A thought: Why did Vader freeze Han?

Why did Vader specifically choose to have Han frozen? Why not Leia? She'd been a nemesis of his for awhile. Could it be he sensed a connection there, or that she "reminded" him of someone? And do we really believe that it's because he actually gave a crap about Boba Fett being able to take Han to Jabba? It's just a thought. Discuss.

 

The reason Han was frozen was because Jabba wanted Han. Jabba sent bounty hunters around the galaxy to find Han. Vader knowing this used it to his advantage. He used the bounty hunters, who were looking for Han, help him find him, so that he could lay his trap for Luke.

 

Boba Fett was the best bounty hunter in the galaxy. It was hinted in the movie that Vader had used him for jobs before. If Vader did not keep his end of the bargain by delivering Han, he would risk not being able to use Boba's services in the future.

 

Vader wanted some revenge on Han after what he did to him at the Battle of Yavin. Torturing and freezing him was just his way of getting back at Han.

 

It had nothing to do with Han. Vader wanted Luke frozen for his journey to the Emperor. A human was never frozen with that process before. Vader "didn't want the Emperor's prized damaged." So it was tested on Han. If Han didn't survive the freezing process then the Empire wouldn't have tried to freeze Luke.

 

Vader tortured and froze Han Solo for a couple of reasons.

1. To test the carbon chamber to see if he would survive it.

2. To lure Luke to coming to try to recue his friends. Vader knew it would be a weakness for Luke since he as Anakin knew that all too well. Remember Anakin knew his mother was in pain and knew that Luke's emotional attachment was great enough that he would know his friends were in pain.

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Vader wanted to test the freezing chamber on Han, so he could make sure it wouldn't injure Luke.

 

I think the reason it happens to Han is because he meant nothing to Vader. Losing Han didn't concern Vader if the carbon freeze didn't work. Anyway Leia was a Senator and to Vader she may seem to have been a more important prisoner than some smuggler.

 

Ditto!

 

Everybody else has already said why listen to them you must.

 

Storywise it was because he wanted Luke to come to Bespin and to test if the freezing process would be safe to hold his only child (beside he had already tortured Leia in Episode IV - How broing it must be to torture the same people over and over!!!!).

But in reality it was because Harrison Ford wasn't sure he would agree to playing Han a third time.

 

i understand why Vader froze Han.. i just dont understand why he wanted to freeze Luke.. what would this accomplish???? ?

 

Look when he tries to freeze Luke. During their battle. He knew Luke wouldn't jsut go with him to see Palps so he was going to freeze him and take him there.

 

haha thats pretty funny that Vader cant trap Luke in a carbon freezing chamber, but the Ewoks can accidentily catch him in one of their food traps

 

Why not on Chewbacca? Why not on Lando!!!

Han was worth a bounty, alive. Boba Fett : He's not good to me dead.

But then so was Chewbacca.


I say test it on Lando!!!!!

 

Vader may have figured Leia would have had useful information or would have been more valuable to him alive. Han, on the other hand, gave Vader no leverage whatsoever except for control over Luke, so Vader was finished with Han as soon as he knew Luke was on his way to Cloud City.

i just dont understand why he wanted to freeze Luke.. what would this accomplish????

That's a very good question. My guess would be Vader didn't really want to freeze Luke at all and was just putting on a show for Luke's benefit. If Vader just froze Luke and then brought him to Palpy, Palpy would win him to the dark side and then off Vader. All of Vader's ambitions and future hopes depended on his being able to win Luke over to his side first.

From that point of view, events went almost perfectly for Vader in ESB, right down to Luke's escape on the Falcon. Vader had already told Luke about their connection and why Luke should choose his side, then let Luke escape to mull things over for another six months to a year before bringing him to face the Emperor. I think Vader knew that the longer Luke lived with the knowledge that Vader was his father, the more likely he was to accept it and go along with Vader.

 

I think Vader wanted to freeze Han was to mess with Lukes head test his breaking points wich could be something to how Vader comes about in Eppisode 3. Why did he want to freeze Luke to bring him to the Emporor? Simple the Empror could have told him the Darkside saved you and your friends let you astray making Lukes decent to the Darkside very easy for Palpitine cause Luke would look to them being the only one who cares. Like I said before it may be the same way Anakin gives in to the Darkside but I guess we will all know in a little over 2 years from now.

 

Possibly because freezing Han would be painful for both Leia and Chewie...while freezing Leia would have a similar effect on Han, it would be completely different from Chewie's reaction.
Vader might've also figured that keeping Han on Cloud City would be more difficult than keeping Leia. Han was a smuggler before he joined the Rebellion, while Leia was a high-profile diplomat.
Hmm...a random idea just occured to me. Perhaps Vader decided to take Leia with him because she broadcast her pain with the Force when she watched Han being frozen in carbonite?

 

Han was chosen for freezing simply because they needed someone to test it.

Chewbacca wasn't human so there was no point in testing it on him. Lando was the one who could tell Vader whether it worked or not seeing as though he was the "Administrator of this facitity" and Leia was a high ranking Rebel officer and more important to Vader.

 

I always thought Vader froze Han because Vader went through all that trouble of setting up a buffet for them, and what does Han do? He shoots him, thats what!

The ingratitude! He had to hire Bespin's best catering service to set up that spread!

 

Plus Chewie'd never let it happen. He'd rather go down fighting, like a warrior. And take a good number of them with him

 

It's also possible Vader was just mad a sleazebag like that was dating his daughter.



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I think Leia had too much importance being a rebel leader and former senator, therefore she was considered valuable. Han was expendable considering his former occupation and his importance in the rebel Alliance. If for some reason, han didn't survive the freezing process, the Empire was going to compensate.

 

I think some people have to go back and watch the scene over again, and listen to what is said...

"I do not want the emperor's prize damaged, we will test it, on captain solo"

This means exactly what it says, he knew that luke would put up a fight and not go quietly, and being the only one who could possibly equal Vader in a fight, decided that the best way to get him there was to freeze him, then thaw him out once they got him to the emperor.

"Why not Chewy? Why not Leia? Why not Lando?".....

Ok, first of all, like we know in a logical science experiment if we want ot perform a test before conducting an actual experiment we want how differences between the test and the actual? As little as possible, so that's why we won't use Chewy or leia, chewy's about twice the size and strentgh of luke, he has a better chance of surviving a carbon freeze than luke. Leia, is smaller than luke, and also weaker, she has less of a chance of surviving than he does. Lando is more a use to vader alive, seeing as he is the one in charge of bespin, it's easier to control the enemy troops by using the enemy commander than it is to control without him. Han, is a male, built about the same as luke, and compared to the rest of the choices the most like luke. Vader chose Han because he was the most like luke and would provide the most accurate results. Vader didn't care about Han being wanted by jaba the hut, he simply wanted an acurate test subject. That's really all there is to say.

 

Vader did not know about Leia until Jedi and it is alot easer to pack Han into Slave I when in a Carbonihte.