Anakin/Vaders feelings toward Yoda

First off, going by movies only

I feel in the Prequels, Anakin respects Yoda, and really doesn't have a problem with him. First off, Yoda saved Anakin from being killed against Count Dooku in AOTC. Because if Yoda didn't show up, Anakin and Obi-wan would have been on the wrong side of the blade. Anakin does go to Yoda in ROTS about his conflicting issues, and I don't think he would have confided in anyone else in the Jedi Order about that subject. Yoda doesn't talk down to him like some others, for example like Mace Windu who treats him unrespectful. I think Anakin really and truely respected Yoda, and in some ways, wanted to be like Yoda.

Ok, where I am getting at is maybe this is why Yoda didn't search for and try to kill Vader. I don't think Yoda would have too much of a problem finding Vader, and I believe with all of Yoda's wisdom and power he could get to him and defeat him (especially when Vader just got the suit). This goes both ways too. During all of Vader's searching for the surviving jedi, maybe he did have a idea of where Yoda was and decided to leave him alone.

Anyways, I was thinking this one day and thought I would throw it out there.

 

Believe me, if Vader has the slightest idea of where Yoda is, he's going after him. Yoda is not going to get a free pass. Vader wanted to destroy Kenobi, with whom he was much closer, so there is no reason to believe that Vader has a special place for Yoda in his heart.

As a Jedi, yes, I agree that Anakin respected Yoda. Yoda saved him and Obiwan from Dooku in AotC. Anakin sought out Yoda for guidence in RotS. He respected Yoda certainly. But that respect only went so far. Once he pledged himself to the Sith, Yoda was the enemy.

As for why Yoda didn't go and find Vader, I think it's obvious. Yoda would be a good fight for Vader (with the best chance of defeating him right after RotS) but that's not the whole problem. You come at Vader, your going to get Stormtroopers, thousands of them. Maybe even the Emperor makes a house call if he hears his "little green friend" is back. Yoda going after Vader is a suicide mission. It was much wiser for him to wait for Luke and train him.

 

Ok, where I am getting at is maybe this is why Yoda didn't search for and try to kill Vader.

For a long while, I doubt Yoda knew about Vader. Obi-Wan comes back from Mustafar and tells Yoda Anakin is dead. Yoda then goes and hides in a swamp. Where is he supposed to get the news from, the snakes on Dagobah ??

 

Well, obviously Yoda knows by the time of TESB. I'm going to assume that he would probably have figured it out some time after ROTS. I'm sure Yoda could feel whether Anakin was alive or not by using the Force.

 

Agreed, because Padme thought he was still alive before she died. If she could sense it, i'm sure Yoda knew this too.

 

Yep, better to send Luke on the suicide mission instead

 

By the time of ESB, Yoda was too old, too old to begin the Vader hunting.

Besides, he had no practical means of getting off Dagobah.

 

I think Anakin always did respect Yoda, and that respect never died. I am one that believes both Vader and the Emperor both knew, Yoda and Obi-Wan where out there somewhere, and alive. But they left them alone, didn't try to hunt them down because there wouldn't be much of a point. Those two jedi weren't much of a threat to them, nor the Empire. It's one of those situations where they just all stayed clear of one another. That is until Obi-Wan and Vader face off at the Death Star. Vader tells him "You should NOT have come back." Pretty much saying he's not going to be Mr. Nice Guy and let him slide by. That if Obi-Wan would have just stayed in his hutt on Tattoine, Vader would have left him alone. But now he's come out of hiding, and is getting in the middle of everything, Vader's going to finally finish him off.

 

i always thought that vader figured yoda was dead. When i heard the spoilers that the emperor and yoda battle in episode 3, i figured anakin would know about it. Then i thought of how anakin never mentions yoda's name in the ot, but always comments on obiwan training luke well. This made me think that in episode three, the emperor and vader would talk about yoda's fight with the emperor. I figured the emperor would bring up how he defeated yoda (failed i have, into exile I must go). So I was always waititng for this moment in revenge of the sith, but it never happened.

I think this would have been a cool moment to see for a couple of reasons. It would further the emperor's minipulations and twisting of truths. Yoda did fail, but the emperor would state it in a way the inferreed that he defeated Yoda. This would also make vader respect/fear the emperor more, and would explain why Yoda is never mentioned by the emperor and vader in the ot.

 

I guess Anakin did respect yoda, but maybe even viewed him as competition.

Obi-Wan Kenobi: If you spent as much time practicing your saber techniques as you did your wit, you'd rival Master Yoda as a swordsman.

Anakin Skywalker: I thought I already did.

Then Palpataine is always saying he's such a powerful jedi, and even adds in 'more powerful than master yoda.'

If Vader wasn't going to hunt yoda, yoda wouldn't be all stationed out on Dagohbah where the cave's aura protects him. Darth Vader wants to continue to hunt every jedi or force sensitive being but The Emporer tells him to let them run in Dark Lord.

At the time of the OT, Vader just has too much on his hands then to go hunt an agining near death jedi master. Plus, ever think that he knew Luke was going to go to him after ANH? Maybe Vader wanted to let Luke learn so he'd be a better apprentice and more worthy opponant.

 

I agree, Vader may respect Yoda as a great warrior, but if Sidious tells Vader that Yoda must die, then as far as Vader is concerned Yoda will die.

 

Sure Anakin had respect for Yoda. He also had respect for Mace, as well. But that doesn't mean that he didn't have any problems with or resentment toward the elderly Jedi Master. Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that Yoda had saved Anakin's life in AOTC, but seemed to conveniently forget Yoda's questioning of him in TPM. And Yoda, along with Mace and the rest of the Jedi Council, had originally decided not to allow Anakin into the Jedi Order in TPM. Yoda was also part of the Council's decision regarding Anakin's assignment to spy upon Palpatine in ROTS.

 

Vader would have no problem killing Yoda, were it within his ability. He may have respected Yoda, but he felt Obi-Wan was like his father, and yet he was willing to kill him.

 

Vader's a Sith Lord, guys. Sure he respected Obi-Wan and Yoda for their swordsmanship, but if Sidious assigns him with the task of eliminating him and Obi, you can be sure that Vader would do so. Remember, he respected Mace, yet he still cut off Mace's hand and allowed him to be killed by Sidious when he could have saved him.

I could go on and on about it, but the short side of it is: If Yoda put even a toe into the Death Star, Vader would be running at him swinging his lightsaber. Remember his assignment to wipe out ALL the Jedi??

 

I didn't think Anakin respected Mace all that much. It was a more of a he's the leader, so I have to follow him kinda deal.He goes to Mace to tell him about Sidious because Obi Wan and Yoda are both off planet. Mace constantly shuts him down and thats something obviously Anakin doesn't like. He even doesn't want Anakin trained in TPM.

I'm sure in a way Anakin did enjoy helping in the death of Windu. He had second thoughts about betraying the order, not exactly mace himself.

 

I had it figured way back when TPM came out that Ani would be the one responsible for wiping out Mace. There was real tension built between these two characters and it kept building throughout the whole prequel trilogy until Mace got it.

Yoda had to remain in hiding. His days as a warrior were behind him and he knew this. His power lay in his ability to train Luke.

Mr. K

 

Just to echo the previous statements: Vader would have no problem going after Yoda if he had too!
How a duel like that would end up is a different matter however.

 

Vader is going to take Yoda to school.

 

But really though? Sure he's more powerful and has perfected his technique in the suit; but I think that Yoda would hold his own pretty well, even though he's near death.

 

Agreed, Anakin never liked Mace. And as for respect goes, well, I don't think he respected him either. He may have done what Mace told him to do time to time, but that isn't respect, it is because he had to from the Jedi Order stand point.

And I also agree that he isn't broken up that he sliced Mace up. When Anakin said, "What have I done", I don't think he is meaning I can't believe I just sliced Mace. I take it as, I can't believe I am turning on the Jedi....

 

Agreed. Palpatine was quite lucky that Mace was the last Jedi standing when Anakin came in. Mace was probably his least favorite Master on the Jedi Council. I would have loved for Anakin to run in and see Obiwan and Palpatine going at it. That would be priceless. I think the scale would be strongly tipped onto the side of the Jedi.

 

I have a feeling that Obi-wan would be Sidious's plaything the same way he was Dooku's, but the thing is if Sidious were to harm Obi-wan in any way, Anakin would DEFINITELY kill him. He's more than strong enough and he sees Obi-wan as a father figure.

 

You're right! If Anakin had walked in on Obi Wan fighting the Emperor the situation definitely would have turned out different.
Although, I don't think Sidious would have planned to have OBW and Anakin show up to arrest him, because of that very point!

 

Even if Obi wan was the one being fried infront of Vader, he still would've turned. It's not like while he watched him zap mace he just kinda let it go; there was still that conflict of what he needed to do.

His first priority was to save padme.
Even if Obi Wan was being killed infront of him by sidious, he'd unleash his anger but remember padme. I mean, Anakins trying to kill him by the end of the movie anyway.

 

But even Palpatine doubted that Anakin would turn if Obiwan were around. That's why he order Tyranus to kill him on the Invisble Hand, and orchastrated Obiwan's assignment to hunt Grevious. Obiwan brought the best out in Anakin.