Alien 3 SE Questions

Hey i have some questions about alien 3 SE. Hope you guys can help.

For one i remember in the original version that the alien popped out of a dog, but in the SE it shows the alien popping out of a cow. Does anyone know the reason why they switched this?

Another things why didn't they show the alien popping out of ripley at the end when she was falling into the fire? In the original just before she hits the flames the alien pops out, but in the SE they dont even show it popping out. That was one of the coolest scenes....why was the taken out in the SE?

hope you guys can help. thanks.

 

Because special editions suck.

It was a special edition that gave us Greedo shooting first and Luke screaming like a girl in Cloud City.

EDIT - To answer your question....

I don't know about the Ripley burster scene, but the alien was originally supposed to come out of the ox. They changed it when they decided that an ox living on a lice-infested prison planet was a stretch.

So they made it into a Prisoner's dog.

Which was a much better method.

 

but now they thought the cow was good?

Heres a reason why i'm thinking they didn't show the alien popping out of ripley and correct me if i'm wrong.

I only saw the original alien 3 movie 1 or 2 times. But i dont remember them saying that ripley was gonna have a queen alien in her. IF in the SE they put back the scenes in which they talk about it being a queen alien, maybe they took out the part where the alien pops out of ripley because that alien that popped out was just a regular alien.

So since they didn't make a queen alien pop out they figure we might as well not show the alien come out cuz people would be confused cuz they said a queen alien was in here , but we see a regular looking alien pop out.

but if they did say in the original it was a queen then my theory is flawed.

 

^^^

you could be right but I sort of remember the alien that came out of Ripley looking a little more "queen line" than a typical chest burster. So I don't know.

 

maybe, again i only saw the original alien 3, 1 or 2 times and that was a long time ago.

 

I think the reason they changed the scene back to the ox/cow was to visualize Fury-161 as a backwater planet. They had no tools or machinery, so they resorted agriculture and grew what they needed to survive.

But it still sucks. The dog was a better idea.



And I thouhgt the queen was understood, as the alien wouldn't kill Ripley.

 

For one i remember in the original version that the alien popped out of a dog, but in the SE it shows the alien popping out of a cow. Does anyone know the reason why they switched this?

Because the SE has an extended opening sequence that introduces the bison creatures.


Another things why didn't they show the alien popping out of ripley at the end when she was falling into the fire? In the original just before she hits the flames the alien pops out, but in the SE they dont even show it popping out. That was one of the coolest scenes....why was the taken out in the SE?

I think the scene hits you harder without the alien popping out. In that case, Ripley was willing to sacrifice herself immediately in order to do away with the aliens, even though she was not moments away from death.

 

Also correct me if i'm wrong on this. I always wondered why the heck it took the alien so long to come out of ripley.

In the original alien movie the alien popped out of the guys chess right when the guy went to eat. He woke up and said "i could use something to eat" and when they did eat thats when it came out of him. So thats like half an hour or an hour. but for Ripley in alien 3 it took days.

But when i saw alien 3 SE it hit me that maybe the alien took so long to come out of ripley because it was a queen, therefor it took more time for it to develop and come out.

would that be correct?

 

Thats what I was thinking. I guess hosting a Queen takes more incubation time.

 

So did they say in the original alien 3 that the alien in ripley was a queen or was it added in the SE.

i know in alien 4 they said its a queen cuz thats how they got more aliens, through ripleys clone which had a queen alien in her.

I just dont remember if it was in the original alien 3.

 

a) The Alien 3 novel and original screenplay was written with the ox involved. Alien 3 was then shown to preview audiences in America who had a huge list of complaints about it. So they changed the movie to fit in the dog, alien bursting out of Ripley's chest etc, thus turning an excellent movie into the big pile of crap that is the original Alien 3. (As you may have guessed, I'm a SE aficionado, I also prefer the Aliens SE and the Alien Director's Cut to the originals)

b) The Alien 3 novel also says that a Queen would take a longer time to gestate, but at that point it's just speculation on Ripley, Dillon and Aaron's part.

 

well i like the ox better since when the alien comes out its bigger. it makes sense since the ox is bigger then a human. where as it didn't make sense when it came out of the dog. Why would a bigger alien come out of a dog that is smaller then a human?

 

Well, the Ox thing has been covered, and imo, was a much better choice.

Another reason for not having the Queen erupt through Ripley's chest was that it made her the only person in all the films to live past that moment, holding onto the alien and restraining it as it came out of her chest.

Every other single person died at that point, but not Ripley, hence the change.

Also, the Alien 3 SE as a whole is a much better film, they re-added several sub-plots, such as the religious inmates seeing the Alien as a demon and that their apocolypse was upon them.

A far superior film to that washed down, nuetured tripe they wound up releasing the first time.

 

true about everyone die when the alien came out of them, where as ripley was all calm and holding the alien.

but heres another question. how did the egg get on the ceiling of the room ripley and nout (spelling) were sleeping in.

in the start of alien 3 it shows a egg on the ceiling (ok maybe not the same room, but INSIDE the ship)

the queen alien in alien 2 hitched a ride on the ship the excaped the planet. WHen the ship was in the docking bay on the Sulaco (thats the name right) thats when the queen came out. SO if the queen made 2 eggs (one for ripley and the one that took over the cow) then the eggs should be where the queen was hiding. on top of the landing gears.

the queen couldn't of layed the eggs anywhere else because she stayed hidden inside the landing gear section until it came out and killed bishop.

then she fought with ripley and was blasted into space.

So how did the eggs get inside a room? (the eggs dont have legs. they're just eggs)

 

For example. Look at the first two pictures from ALIENS. The queen was up there the whole time. She never left the area until she killed bishop and fought ripley. the queen did not go anywhere else on the ship.

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So how did she plant a egg outside the docking bay? THis is in a whole different room (even possibly the room ripley is sleeping in)

This picture is from Alien 3.

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One of the Aliens got on board the ship when the drop ship first landed to drop off the all terrain vechile, I assume.

Also, the Alien 3 SE, is simply a Director's Version that is not finished.

 

I only saw the original alien 3 movie 1 or 2 times. But i dont remember them saying that ripley was gonna have a queen alien in her.

You remember incorrectly. The original version of Alien3 made it quite clear that there was a Queen inside Ripley (hence the company's interest in her).

 

I seem to remember them mentioning it was a Queen inside of her as well.

 

All this discussion is useless, for Alien3, whether dog or ox, still falls short of the glory and the power that was....

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i think the biggest question is how did the eggs get onboard the sulaco

 

Inexplicable plothole.



Go n-ithe an cat thú is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat.

 

You know after watching the behind the scenes i've come to realise that the actor that played Hicks in Aliens accually wanted to be in ALien 3.

I always assumed the reason he wasn't in alien 3 was because he didn't want to. (seeing as how in every sequal the first thing they do is try to get as many of the characters from the previous film into the new one)

This actor was pissed when he found out he wasn't in Alien 3. That sucks. He was awsome in aliens and woulda be great in alien 3 (which i'm sure he would die in that one)

i can see why they didn't use the nute girl. seeing as how the actress would of aged and no longer look like a 10yr old.

 

`Also, the Alien 3 SE, is simply a Director's Version that is not finished.'

To be accurate, Fincher says there is no directors cut. That it would have to be restarted from scratch. At least that's righly how it reads in the nine disc set.

Fincher disowns it.

 

The "Alien 3 SE" was the ORIGINAL version of the movie made in 1991. IMO, it was far superior to the 1992 Theatrical Release.

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