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An innocent man on death row

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  1. Jedi_Master_Orion

    Jedi_Master_Orion Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My sister began writting to a Texas man on death row last year named Bobby Ray Hopkins , becasue he notived an aritcle about here in a quater horse magazine. Last month he was given an execution date of February 12th 2004, he will be exectuted in a few hours, within the link I'v provied you with is his entire story, and I'l will have you know he is and innocent man on death row.

    Inless in the next few hours he is given a stay of execution the state of Texas will put to death an innocent man.

    Keep in mind I am pro-death penalty, but only if the the guilty are executed.

    This is truely hard for me to write.


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  2. hunter_ofthe_myst_ra

    hunter_ofthe_myst_ra Jedi Knight star 5

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    how do you know he is innocent?
     
  3. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    What if he really is guilty?
     
  4. Darth_Ignant

    Darth_Ignant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I firmly believe that if someone on death row says they're innocent, they're innocent.
     
  5. Jedi_Master_Orion

    Jedi_Master_Orion Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Read his story.

    Their is no way he is gulity.

    The boyfriend of the girl Bobby supposedly killed was going around town the next day saying the he killed the girl and her sister, the sheriff went to the boyfriends house and told him to "shut up, we have some one in custody" and the sheriff admitted to this in court.

    No DNA evidence was alowed int eh case neither.

    Just check out the info in the link, you'll agree with me.
     
  6. Darth Mulacki

    Darth Mulacki Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Wow, an innocent man about to be executed, that has never happened before.
     
  7. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    People on death row will say anything to get out.
     
  8. Qui Gon Moon

    Qui Gon Moon Jedi Master star 5

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    Welcome to Texas.

    You try 'em, we fry 'em.
     
  9. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Wow...this thread is bizarre?
     
  10. Naboo1

    Naboo1 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Turely!
     
  11. FateNaberrie

    FateNaberrie Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    No DNA evidence was alowed int eh case neither.


    I feel strangely compelled to agree with you.
     
  12. Jedi_Master_Orion

    Jedi_Master_Orion Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Read this

    To whom it may concern,
    My name is Bobby Ray Hopkins #999101 and I am currently living on Texas' death row for a crime I did not commit or know anything about.
    I will try as briefly as possible to fill you in on how I wound up in this situation and why I think law enforcement targeted me, some of which is not on record.
    On the early night of July 30th of July 31st of 1993 two young women were found dead in their apartment. Jennifer Weston, 19, and Sandy Marbut, 18. Neither one of the women were raped, but the prosecution did try to base their case on robbery, which there was no proof of forced entry.
    Within an hour of the discovery, local law enforcement agents and (Texas Ranger) George Turner went to my mothers house looking for me. It was later found out at my trial that law enforcement agents had gotten my name from an individual that had gathered in the crowd to see what was going on. That individual was the ex boyfriend of Ms. Weston.
    The murder of these two women happened in the small town of Grandview, Texas; 28 miles south of Fort Worth and 48 miles Southwest of Dallas.
    After my August 4th of 1993 arrest I asked Ranger Turner how did he come across my name ? He said that he was working the crowd and a person told him that a guy named "Bobby" had some troubles with the girls, the person who voluntarily gave them the name Bobby was the ex boyfriend of Ms. Weston, who he had trouble with her breaking their relationship just days before her death. His name is Kelly Tarver.
    In this town of about 2,500 people, there are three other "Bobby's" that had come in contact with both women; all of which my investigator found out.
    One "Bobby" who had just recently moved from the same apartment that the women lived in, he could have most likely still had a key!
    Another "Bobby" who lived right next door to the women in the adjoining apartment when the women were murdered, my investigator found out that from one of the rooms in his apartment, a person could climb up in the ceiling and jump down into the womens apartment. All of this which was testified to, his name is "Bobby Farmer!", his wife was home the night of the murders, in which she said she seen or heard nothing and that Bobby Farmer said he was in another town eight miles away.
    Also "Bobby Crawford" who at the time lived with his mother in the apartments on the next street about 25 yards away.
    When law enforcement agents came to my mothers house looking for a "Bobby", at that time they could not put a last name with the first name. It was found out that the reason law enforcement agents came to me was because I was somewhat well known in Grandveiw by the townspeople and by the chief of police because of the fact that I had worked at its only bank and one of its major gas stations.
    After law enforcement agents go to my mothers house looking for me, my younger sister answered the door. They asked her if Bobby was home? She told them, "No, I think he's across town." The place that I was at is just across the street from my Grandmother's house, which my mother was there at that particular time.
    My mother had come over to where I was saying that she had just recieved a call from my little sister telling her that law enforcement officers had just left the house looking for me. The first thing that came out of my mothers mouth was, "Lets call them and see whats going on," At that same time, (Texas Ranger) George Turner drove by with two other law enforcement agents.
    While standing in my grandmothers front yard talking to my mother, I noticed the unmarked police car that he was driving and I ran to the street and flagged him down. After he had already passed I guess he saw me in his rearview and put his car in reverse. I then went up to the car and said to him, "I heard you was looking for me," (all of this is taking place just minutes after the discovery of the women.) He asked me my name and I told him Bobby Hopkins, without even hesitating he told me to g
     
  13. Naboo1

    Naboo1 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Who cares?
     
  14. Jedi_Master_Orion

    Jedi_Master_Orion Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  15. Naboo1

    Naboo1 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's nice.
     
  16. Saruman_the_Silver

    Saruman_the_Silver Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Lets petition to have him released.
     
  17. MatRags

    MatRags Jedi Padawan star 4

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    People with "Ray" in their name always get a bad reputation... James Earl Ray, Billy Ray Cyrus, Ray Ramano...

    Hope this guy makes it, though.
     
  18. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, if the guy says he's innocent, and there's a website hosted at the "Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty" website saying that he shouldn't be killed, he must be innocent!
     
  19. womberty

    womberty Jedi Master star 4

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    Two Bobby's living next door to each other in those apartments?

    And who takes their jeans to the cleaners?
     
  20. Jedi_Master_Orion

    Jedi_Master_Orion Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well read the evidence.

    If he's guilty then I'v got some shore front property in Pheonix I'll sell you.

    EDIT:eek:h and there is a petition to sign, click the link I gave you in the opening post and look around you'll find it.
     
  21. womberty

    womberty Jedi Master star 4

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    All right, try this:

    What would convince you of a person's guilt in this case? (What evidence would you need to see?)

    What would convince you of a person's innocence?
     
  22. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'd like to see something from an unbiased source. I personally don't trust information from the "Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty" with regards to whether or not someone should be executed. I also don't trust letters that the guy wrote himself.
     
  23. darthlebowski72

    darthlebowski72 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What would convince you of a person's guilt in this case? (What evidence would you need to see?) - DNA

    What would convince you of a person's innocence? - DNA
     
  24. Jedi_Master_Orion

    Jedi_Master_Orion Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What would convince you of a person's innocence?

    Well the non-existent evidence against him and the evidence supporting his innocents.

    What would convince you of a person's guilt in this case?

    DNA evidence, but wait they didn't use it.

    It could prove him guilty or Innocent

    He wants the DNA evidence used.

     
  25. Jansons_Funny_Twin

    Jansons_Funny_Twin Jedi Knight star 6

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    Well, the story is definately touching, but it's only one side of the story, told to us by the man himself and a group who are against the death penalty to begin with. I'd have to see both sides of the argument before I pass judgement on the cops. Speaking of which, 12 people saw both sides of it and decided that he was guilty. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until I see something stronger than his account of events.




    Don't leave me.
    Don't ignore me.
    Don't kill me!

     
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