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A theory about Aurra Sing, and why she's so powerful (One Tempest Spoiler)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sinrebirth , Dec 31, 2006.

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  1. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It occured to me, indirectly, that perhaps Aurra Sing was Plagueis' first attempt at creating a midichlorian entity, and one he discarded as the Jedi grabbed it quickly, and its strength and perhaps balance was questionable.

    Well?
     
  2. Rohniss

    Rohniss Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ... And me here thinking she was half-Nikto..

    pretty good Sinre.
     
  3. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Is she so powerful really? She is a very good fighter, but seems to be weak when it comes to Force...:confused: Perhaps her apparent weakness is just the result of lack or training - or her hatred of Jedi has made her to avoid using it much.[face_thinking]

    Of course, Darth Plagueis could have been making who knows how many failed experiments before the possible creation of Anakin and then his suicidal move of going and telling it to Palpatine, so everything is possible, but... Extremely, very unlikely is my humble opinion.[face_plain]

    I see the quote as just a way of explaining why she is still in such a good condition at the age of 93, nothing else. And it is a way of giving another emotional scar to her and so partly explain her behaviour.[face_plain]
     
  4. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    My personal view on why she's so powerful is because she's a byproduct of the pathological need to cram as many PT references into LOTF as possible, and that's the only way they could come close to justify having a 93-year-old woman have any use.
     
  5. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    ...that's the only way they could come close to justify having a 93-year-old woman have any use.

    Unlike 97-year old man in the form of Gilad Pellaeon?:cool:
     
  6. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    And notice how he's not running around as a bounty hunter fighting Jedi and whatever?
     
  7. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Pelly's in a chair (or a bacta tank) commanding fleets, not engaging in lightsaber fights. She's from a long lived species, however, which explains the age problem: she's not old. Anyway, she was about as tough a fighter in the prequel era comics, too. The reason they picked her, I'd imagine, is given the current state of the order, it would have seemed implausible for there to be another dark Jedi Bounty Hunter about, but they needed one, so they reached back to get Aurra Sing.
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  8. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Sing's a Jedi Hunter, who's fought some of the Old Order's best Jedi and has lived to fight another day. Hopefully Jacen will put her to good use as one of his pawns. Maybe Hett, or one of his descendents will leave Tatooine and finally take her down.
     
  9. SephyCloneNo15

    SephyCloneNo15 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Perhaps 97 is just the new 40?

    :D :p
     
  10. Coonsan

    Coonsan Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I was under the impression that it had already been established she was long lived/from a different species father?
     
  11. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Far as I know it's new to Tempest. Until Tempest, she was known as "humanoid" or "near-human." Now she's a human/near-human hybrid.

    Anyway, if she was a working bounty hunter, I'd like some explanation as to why Vader didn't snuff her.
     
  12. SephyCloneNo15

    SephyCloneNo15 Jedi Knight star 5

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    This is Aurra Frelling Sing. That's why. She would pwn Vader 3 ways to next Tuesday. That's why. Pfft. Chosen One. Prophecies ain't got nothin' on Aurra Frelling Sing. If Vader wanted Sing outta the way his only choice woulda been to get down on his knees and beg Kyle to off her.
     
  13. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Nice theory but...


    Aunanna (Sing's mom) speaks about her husband in Emissaries to Malastare as if he's been dead for a while. She even gives an old swoop bike he used to drive to the lower levels of Nar Shaddaa to Mace. So unless Plagueis spent a summer holiday with Aunanna slumming it down in the city dumps... well...
     
  14. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Yeah...based on that quote, I was much more under the impression that Aunanna was sort of promiscuous, if not actively a prostitute.
     
  15. DarthRotten

    DarthRotten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    HA! Glad to know I'm not the only one that thought THAT!
     
  16. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Yeah, fought them and LOST, and then spent the next 45 years (according to Tempest) sitting in jail. Still doesn't explain why it makes sense. And her having a "long-lived" father screams deus ex machina.
     
  17. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    As much as this will probably pain him, I generally agree with everything IGTL has said in this thread. :)
     
  18. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Well, apparently she was feared, so she must have won sometimes. When was she arrested, btw, and what for? Whatever it was, it was after Jabba's vehicular combat tournament...

    And yeah, I totally agree with you that it's a deus ex machina, I'm just saying they didn't really have another option. They needed this sort of character for plot reasons, and they might as well have brought up a character that fans liked and had no defined ending, rather than risk making an un-believable new one. Kind of like why they brought in Lumiya. They've also created a trifecta of popular female villains and potential Sith, three Angels to Jacen's Charlie.
     
  19. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    According to the Jedi: Aayla comic and the NEC, Aurra was arrested during the Clone Wars and incarcerated on Oovo IV but released a few months later in exchange for information on Crimson Nova. Whereas according to Tempest, Aurra was left forgotten on Oovo IV until the Vong sprang her.

    This ignoring of continuity errors by either author or editor angers me probably as much as her actual appearance.
     
  20. Havac

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    She seems to have kept a low profile. Also, the Empire has demonstrated that it has no problem with darksiders running about so long as they kill the lightsiders and aren't too much trouble to handle. Sing's no powerhouse and no real threat to Vader or Palpatine, but loves killing Jedi. They didn't have much of a reason to off her.
     
  21. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I'd disagree with that. We know that Palpatine sent Maul to kill that Dark Jedi in the Tales comic, and Grievous to hunt down the Dark Jedi twins from the Manga. Vader killed the Dark Jedi girl in the original Betrayal, and in Galaxies the Imperial officer pays you to kill Nightsisters.
     
  22. Zekks_Darkness

    Zekks_Darkness Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Uh, didn't Aurra Sing(full name typed just for Excellence) drink blood at one point in Tempest? In the bar scene or something. I thought that made her daddy some kind of vampiric near-human. I'm sure the GFFA has some kind of vampires floating about.

    As for powerful, wasn't Darth Jacen Solo holding back because of Allana... Ka-Solo? And didn't Aurra Sing get taken out by said Allana Ka-Solo, a five-ish year old girl? Didn't Aurra Sing also fail in her mission to assassinate the Queen Mother Tenel Ka? I fail to see anything powerful about her.
     
  23. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The TPM Visual Dictionary that says that she has "Long fingers to draw blood."
     
  24. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Yeah. Considering the amount of species here that drink blood, I'd imagine it's not terribly rare.
    No. The only point at which he was holding back was when she came out of the refrigerator or whatever so he didn't shoot lightning. Before that, he didn't care, because she couldn't see.
    Taken by surprise.
    Good point.
     
  25. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The first two, as far as I know, are not canon. The third was killed because she was overambitious and sparked emotions in Vader that he did not care for; he was originally sent to kill her because she was posing as a Jedi. The case of the Nightsisters is unique because they represent not a handful of bounty hunters or Inquisitors but an organization of darksiders, a rival dark side tradition that could pose an effective threat. A couple hundred darksiders running around outside Imperial control are different from a lone Jedi-killing bounty hunter presumably willing to work with the Empire and controllable.
     
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