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JCC ABC's Good Morning America praises an 11 year old drag kid being at a gay strip bar

Discussion in 'Community' started by A Blind Prophet, Dec 22, 2018.

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What does this say about where we are as a culture?

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  1. A Blind Prophet

    A Blind Prophet Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    interview with another drag queen:



    short ben shapiro video on it (i know, conservative, booo...) go to 1:02 on this one to see the kid actually on the stage.



    and apparently other stuff like this is going on as well?

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article1959155.html

    okay... seriously. what the actual **** is going on with this? how is this being treated like a good thing?
     
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  2. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Uhhhh... I'm just gong to say it.


    Get the **** out.
     
  3. A Blind Prophet

    A Blind Prophet Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    me or them?
     
  4. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    You
     
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  5. A Blind Prophet

    A Blind Prophet Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    so you have no problem with this? really?
     
  6. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    I have more of a problem with you being irrationally afraid of a child who is different from you. Grow up.
     
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  7. A Blind Prophet

    A Blind Prophet Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    what part of 11 year old stripping on stage are you missing here? that's totally illegal.

    or the miami herald, 13 year old stripping on stage?

    you're okay with this?
     
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  8. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    You ask the weirdest questions.


    Why do you care? How is this hurting you?
     
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  9. A Blind Prophet

    A Blind Prophet Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    ...

    because you seem to be okay with the sexual exploitation of minors? how is this an okay thing that shouldn't be cared about?
     
  10. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Nice straw man.

    I'm done with you... later.
     
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  11. Mortimer Snerd

    Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost star 4

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    Yeah, go away. Manufactured outrage drives enough idiocy on facebook.
     
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  12. A Blind Prophet

    A Blind Prophet Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    you throwing this at me and making me into a homophobe is a nice straw man. ignoring my very pointed question about legality of minors stripping on stage for adults? that's just being blatantly obtuse.

    if that's the general attitude here, that minors stripping is alright, then i'm done with this place permanently.

    wow... just wow. okay.
     
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  13. Harpua

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  14. AutumnLight91

    AutumnLight91 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Its disgusting and wrong. Part of the reason I'm getting away from all the news
     
  15. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    From what I saw, the 11 year old danced fully clothed. I'm guessing there's nothing illegal about that? This example seems more permissiveness than exploitation. It seems to be more about a kid who likes to dress up in drag and dance. I wouldn't let a hypothetical kid of mine dance in an adult club, but it's not my kid.

    According to the article, the 13 year old resulted in several arrests and what looks like zero tolerance, as it should have. Not sure what more there is to say.
     
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  16. Ava G.

    Ava G. Force Ghost star 5

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexua..._pageants#Consequences_of_child_sexualization

    This has been going on for a very long time. The reason you're taking flack is that it's conveniently shocking again when the spotlight is pointed on a male expressing femininity.
     
  17. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Dancing, fine. Stripping, bad. For minors that is. It's pretty easy.
     
  18. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Children stripping is bad, but so is framing it in a misleading way (the drag dancer and the stripper being two different people). Oh, and it's hard to take anyone who posts a Ben Shapiro video seriously.
     
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  19. poor yorick

    poor yorick Ex-Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Okay, so i’ll try to translate ... drag shows are not particularly about titillating the audience. They’re about supporting performers while they are being themselves. Offering dollar bills doesn’t mean, “get naked with me later, “ it means “I support you in your work of surviving in the world.” Historically, people who participated in drag were shunned and denied opportunities to support themselves at traditional jobs. Drag was a way for these individuals to get cash to live on. That’s the background, not heterosexual fantasies about sleeping with exotic dancers.

    Edit: dunno if it’s great for children to participate in a forum traditionally associated with adults. But I also don’t know that it’s great for kids to act professionally in general.
     
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  20. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    i choose "bad, appalling" for the decision to create this thread.

    transphobic fear-mongering is not welcome here.
     
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