PT Abuse in the Jedi Order

Not being perverted here, but being realistic. Wouldn't an organization like the Jedi (not unlike the Catholic Church) be rife with abuse towards children? Think about it, impressionable youth who are taken away from their families and entrusted to a "master" whose favour they spend their life trying to gain? Seems like a very dangerous premise. As we know with Anakin, a Jedi can give into sexual/violenent temptations and still keep it hidden remaining in the Jedi Order.

 

Does make one wonder what Dooku or Krell were like as Jedi Masters to their apprentices, if any (we know Qui-Gon was Dooku's apprentice at least).

Qui-Gon, in Legacy of the Jedi - notes to himself that theirs wasn't a particularly close pairing - not like him and Obi-Wan. I could see the "detached" attitude producing very aloof Masters in most cases.

 

I guess stuff like that could happen, but I try to leave darker issues out of star wars as I prefer star wars to be a fun escapism franchise.

 

There's obviously no child molesting in SW. The premise of the thread is looking at it through a lense of realism, by the law of averages, there would be Jedi who are attracted to children and act on those attractions.

I kind of agree. It's a dark issue to discuss, but there are so many dark moments in SW that pull deep emotions out of me. The most relevant in this case I can think of is the guy that buys a slave child and eats her in Dark Times.

 

Which is kind of the point - I figure that even if a 14+ year old student was attracted to their mentor - the mentor wouldn't reciprocate - they'd tend to stay emotionally distant.

 

Oh, okay, sorry about misreading the meaning of the thread, as I have a bad habit of not reading the whole first post at times. As for the topic, I never really gave it much thought, though it's certainly possible if your looking through a realistic lens.

 

Child abuse would be exactly the kind of stuff the leadership of the Order would try to prevent. We are speaking of people that gain crazy evil powers when they become to desperate, too angry, or too controlled by their desires. The abuser would go Dark because of what they do, and the abused children would grow to become Siths bent on destroying the Jedi Order and the Republic.

 

Apparently the Jedi Trials (for promotion to Knighthood) could get a bit nasty in the Pius Dea era of the old EU. But that's not really children - more young adults - late teens/early 20s:

The Jedi Path

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During the Pius Dea era, the Jedi Order subjected Padawans to torments of cold, cuts, sonic shocks, and the application of sustained, low-powered blaster fire in the technique that smugglers call "the Burning". Now condemned as barbarism, this practice is best understood as a product of its time. It did, however, crystallize the Trial of the Flesh's most fundamental principle: divorcing the self from the spirit.

 

Doylist answer: If Star Wars was full of sexual abuse and child-molestation, it wouldn't be Star Wars as we know it.

Watsonian answer: Anti-libido drugs are definitely within the GFFA's technological scope. That, and the facts that lifelong celibacy isn't enforced, and that many Jedi Masters have an apprentice of another species (making the two sexually incompatible), would basically eliminate the threat of child-molesters in the Jedi Order.

There's boarding schools that are even more notorious for sexual abuse than the Catholic Church.

This is also true. Of course, it's all a numbers question (how many kids ever come in contact with priests, compared to their biological family?), but the statistical amount of Catholic priests molesting children is fairly small.

 

The children who are raised by the Jedi Order are treated like family. The Padawans aren't trying to curry favor from their Masters, since that is steeped in selfishness and pride, something that the Jedi do not preach. This is why the Code forbids two Padawans to one Master. Obi-wan looked up to Qui-gon, but as a son to a father figure. But there was never any ill will of the sort. Anakin's feelings for Padme was more to do with his being raised by his mother for nine years and by Obi-wan for ten years, as well as having a Sith Lord contradicting all of that. It wasn't wrong for Anakin to have a physical relationship with Padme, but it was wrong for him to become attached to her and to marry her. The violence is the result of Palpatine fostering the notion that he is the most powerful Jedi of all, which is the sin of pride and vanity. Thus when he fails in the most personal way, he turns around and lashes out, all the while ignoring his Jedi training.

 

The Sith would seem more prone to sexual abuse than the Jedi .In real world terms Anakin was to all intents and purposes groomed by Sidious. The sith rule of two is a vicious circle of abuse ,like many sex offenders are themselves victims of abuse in child hood a Sith lord picks a force sensitive child and violently controls it every living moment until the apprentice kills the master and the circle of abuse begins again.