Saga Are Jedi allowed to have sex?

We know attachment and possession is forbidden but if two Jedi lust for each other and have no strings sex together, is that permissible? Some of the Jedi attire is very sexually expressive and they don't seem to have a puritan attitude towards dress code. The Jedi robe is meant to symbolize humility and connection with the simple and poor, not chastity.

Also is it allowed for Jedi to have children as long as they aren't attached to them and give them to the order to be trained?

With that said, are force strong babies taken in for Jedi training allowed to keep their names? Is Kenobi Obi Wan's birth family name? If so, dosen't that make it harder to forgo attachment to family?

 

I don't believe so, because sex could lead to children.

 

Came here to post this. Lucas said yes, they are allowed, but I've only heard of one SW writer actually using that (one of Obi-Wan's love interests IIRC). SW as an all-ages product is generally subject to American squeamishness and therefore tends to shy away from saying anything outright, ultimately leaving it vague enough that a lot of people do assume sex is forbidden in the Order because of our own cultural baggage. (Off the top of my head, the Ahsoka novel only implies it's not encouraged. And, indeed, a Jedi should be focusing on their job first and foremost. You don't get to rush important diplomatic negotiations because your mind's on meeting someone back at the Temple for "meditation and chill." That kind of thing has to be a low priority.)

It's not hard to figure what kind of arrangements Jedi would be likely to have with certain other Jedi in their lives, if we look at their culture/worldviews and how they conduct themselves in platonic relationships, and at the specific things we see Anakin mess up. Jealousy is forbidden, thinking about the other person/s all day when your mind is supposed to be on your duty is forbidden (especially considering everyone in the Order is an empath and would probably rather not sense your steamy fantasies), grasping at the other person when they're leaving your life and lashing out to keep them is forbidden. Harming the greater good so you can keep a single person that makes you happy is extremely forbidden. You are not devoted to this person, they do not belong to you nor you to them, they are simply in your life for a little while until one day - for one reason or another - they're not, and you have to be completely okay with that.

Jedi culture is obsessed with matters of ethics and respect, so that probably also applies here; just because two characters aren't getting married doesn't mean they have license to act like jerks to each other, despite the "hilarious" suggestions people like to make in Jedi celibacy threads. (This also makes it very unlikely that sleeping with people outside the Order is ever considered a good idea. And prostitution is an even more serious ethical minefield, though someone always suggests it.)

I've seen it suggested that there might be spiritual rituals/practices related to sexuality, whether meditative or otherwise, and I find that believable. Would probably depend on the people involved.

A Jedi who had a child (though I find it hard to believe they wouldn't be on whatever sci-fi birth control is suitable for their species unless they specifically opted not to, like Ki-Adi-Mundi in Legends) would probably be expected to give it up for adoption (whether by the Order, their relatives/friends, or an adoption agency) or leave the Order to go devote themselves to being a parent instead. Even in the case of the Legends story for Ki-Adi, the kids lived with his wives in a household on his home planet and I got the impression he didn't get to see much of them, and that it was something of a strained situation that only came about because the species had population troubles.

EDIT: Looking back this is a bit rambly, but I'm too tired to organize my thoughts on world/culture-building better, so whatever.

 

Pretty sure Kit Fisto and Ayala Secura did in the EU

 

As far as a I know the Jedi were not forbidden from having sex, although considering that the Order's members were not supposed to form emotional attachments, and as sex and romance are often depicted as being linked, I would imagine it was discouraged.

 

Officially yes
They could not have sex or form romantic relationships

But some Jedi had secret lovers but most of these loves ended abruptly

 

Ha! I'd rather not think about it... Toilets, food, sex etc etc in the GFFA

 

I felt like Mace Windu came from a long line of Jedi Masters.

 

I suppose there needs to be a responsibility in terms of passing on Force potential. If a Jedi were to have a girl/guy in every port there could be powerful young Force adepts popping up everywhere. Basically they shouldn't go around spreading their midichlorians all over the galaxy.

 

Suddenly, I'm reminded of "Hot Shots, Part Deux", where Topper offers this comment about the religious order he's joined:

"These men have taken a supreme vow of celibacy, like their fathers, and their fathers before them."

 

As a curiosity only Ki-Adi-Mundi was the exception in that rule
He had 5 wifes and 7 children in Legends but he was only allowed because on his planet the males were very few

 

Maybe some answers can be found in MOD EDIT all time classic thread.

We are not bringing that thread up again.

 

The jedi were forbidden from sex i think because anakin was not suppose to be with padamae. I don't think this made matters any better when anakin feel in love with padamae though. This relationship being forbidden even kind of helped palpatine manipulate anakin. If his relationship wasn't forbidden he would have probably made the jedi council. Palpatine would not of had leverage over him and perhaps anakin would not have become sith.

 

George Lucas said in a 2002 interview, that the Jedi were not celibate. They just couldn't form families.

 

As long as they don't inhale.

 

Standard Jedi issue contraception then?

That doesn't sound like a very good policy though. The Saga shows that Force potential gets passed down. Anakin>Luke/Leia>Ben Solo etc. Plucking out so many kids who are strong with the Force & then preventing them from breeding sounds very counterproductive.

 

That, and the paperwork involved is just awful. Official request forms, background checks, medical exams, psych evaluations, supply vouchers, expense vouchers, after-incident reports, post-incident interviews, follow-up investigations, and everything in triplicate, signed in black ink and notarized.

 

Maybe the Jedi order or the Republic retain a contingent of "comfort" girls/boys/whatever like the IJA did in South East Asia. Hopefully they do this of their own free will.

Or maybe it's simply the case that sex work is totally legitimate in GFFA. And the Jedi have an expense account.

But I think it's all academic if you consider this statement about the Jedi way from Lucas in 2011. You can find it on the complete saga disc 8. Chapter 12.

"When you get selfish is when you get stuff and you want stuff. Whether it's a person or a thing or a particular pleasure, or experience....the pleasure factor of greed is a short lived experience so you want to replenish it.... The only way to overcome the dark side is through discipline. Pleasure, biological, is temporary and easy to achieve...Must overcome laziness, give up quick pleasures and overcome fear.."

So sex, a temporary biological pleasure unless it is for procreation, is definitely out of the question.

 

I think it is more simple that in a situation where a Jedi has found themselves attracted to someone, they engage in a physical relationship and then move on. Obi-wan may have believed that to be the case between Anakin and Padme, but started to wonder if it was more than that and then found out for sure after he had turned.

One assumes that precautions are taken for those who wish to engage in intercourse. Samuel Jackson said that he believed that his character was probably chaste. Most Jedi probably were, but on occasions, they tended to be fruitful. If you really think about it, Qui-gon asking about who Anakin's father was seems to lean in that direction. That he figured that a Jedi was responsible, but then is surprised that isn't the case.

 

Lucas states categorically that temporary biological pleasures should not be sought. Through discipline these things are to be avoided and with them, the selfishness that is the darkside.

 

Just because they should not be sought out, doesn't mean that a Jedi won't give into temptation if something happens. For instance, Obi-wan had fallen in love with Satine, but he held firm and did not leave the Jedi Order, though he admitted he would have if she had asked him to. What isn't clear is if they did or did not engage in intercourse at any point. In Anakin's case, Obi-wan suspected it and over time saw and felt certain emotions that indicated a relationship becoming more than just physical. That's why he warned Anakin of his hostile feelings towards Rush Clovis and later told Padme that he had figured it out, but he was going to keep quiet about it.

 

Who said the Jedi encourage/seek sexual pleasures?