Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??

Hi,
The other day I saw for the first that Hasbro had released an action figure set of the Death Star briefing room scene in EPISODE IV and I saw a "Colonel Wullf Yularen" named in the set.
According to the Wookiepedia (Yularen is not mention in the official sites' Databank) that this is indeed Admiral Yularen of THE CLONE WARS. It's the officer in the white uniform.

The Wookiepedia says that in the commentary for THE CLONE WARS MOVIE, "it was explained by the creators that Yularen was portrayed as an admiral as a means of showing him rising through the ranks to Grand Admiral?which, the creators believed, was his rank in Episode IV given the fact that the unnamed actor who portrayed Yularen wore a white uniform similar to that of the Grand Admirals." - although I never knew his name I believed this also.

Apparently details of Yularen's post?Clone Wars career appear in The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide. Can anybody tell how Yularen ends up with the lower rank of colonel? Does he resign after THE CLONE WARS? Why does he not rise higher in the ranks?

No CLONE WARS episode spoilers please.

Cheers.

 

People can say what they want, but in my version of canon our boy Wulf definitely became a Grand Admiral.

 

Once the Republic became the Empire, Yularen soon joined the "Imperial Security Bureau," mainly the Empire's security, and he served as a colonel. He eventually served on the Death Star in 0 BBY, and died instantly when the battle station exploded over Yavin 4. True stuff.

 

Not if anything to say about it, Filoni has

 

It's not his decision to retcon that, however. Let me remind us that this is GL's creation, not Filoni's.

 

We were never given any evidence that Yularen was on the Death Star when it blew up. He could have left on one of the Star Destroyers that orbited the station at the beginning of the movie.

 

The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star.

 

Yes, but it most likely wasn't GL who wrote that little tidbit about Yularen's demise. It's probably the work of some EU author or whatnot. So if Filoni decides to establish something different, it's unlikely that GL would have anything against it.

 

"The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star."

Can you translate for the humble grasshopper?

 

I imagine it's Star Wars Encyclopedia and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

 

Thanks for the answer.

If that?s the only place its written, then I wouldn?t really say its written in stone.

 

Precisely. While Steven Sansweet wrote the original SWE and the CSWE, Pablo Hidalgo, Bob Vitas, Daniel Wallace, Mary Franklin, Josh Kushins, Chris Cassidy wrote for the CSWE.

 

Guys, everybody but The2ndQuest, missed the point of my post. The issue isn't about retconning or who survived what.

The2ndQuest, do you mean that Yularen was demoted as such , but that the rank of colonel in the Intelligence Service is the equivalent of Admiral?

 

Not really equivalent, careers in the Navy and the ISB don't progress the same way. He abandoned his rank as a Navy Commander to join the ISB, wher he aquired a different, independent rank. It wasn't a demotion nor a promotion, just a change to a different branch.

 

This leads me to another question.

are the Imperial/Old Republic/New Republic military forces an "all in one"? what I mean is that there does not seem to be an Infantry, Airforce and Navy as such in the movies and CLONE WARS series. yes, there are pilots, troopers and "sailors" but they all seem to be commanded as one "force" rather than different "branches".

am I correct?

 

The description on the card doesn't sound like the kind and lovable Yularen from TCW.

 

Which is why they are gradually changing his character. In season 2 he's been much more critical of the Jedi as well as a bit obnoxious. I guess he's on his way to becoming that sort of typical Imperial Officer.

Well, I don't know about the "Grand Army of the Republic", but as far as the EU goes, the Empire, Rebellion and New Republic had different branches within its military forces. Army, Navy, Starfighter Corps, all that. Maybe because the Clone Army came "already assembled in the box" they don't have such distinctions. They are all clones, trained and geared in Kamino, so it doesn't make much sense to divide them into branches.

 

But Jedi command their fleets as well as ground troops. Yularen seems to be the only "human" in the Grand Army - which by the way covers space and ground operations - as there has never been mention of a "navy".

but stormtroopers are not just "ground troops". they are all over the Death Star and Star Destroyers.

In all three military forces there are different "sections" - starfighters, battleships, ground troops - but all under one "organization". even the uniforms - Veers is wearing the same outfit as Ozzel and Piett.

exactly - actually I detected a good deal of hostility towards Anakin in CARGO OF DOOM

Yes, were the stormtroopers and their generals actually part of the Imperial fleet - the movies seem to imply that the "army" and "navy" were one organization.

 

I have a theory:

Yularen was sick of Anakin's recklessness, right? He didn't really respect his judgements or whatever, so when Anakin became Darth Vader, he demoted Yularen to colonel for that.

 

When was it ever implied that the Army and Navy were the same organization? I mean, it's quite clearly established in "A New Hope" that they were separate - recall the scene in the conference room, with the different chains of command arguing back and forth. "Dangerous to -your- Starfleet, commander!" and so forth. There is very clearly an Imperial Army, an Imperial Navy (or Imperial Starfleet) and the other branches, like the Stormtrooper Corps, ISB, Intelligence, etc. That is why you have different ranks - an Admiral for the Navy (Admiral Piett), General for the Army (Veers), etc. Just because they all happen to be stationed aboard a Star Destroyer does not imply they are all part of the same branch. How do you expect Imperial soldiers in the Army to get transported around the galaxy to invade planets if not aboard the fleet's ships?

Plus, every single source outside the movies - all the sourcebooks, essential guides, encyclopedias, books, games, etc - all note that the Army, Navy, STs, etc are separate entities under the Imperial Military.

 

And the lovable Commander Cody doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would try to shoot Obi Wan in the back with a cannon.