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Are Jedi Masters and their Padawans always the same gender?

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction and Writing Resource' started by Wilhelmina, Aug 1, 2002.

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  1. Wilhelmina

    Wilhelmina Jedi Master star 3

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    In all of the fics I've read, the Master-Padawan duos have been two males or two females. Does anyone know if there is backup for this in canon, or if it's just common practice? Does anyone know of any exceptions?

    Thanks in advance,

    Mina
     
  2. Jedi_Anakin_Solo

    Jedi_Anakin_Solo Jedi Knight star 5

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    It isn't a rule for Master/Apprentices to be the same gender. One exception that comes to mind is Darsha Assant (female Padawan) and Anoon Bondara (male Master) in Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter.
     
  3. Aunecah_Skywalker

    Aunecah_Skywalker Jedi Knight star 5

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    No, it isn't a rule. But it generally tends to be that way--two males or two females.
    I think this is because men's perspectives are different from women's (in general), and maybe the masters just want to have apprentices who think along the same lines as them. ::Shrugs::

    There are only a few exception, and the Shadow Hunter one--just about the only one that comes to my mind--is already mentioned.

    Aunecah_Skywalker
     
  4. JediGaladriel

    JediGaladriel Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, in the movies, that's all we see, but then all we see are Palpy and his apprentices, and the Yoda->Dooku->Qui-Gon->Obi-Wan->Anakin string.

    But the Jedi Quest books have Siri Tachi with a boy for an apprentice. An annoying boy, but a boy. So if you count the books, there's an example.
     
  5. Uuta_Shetai

    Uuta_Shetai Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I guess it just seems a little easier when they're "in the field" (aka roughing it).
     
  6. JediGaladriel

    JediGaladriel Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah. It also may just be easier in terms of the time of life that the Master is raising the Padawan. It wouldn't be a rule, but a lot of masters might not be eager to try and talk an opposite gender apprentice through puberty.
     
  7. Annbri

    Annbri Jedi Youngling star 1

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    A very good point, especially for a male master/female padawan
     
  8. Uuta_Shetai

    Uuta_Shetai Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Oh, gosh. *shudders incredibly heavily*
     
  9. Wilhelmina

    Wilhelmina Jedi Master star 3

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    Thanks much to everybody who replied!

    Mina
     
  10. Scruff

    Scruff Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't read the comics, but didn't Aayla Secura have a male master?
     
  11. Alderaan_

    Alderaan_ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yes, in fact she had two!
     
  12. Jedi_Wurth_Skidder

    Jedi_Wurth_Skidder Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Quinlan Vos is a bad, bad, bad man.
     
  13. Rani Veko

    Rani Veko Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Not that I've ever read the JA series, but I've heard from a few sources that Qui-Gon's first padawan was a girl.

    I don't think there's any reason why opposite gender pairings of masters and apprentices would be forbidden by the Jedi Order. Single parents of children of the opposite gender raise them through puberty just fine, often with little more outside assistance than advice from other parents or family members.

    - Rani
     
  14. imzadi

    imzadi Jedi Master star 4

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    I write a male Master with a female Padawan. I thought it would be an interesting chalange.
     
  15. Aunecah_Skywalker

    Aunecah_Skywalker Jedi Knight star 5

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    I haven't posted it at the JCF yet, but one of my stories also has a male master and a female apprentice :D.

    Aunecah_Skywalker
     
  16. Sebulba2179

    Sebulba2179 Jedi Master star 4

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    So far, nobody has a problem with Jacen having a female Padawan in my fics (though that may have more to do with the fact that I have precisely two regular readers). It probably doesn't work this way in canon, but I decided to do it because it was Jacen who discovered her potential to be a Jedi.
     
  17. Aunecah_Skywalker

    Aunecah_Skywalker Jedi Knight star 5

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    Personally, I think a male Master and a female Padawan (or vice versa) or much more interesting in a story than a Master and a Padawan of the same gender.

    Aunecah_Skywalker
     
  18. Wilhelmina

    Wilhelmina Jedi Master star 3

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    Well, now that I know it's not taboo, guess I'll be adding my male Master/female Padawan to the mix before long.

    Actually, when this story takes place, she's already completed her apprenticeship and is a Knight (which led to a whole new set of questions, including how she'd be addressed -- see here if you can help me out on that one. :)

    Thanks,
    Mina
     
  19. HaiGan

    HaiGan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've always tended to think that any innate differences (in outlook, potential, capabilities or whatever) are likely to be far greater between species than between genders, and this is a multi-species settting. If Jedi tend to go with the same gender for Master/Padawan pairings, that would strongly imply that they also go with the same species.

    Myself, I think that for such a long term and important pairing the Jedi would be more concerned with whether the two individuals were right for one another as personalities, with complimentary strengths and weaknesses. They would want a Master who could guide the Padawan appropriately in his/her/other(!) development. Species and gender may part of that mix, but not by any means all of it or even a large proportion of it. Hence I see no reason not to have mixed pairings of all kinds.
     
  20. SpeldoriontheBlended

    SpeldoriontheBlended Jedi Padawan star 4

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    what about mara?
     
  21. AERYN_SUN

    AERYN_SUN Jedi Knight star 5

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    the one reason that comes to mind why we don't see female/male master/padawan relationship in the movies is because of ahem, sexual tension. think about it. it would make for an interesting fic, a lot of conflict and issues...

    plus, there's the whole jedi code deal where attatchment is forbidden.

    (that and all the sw movies are rated pg. they're not aimed at an adult audience - though most of us are adults). the prequels, it was thought after ep. i was more geared towards kids. and not for the adult fans.

     
  22. SilentSith

    SilentSith Jedi Master star 1

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    Mace Windu trained a female apprentice, Depa Billaba. If you go here and here you'll see what I'm talking about.

    (<SilentSith
     
  23. JediKnight-Obi-Wan

    JediKnight-Obi-Wan Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    AERYN_SUN actually I've been writing a fic that deals with all that for some time.

    It can be a challenge but I think it's fun and I'm sorta ignoring George's how attatchment is forbidden thing as I don't agree with it. Obi-Wanw as OBVIOUSLY attached to Qui-Gon at the end of TPM. Anyway, I guess my story is AU in that aspect.


     
  24. Alderaan_

    Alderaan_ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Just wondering... is there no canon example of a female Master with a male Padawan?

    EDIT: Never mind. Yaddle trained Oppo Rancisis
     
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