Luke (who's only recently himself coming into the awareness that he possesses something greater than he), instead of Obi and Yoda. Though depending on who all comes with Luke, say Han and Chewie, it might be better to have them ally with the Atreides earlier on, before the Harkonnens begin their whammying... then join the Fremen later. Really, I'm just brainstorming here. I'm completely open to input... just so long as there's the Fremen and cameo appearances by the sandworms at some point.

But what would the central conflict be? Same as the book? Would the Harkonnens or Shaddam shift their focus to one of these Force-sensitives, to sway one to their side to have an edge against the rise/power of Muad'dib? If Luke and Vader would be on different sides (as they probably would-- would Vader's suit last in the heat of Arrakis? I'm not sure; in some ways it does resemble a stillsuit), what would Vader's purpose be siding with the "bad guys?" Can't imagine he'd think too highly of the Harkonnens or the Padishah Emperor. He'd be using them for his own means, whatever those turn out to be. And I've no real idea what, if anything, to do with the Bene Gesserit.

I'm going to have to reread the book before I get in too deep-- I know the story and quite a few basics, but Herbert's universe does have a lot of important details which I'd like to avoid stepping on if possible. There's also an old thread on the JC("Anakin, Luke, and the Kwisatz Haderach"-- http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=417670 ) that had a pretty good detailing of some of the parallels that might want to be taken advantage of...

 

How about: Luke is in an accident on Tat, or something like that, and gets transported to Calidan. He meets up with Paul somehow and they become friends. Luke joins up with the Atreides, maybe as an aide to Paul? playmate? It does say that Paul had no companions, but he did have wonderful companion teachers (some Irulan quote at the beginning). So Luke comes to Arrakis with the Atreides. He realizes with his Force sense about the Harkonnen bomb...

and the plot line in my head ends there.

 

These are all wonderful ideas! I love Dune. I love Star Wars! I couldn't find a better thread! Um, as far as timeline and stuff I have no idea. I think the best place would be set in Dune, on Arrakis.

I have this sort of idea that has been twilering in my head for a while. What if somehow, the two strongest women roles in both met. Like Amidala or leia, and the Lady Jessica. I am sorry, but I just think Jessica is awsome, and Amidala is such a strong character it would be interesting if they got together, maybe change the fate of both of their worlds.

I just thought I would throw that our there. Do what you will with it, anyone, or leave it. Just a thought. But some of these other ones sound really interesting. I look forward to seeing what you guys come up with.

 

It's all very interesting ideas there !
Well I won't be there until Thursday 10:00 am board time or so (that's the problem when you've got a job miles away from an Internet access).
I'll try to figure out some plot bunny to propose until then (if I have time) and it'll be great pleasure to see what you all are proposing !

See you folks !
Ban

 

Oh, super cool. I can't believe i missed this thread!

I like Liz's plotbunny. What would Arrakis' spice have an effect on a force-sensitive? Make them even more force sensitive?

Perhaps it would allow Vader to heal himself... hmm? A healed Vader fighting Luke and Paul?

ahh... cool. I would very much like to join in on this. Count me in!

--Mr. P

 

>A healed Vader fighting Luke and Paul?

woah, heavy! That idea is great!

 

Wow, so many great ideas here... so little time. *sigh*

Anyone else interested in beig a contributor? A crossover of this magnitude is pretty heavy for two people, though not impossible... and it's always great to have an odd number, so when deciding on plot details there's no chance of a deadlock.

 

I'd love to help but just for a small bit of it. I'm busier than I look.

 

Same for me-- part of why I'm asking for more co-authors. ;-) But when a plot bunny bites me, even if it's someone else's, sometimes I can't help but be infected by it. ;-) Especially as alluring a bunny as this one is...

 

Up! Let's not lose this, people!

--Mr. P

 

Yes, indeed-- thanks for upping this, P!

So that's Lordban, myself, Mr.P and Liz for a little bit...

 

Very interesting...

 

A healed Vader fighting Luke and Paul. Now that's some great idea !

Up !

 

I hope you guys get this story together...

 

The first thing I think we aught to solve is this question: how do they get there?

I mean, they've got to get there in the first place... and then, we use that to set up the rest of the story. And what do we want to do with it when all's said and done? In other words, what exactly do we want to do with it, in terms of plot, except just the "Who-are-you" stuff.

--Mr. P

 

How about a problem in foldspace? Even more interesting if we can have D'murr (from the prequels) as the driver.

 

Who is D'murr? And what exactly is "foldspace"? is it like the thing in A Wrinkle in Time, perhaps? I don't know about that. I've only read the first Dune book.

--Mr. P