All Hail Lord (Lady) Revan!

Personally, I prefer to stick to gender neutral terms since I rather preferred Darth Revan as a girl. The Jedi Exile just seems so....second tier....compared to Darth Revan. You actually have the poor girl being nothing more than Revan's sidekick in the series.

However, I'm interested in discussing how you think the original KOTOR game's character has impacted the EU.

S/he's become the new Thrawn for popularity. Appearing in POD: Darth Bane and the (presumed) cloaked figure in KOTOR.

 

Yeah, Revan's popularity is probably comparable with that of Thrawn's, as KOTOR is a very popular game, both in and out of the fandom. Probably similar to TTT in popularity.

 

I'm with you on wanting Revan as a woman, Charles. It just made it seem that much more powerful a story, and added some richness to the Sith, and the Saga as a whole.

A female Exile I can take or leave, however.

 

Well, the Bastilla connection makes less sense and it's a great romance between Revan/Bastilla in the male side.

Oddly, the Carth Romance wasn't really that interesting to me until I found out about the cut version.

While it's truly a HORRIBLE ending, the cut ending with Carth and Revan moves it up to equality with the Bastilla/Revan one.

 

Frankly I always preferred the fact that you could choose whether Revan was male or female...same with the exile. When I learned that they had made Revan a male and the exile a female I was perplexed.

 

I rather like the Canon Male Revan. The in-game romance simply becomes a bit more powerful and is more interesting. The Dark Lady of the Sith/Former Dark Lady of the Sith and a guy like Carth...Blah. I do agree that the Exile doesn't really matter....none of the romances were terribly intriguing although I would probably pick female Exile/Atton over Male Exile prepositioning Mira. Actually, I still wouldn't mind the comic going in a direction where Zayne could be reconned as Atton.

Anyway, Revan went from cool game character to having a cult following of epic proportions overnight. At times it seemed as though Lucas' portrayal of Darth Sidious ran into trouble when he had to compete with the bar that Revan had set so high.

It helped the game sell well and got people really excited about KoToR II as well as the comics (and a possible KoToR III) but really, I don't think Revan should suddenly be the standard to which all other Sith are held. His inclusion in DBPoD:ANOTOR didn't help things. The implication that Revan r0x0r3d in his time, helped bring about the destruction of the Brotherhood of Darkness, and finally led to the rule of two and the rise of Palpatine is a little much.

 

I always preferred a male Exile myself just purely for the fact that the characters that come along with him on his ride are far more interesting. So you know, Handmaiden>>>>>>Disciple.

As for Revan, he really does seem to nearly be the "Superman" of the GFFA, but I don't mind that personally. It's fun every now and then to just have a completely over the top character in terms of powers and abilities.

I don't think he really takes anything away from the movie characters either. Sidious is still the ultimate Sith because he DID what Revan couldn't do. He wiped the Republic completely out and purged the galaxy of the Jedi better than Revan and his fellow Sith ever did.

And I always took that Revan was talking about how there should be only 2 Dark Lords at the one time whilst still having an army of Sith. But Bane took that little tidbit and made a variation of it and created a real "Rule of 2". Not just 2 Dark Lords, Lords or Darths, just 2 straight up Sith.

 

Yes, it rather tragically causes Revan to have left a legacy of evil than redemption.

 

Ah, Revan... my favorite Star Wars character, how I love you! Revan's story, although not 100% clear, is a great one. And as time goes by his story gets more interesting thanks to the Darth Bane novel and the KOTOR comics.

All Hail Revan!

 

Heh. Truer words have never been written.

 

Another fan of both characters being male, simply because I think their stories are more interesting that way. Especially the Exile's.

 

See, I didn't play either game until after the genders had been confirmed, so I can't picture it any other way.

 

For me, it didn't matter. I just liked the idea of the petite girls pictured being planet destroying conquerors.

 

What does this have to do with Literature? (By the way, male Revan all the way... chick Revan = ridiculous)

 

Because Revan is part of the literature EU?

 

My bad, I didn't read your first post all the way through. Anyways, there is already a thread on KOTOR and its affect on the EU:
Party on, Zayne! Party on, Carth! KotOR (comics & games) and the EU (Spoilers Allowed)

 

The female exile is hotter than the female Revan, so I say we should have male Revan and female Exile ;p

 

It has to be Male Revan - the 'forbidden' romance with Bastila adds extra spice to it.

Exile - character wise wasn't really developed enough to allow me to make an informed decision about it really, but I think I might stick with the canon female on this one. If they had better developed the romance(s) then I might have been able to make a choice.

 

I second Lank_Pavail, here.

But I'm quoting this to ask about the cut version? What? Where?

 

I assume the cut ending being refered to is if you play through as female Revan and go DS on the Star Forge you get confronted by Carth one last time afterwards. IIRC you had the option to see that you were wrong, turn on Bastila and stay on the Star Forge with Carth as it is destroyed.

For me it is male Revan and male Exile, the stories are more complete and more interesting that way around for me.

 

Male Revan made much more sense.

For one thing Bastilla's fall to the dark side had another element in it. The element was the possibility that she fell to the dark side because of the romance you and she had. Even though it's part of the story regardless of what you do. But for me it felt that I helped cause the mess that she ended up in, and it was even more important to bring her back to not only redeem Revan's past actions as the Dark Lord, but as the reborn jedi as well.

As for the Exile, I prefer male as well, but I have never played through the game as a female so I don't know. Just that Vistas' romance, or her infatuation made more sense, and Handmaiden becoming a jedi also fit really well.

 

Honestly, 99 percent of Revan's popularity stems solely from the fact that he's the Sith Lord that was "you."

We get dribs and drabs of his personality in the original game, but the bottom line is that the main reason he's so "cool" is because he becomes as cool as we make him in our own heads. By KotOR 2 Revan's "cult of personality" was established so they let Kreia throw out a lot more stuff that made him sound extra-cool. And giving him a "mission" that makes him sound "less bad" than most other Sith (which may ultimately be true, given that he ended up on the Light Side, indicating that his true nature was a heroic one).

Either way, he's the Sith Lord that most people that play the game are going to feel the most personal connection with. We feel like we know him, because we "were him." For that reason alone, I'm almost dreading if the KotOR comic series plans to flesh him out further. Because in a lot of ways, the more we come to know about Revan, the less interesting he becomes, and the further away he gets from the "perfect" version that each of us has envisioned in our own heads.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGrniVfokfY

Here's the cut ending.