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Are Clonetroopers Sterilised?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by LottDodd, Aug 23, 2004.

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  1. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    Not in the Anti Bacterial Sense... More the Chemical Castration issue...

    Is a Clonetrooper Fertile? Could he sire a child naturally with a human female? Have such impulses been bred out of them?
     
  2. Ariadne

    Ariadne Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Never really thought about it, but I think it would make sense for them to be sterilised. That way they're completely committed to war - no kids, wives or girlfriends to worry about.

    It would give the Republic/Empire greater control over them, IMO. Don't want them breeding indiscriminately and all that...

    EU-wise, I seem to recall a group of cloned stormies that had settled down and raised families, but that's the EU...

     
  3. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    At first, I didn't see the point of this. But if you eliminated sexual impulses, it would probably decrease war crimes. No raping of the opposing forces women, and all of that. They may actually have done it, for this reason alone. . .
     
  4. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In the EU book The Cestus Deception one of the main female characters who had a past relationship with Jango has a relationship with the clone named Jangotat and is carrying his child at the end of the book.
     
  5. JediMasterGuff

    JediMasterGuff Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Nate/Jangotat is one of my favourite characters, he brought so much more character into Clone Troopers.
     
  6. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    One Million Plus Genetically Identical Potential Fathers Roaming the Galaxy is Going to make Paternity Testing Difficult...
     
  7. Darth-Kevin-Thomas

    Darth-Kevin-Thomas Jedi Master star 5

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    Next on Maury, this young diplomate slept with a military man but she doesn't know which of the 100,000 brothers it was.

    I would think they would be "fully functional" but reproducing is not what they are "made" for. They wouldn't want to i think.
     
  8. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I would assume the 'fully functional' is given, but I would wonder about genetic problems in the offspring.
     
  9. Kettch_the_Jedi

    Kettch_the_Jedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    One Million Plus Genetically Identical Potential Fathers Roaming the Galaxy is Going to make Paternity Testing Difficult...

    lol! :) lol still!
     
  10. GRAND_MOFF_KEVIN

    GRAND_MOFF_KEVIN Jedi Master star 5

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    "In the EU book The Cestus Deception one of the main female characters who had a past relationship with Jango has a relationship with the clone named Jangotat and is carrying his child at the end of the book."

    Yes, Sheeka Tull's I believe. I think the only clone that is as good as Nate/Jangotat is Alpha.
     
  11. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    Someone asked this at the OS a while back, and the answer was YES. So I'm assuming the answer still is YES
     
  12. Vindaxxus

    Vindaxxus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes sterilised or yes they can have kids.
     
  13. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    Yes they can have kids.


    Someone mentioned clones in EU haveing families, but that was post ROTJ, and they were cloned with sparti cilenders, so they could be different.
     
  14. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    Is the Growth Accelleration part of their Gentic Make up... or as a resault of an acceleration process after gestation.

    Ie; If A Clonetrooper sired a child, would it be subject to rapid aging?
     
  15. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I am guessing here, but since Boba was pure genetic replication with no growth acceleration or 'obedience treatment', I would assume those processes come after the gestation process.
     
  16. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Castration (chemical or otherwise) results in a loss of agressive behavior in all Earth species, Humans included.
    A sterilized trooper would be pretty pathetic.

     
  17. Emos-Edud

    Emos-Edud Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If the troopers aren't sterilized then the GFFA would have a huge problem with accidental incest. Half the population would have the same father. Granted, the off-spring of two children of troopers might not have any genetic defects if Jango's DNA was cleaned up and so there might not be any physical mutation down the line.
     
  18. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Half the population would have the same father.

    A million troops hardly comes close to "half the population".

     
  19. Emos-Edud

    Emos-Edud Jedi Padawan star 4

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    [Corky]Oh, really? I did not know that.[/Corky]

    Ever hear of an exaggeration? Still around bases it would most certainly be nearly half the population.

    Even if you can't comprehend the use of hyperbole, you still have to admit that a million of the same person having kids in any population increases the odds of accidental incest in comparison to our world.

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    I'm sure that there are forms of castration that would not harm the ability to fight aggressively. It could be done with chemicals or implants that kill the sperm as it travels through the vas deferens and not while it is produced in the testes.
     
  20. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hmmmm,
    Accidental incest. Seems to be a theme in the Star Wars movies. :D
     
  21. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ever hear of an exaggeration? Still around bases it would most certainly be nearly half the population.


    Why are you exagerating?
    And I suppose it would depend on what you mean by "around". Within 50 feet? Then, yeah, sure. Or within the same city? A million man army base in NY city isn't going to be 1/2 the population.


    Even if you can't comprehend the use of hyperbole, you still have to admit that a million of the same person having kids in any population increases the odds of accidental incest in comparison to our world.

    First off, don't insult me. Second, I don't have to admit to anything in your statement.
    If you have a family of 10, (say you and a sibling, two parents each with a sibling, and four grandparents) then on Earth you have a 1 in 600 million chance of "Accidential Incest" as you put it.
    In order to maintain this ratio, the GFFA only needs 60 trillion people, or 10,000 planets like Earth. That's quite a bit less than the 12 million quoted in the EU, or the one million quoted by Tarkin. It also doesn't count any city-planets like Coruscant and the vastly higher populations they would hold.

     
  22. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    I have to take issue with what you said, D6S15.

    While cruder methods of castration will cause a decline in agressive behavior, you can sterilize people without having these effects. That is, what you're talking about is removing the reproductive organs altogether, which would also cause problems with testosterone production. However, one can be sterilized by radiation just as easily. Alternatively, you could snip the vas difrens (spelling?) so that the person essentially "fires blanks."

    In any case, point being, you could sterilize them without making them into the classical eunuchs. I mean, at least that was the impression I'd had.
     
  23. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Dude, I don't even think GL put this into consideration when he wrote the story, however...

    For whats it worth, castration is not necessary. There are higher brain centers which cause sexual excitement. Remove that part of the brain and a clone will have no desire to have sex or produce offspring, while still keeping his aggression and testosterone levels intact.

    Another possibilty is that Jango may have a genetic defect that causes impotency, which made him the "perfect" host for an army clones. Also it may be the reason why Jango had a cloned son rather than a normal child. I'd imagine he could have easily found a twi'lek whore or a human whore (whatever) to satisfy his desires to grant him a son of his own.
     
  24. Vader_vs_Maul

    Vader_vs_Maul Jedi Master star 3

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    Yes, but I don't think he has the patience to drag the prostitute with him everywhere for 9 months. She would drive him crazy, I think. :p Cloning is an easier solution.
     
  25. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    Jango Wanted a Son But Wouldn't... Or Couldn't have one the Old Fashioned way...

    "Curious is it Not?"
     
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