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Am I only one who feels Lando got a bad rap?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by metal134, Oct 30, 2005.

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  1. metal134

    metal134 Jedi Youngling

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    The consensus about Land Calrissian is that he was a selfish character who ultimatley turned into a selfless character. Even George Lucas has expressed this sentiment. But I don't feel this is the case. I feel that Lando was acting selflessly, all along. First off, Lando didn't make his deal with Vader based on his on selfish reasons. For one, he had a responsibility to all the people of Cloud City, it wasn't his own hide he was trying to save. So one the surface, it would appear that the choice was to save the thousands of people of Cloud City, or save his friend. If that were the case, how could you say he made a selfish decision? But anyway, that is not the case. When lando told han "I had no choice", he was telling the truth. Lets say for a minute that Lando decided to not make the deal, that he owuld not turn over his friend. Would that have changed a thing? If he did that, not only would he have sacfricied himself and who knmow how many others in Cloud City (we don't know exactly what threat he was faced with, but we can assume that mass destruction was involved), hNobody would have been saved. So it was either save his people and give up Han, or save nobody. he was faced wityh a no-win sitaution, and to say he made a selfish decision, is in my eyes, ridiculous.
     
  2. lorn_zahl

    lorn_zahl Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't think the welfare of Cloud City would be in any real danger or horrid oppresion. If that happened the facility would stop making as much money thus losing it's use in the first place. You are correct he was probably at some level trying to save his people though I think Lando was looking out for his pocket book more than anything.





    That's why I agree with Lucas, it's a tale of redemption for our friend Lando and in a way it foreshadows Darth Vader's turn to the light side of the force, IMO of course.



     
  3. the-shrude-dude

    the-shrude-dude Jedi Youngling star 1

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    i agree with the first post. Lando was acting for his people. He was a responsible bloke.
     
  4. darthzeppo

    darthzeppo Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Only a fool would say no to Darth Vader.
     
  5. ObiWan506

    ObiWan506 Former Head Admin star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lando did sorta start off on the wrong foot.

    Either way, moving to the CT Forum.
     
  6. DarthButt

    DarthButt Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yep.

    He looks like he's a bad guy because the way his character was built up:

    Han: "Lando's not a system, he's a man. Lando Calrissian: card player, gambler, scoundrel - you'd like him."

    Leia: "Do you trust him?"

    Han: "No, but he's got no love for the Emprire, I can tell you that."


    Then he sells out his "friend".

    Okay Lando is a cheeseball (hitting on Leia, etc.), but who's to say he was really a bad guy though? Han? Han didn't like very many people anyway :) So he sold out Han, but he was doing what he thought was the best thing for his people. We were just attached to Han's character..he became our friend. Lando betrayed our friend and due to that, he came off as a bad guy initially. Looking at his character as a whole helps us see the true colors.
     
  7. loebs

    loebs Jedi Youngling star 1

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    personally i feel he only should of been in ESB or at least leave Jabba after that was done and let Wedge shine as the leader of death star attack
     
  8. metal134

    metal134 Jedi Youngling

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    Come on,he was too busy juggling the pitching staff.:D:

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  9. R4P17DC

    R4P17DC Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Am I only one who feels Lando got a bad rap?
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    "Indeed."
     
  10. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    it's because he was BLACK.[face_laugh] the Black man never gets a break.
     
  11. yoshifett

    yoshifett Jedi Knight star 5

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    I love Lando, I just bought an action figure of him with disguise on for ROTJ.
     
  12. BrideofVader

    BrideofVader Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Let's face it. Leia's a b----. People sympathize with her because she's a princess, but she's a snot!

    But she did right in not trusting Lando after his betrayal, even though Lando did the best he could under the circumstances. Lando was, in ESB, a better person than Han was in ANH. He's a man with responsibilities, and he takes them seriously. He has families of people in his city that he's got to look after. But making any deal with the Empire is fruitless and stupid. I mean, Vader was constantly altering the deal. But what choice has he? Han Solo, guy I lost my ship to in a card game and I haven't seen him in a long time. Bespin, city in the clouds, women and children, men and droids, a thriving economy and EMPIRE! They want to take over, take MY money, make MY women and children suffer, and enslave MY men and droids. Nope. Here ya go, Vader. Han Solo. By the way, what do I do with the Princess and the Wookie?

    On second thought.... or third... he's still not playing with a full deck.
     
  13. darthvaderv

    darthvaderv Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In that circumstance most would do the same, they would be foolish not to. Any wrong doings Lando was involved in were redeemed when he helped Leia and tried to save Han.
     
  14. Darth_Rags

    Darth_Rags Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I feel sorry for the actor and the character that when anybody talks about the main group of the OT they never include Lando.
     
  15. Ewok_Infestation

    Ewok_Infestation Jedi Youngling

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    I feel sorry for the actor and the character that when anybody talks about the main group of the OT they never include Lando.

    Billy Dee Williams has stated that strangers have approached him only to engage in a long-winded series of diatribes about how Lando should not have "sold out" his good friend, Han Solo. According to Williams, these people then accuse him of being selfish and irresponsible - as if he *were* actually Lando Calrissian.
     
  16. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Force Ghost star 6

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    Not sure why people say he got a bad rap, after all the rebels made him a general and let him lead the assault on the death star.
     
  17. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    Someone once pointed out that Lando's real crime is the same as Han's - both seemed to harbor an indifference toward the Rebel Alliance's struggles against the Empire. Han only gets involved through the promise of money. Lando spends his time on Bespin, hoping and praying that the Empire does not stumble across the mining colony. He has no desire to get involved no more than Han.

    Do I think that Lando has received a bad rap over the years?

    YES! First of all, he found himself in this position, because Bobo Fett managed to tag after the Millinium Falcon, without Han's knowlege. And guess where the Corellian was headed. Second, one could only wonder what would have happened to Bespin if Lando had either refused to cooperate with Vader or go behind the Sith Lord's back and warn Han. Third, why on earth should Lando be loyal to guy who may or may not have cheated him out of the Millinium Falcon?

    Overall, I think that Lando was put in a situation in which he could not win. Something that Leia and Chewie in their anger, had failed to grasp. In fact, I found Leia encouraging Chewie to strangle Lando a lot more disturbing. Someone once pointed out in an essay that the real betrayal on Bespin had been perputrated by Darth Vader, when he went back on his promise to Lando after Luke was reported approaching the planet.
     
  18. Atticus

    Atticus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well now that you mention it, I agree with you.
     
  19. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's because he's black.
     
  20. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    I hope that you're wrong, but considering how a lot of Sci-Fi/Fantasy fans feel about [bambiguous[/b]characters portrayed by Black actors . . . I just hope that you're wrong.
     
  21. jundlandwastedweller

    jundlandwastedweller Jedi Youngling

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    Lando did the best he could in a bad situation, if he told Vader no i expect vader would just take what he wanted anyway then destroy the place.
     
  22. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    You know, I first took a dislike to Lando the moment he said "Hello, what have we here?"...

    ...but eventually, he won me over and now he's a character I'm very fond of.

    I agree that he was in a difficult situation and while it appeared he was betraying his friends at first, appearances can be deceiving. He actually had a plan that he had to keep to himself until the right time.

    In that context, I would say yes, he sometimes gets a bad rap.
     
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