About Midichlorian levels

Has it ever been established in the EU what the standard midichlorian level is amongst Jedi? It just seemed silly to me that they would reveal Anakin to have any set of midichlorians without also revealing what the standard is. All that they said was that it was huge.

 

I don't think we have an average mid count for jedis but we do have an average mid count for non-sensitive people: around 2,500 midichlorians per cell.

 

Source?

 

Wookiepedia

Anakin: +20,000
Yoda: -20,000

According to SuperShadow.com
(which appears to be some sort of SW fan site)

The average Jedi had about 10,000 midiclorians per cell.

However, I saw no sources on their site, so take the information with a barrel full of salt.

 

I think it's like power level's in dbz a made up number that they don't keep track of

 

SuperShadow = Notorious liar.

I think it's supposed to be a parody/funny.

It just isn't.

For midi-chlorian counts? Meh.

In fact, I'd really love an author/comic book writer to come along and say that they're not even a fixed number, but that they wax and wane as one grows stronger in the Force. Or, at least, that one's inital count is just their "baseline", below which they cannot fall - but they can produce more and more as they become more attuned to the Force.

My guess at the minute would be that Yoda is approaching 20,000 midis, whilst Anakin is double whatever Palpatine is: (18,666? )

If it even works like that. Maybe it's more like the richter scale.

 

The Death Star novel. Uli finds a trooper on the Death Star has about 3000 midis per cell, while the average citizen has only 2500.

 

Does Midis bother anyone else like it does me?

I dislike a scientific explanation for the force

 

never was a fan of it but not like we can change it back...

 

Its the only thing that makes me question Lucas writing. After all the great lines hes given us about the force, binding living things together, being the life stream, etc. . . . he comes out with that its these little things in your blood. weird.

Never mind

 

The Force is as much an energy field that binds all life as it's ever been. Midi-chlorians are not the Force.

 

They create the force do they not?

 

No.

ANAKIN : Master, sir...I've been wondering...what are midi-chlorians?
QUI-GON : Midi-chlorians are a microscopic lifeform that reside within all
living cells and communicate with the Force.
ANAKIN : They live inside of me?
QUI-GON : In your cells. We are symbionts with the midi-chlorians.
ANAKIN : Symbionts?
QUI-GON : Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the
midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the
Force. They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force.

 

Well, yes.

But that's because they're living things and ALL living things create the Force. That's been the case since forever.

 

For all we know Midiclorians just prefer to live in Force-sensitve-beings. So in a being with the Force the concentration is higher.

 

I?d love to know Midichlorian levels of certain characters

I suspect it goes something like this

Anakin ? 20,000 +
Palpatine ? 18,000+
Yoda ? 18,000+
Mace ? 17500
Dooku, Kenobi, Maul ? 17000

Etc


Hopefully the upcoming essential guide to the force will clear things up.

 

i would agree with that, even if we dont know for sure. sounds about right. i would put Luke in Anakin's range (20k +).

 

Sorry, perhaps I said my thoughts wrong.

Are midis not the things that recieve the force for its user? almost like an antenna to a television?

 

The easiest way to reconcile it is to think of the Midis as a symbiotic lifeform that is attracted to people with potential in the force, who may be using the force on an unconcious basis already, as Anakin surely was by being the only human podracer.

I've also wondered if the Midis were some sort of bio-weapon tagging procedure created by a long dead race and let loose on the galactic population. The stronger the Force naturally burns in someone, the more they can replicate.

Obviously, that's my personal fanon, but that's what allows me to ignore it.

 

I do like this idea that they are something different, attracted to the force. perhaps the Jedi council misunderstood what they were.

This also quells my annoyance that anakin had a higher count than yoda. I always had yoda as the supreme jedi (yes i realise this is wrong, but the way hes presented in esb and rotj has stuck it in my mind)

 

Given the line "over 20,000" for Anakin I suppose that means his count is between 20,000 and 21,000 since people like to use nice round numbers. Obi Wan did not say over 21k he said over 20k.

The DS novel says the average non-Force wielder has 2,500? I guess that means the trooper with 3,000 is a little luckier at the roulette tables on Bespin.

I wonder what the cutoff is before a genuine super power comes around. Perhaps twice the average? 5,000 and you find you can jump twice as far as before? But what if the progression is geometric? Perhaps every thousand denotes twice the ability of the previous thousand.

 

The trooper in question actually had 5,000 not 3,000.

From what little we got to see, his 5,000 count let him already "see" his opponents' movements before they made it(in hand to hand combat), had premonitions in his dreams and lively felt Despayre's destruction.

And just to be safe in the spoiler side:

He also "felt" that Han and Chewie weren't meant to die in the Death Star so he is the one to delay the stormtroopers when they find themselves overwhelmed by them (the ANH scene where Han follows some troopers to the large room with a lot more and retreats)

Pretty neat for mere 5,000...

 

Your reasoning is incorrect.

Obi-Wan said, "the reading is off the chart - over twenty thousand."

That means it could have been over 100,000 for all he knew. The implication is that the chart only went up to 20,000.

 

But then we might have been able to see it if that were true.

"The reading's off the charts. Literally. The graph is poking out of the computer and hitting me in the eye."

 

From that line, we know Anakin's midichlorian level is over 20,000, that much is definite. We can also tell that Yoda's level is under 20k, probably.

However, I don't think that Anakin's power level would be ridiculously high as a 50,000. Maybe 30k or 40k, but I doubt higher than that. Anakin was extremly powerful, but a lot of Jedi could give him a run for his money. Obi-wan for instance, despite being much less powerful, was able to duel with Anakin on an equal footing for most of their time together and Obi-wan won on Mustafar too.